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![]() Maruti has made airbags mandatory and that surely is praiseworthy - but I'll trust their safety standards once a car passes the tests. They've clearly been selling different grade stuff for the Indian market and they are clearly behind the bullying to lower the 64kmph testing criteria for India, but the recent developments have been very encouraging. Forget Nexa, even the DZire was launched with safety kit standard. But only BNVSAP will throw a clearer picture. Quote:
Between a stronger, heavier car and a lighter one with better tested crash ratings - I'll anyday prefer the latter. For example - If i were to buy new now, its the Etios over Punto now. Between two cars with equal crash ratings - its the stronger, heavier one for me anyday - just because it feels good. So Etios will get ditched for the Polo. ![]() | ||||
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| ![]() Since Punto and Swift are being compared it is also worth noting the "standard" equipment difference. The "standard" variant of the swift had more airbags and rear belt pretension and load limiters. Punto : ![]() Swift: ![]() If we were to make this relevant to the Indian market I would prefer the India Punto over the Indian Swift from a safety standpoint. The argument of lighter cars not being safe goes out of the window when one looks at how the Etios Liva performed in the Global NCAP. Last edited by rajathv8 : 14th December 2017 at 13:01. |
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| ![]() The Punto has actually performed well for a 2005 design. I'm sure the rating of the other Indian budget cars will be much worse barring a few. The Indian cars even struggle to keep their body shell intact (Swift, Zest, Aspire, Scorpio etc.) let alone scoring well. With some more airbags, it would have performed better. Almost every single budget Indian car will perform terribly in a side impact due to the absence of side airbags anyway. That said, FIAT should at least make airbags and ABS standard on the Punto and Linea if they are in no mood to pull them out of the market. I also wonder if the position of the neck restraints will have any impact on the whiplash protection score. PS I see that the car tested has the dash from Punto Evo as opposed to the old dash on the 2005 test. Could that have had any impact? Wasn't there a report that Maruti improved the structure of the Baleno at the time of launch of the RS to ensure that the structure passes BNVSAP tests? Last edited by theredliner : 14th December 2017 at 13:49. |
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I am not doubing you or your birdies at all, but knowing Maruti and their attitude towards safety, there is no way they would make an Indian car safer than a European one (they don't even offer a middle seatbelt or neck restraint). If an Indian car needed to be strengthened to pass BNVSAP, how can it be as safe as/safer than a Euro model knowing how much diluted our test is compared to GNCAP, let alone Euro NCAP. Last edited by theredliner : 14th December 2017 at 14:02. | ||
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() Now, this is one heck of a debatable topic. Fiat Punto rated 0 stars in NCAP ratings, the same organization that rated the same car 5stars in the year it was launched, which was a decade ago. So, in 2017 the criterias for judging safety of a car is changed, focus shifted to pedestrians, side impacts, roll overs, crumple zones redefined as per regulations.Designers are focused on cabin intactness on an event of crash than aesthetics of the car. All these changed, the only thing that has remained is the Car, which has been on sale for more than a decade. I dont see why eyebrows are raised when it scores "ZERO" ratings in modern Crash test. Pitch in any car from any manufacturer from that era and you are going to see a dismal performance than its current generation avatar.(ok no freaking out.Our Amby would still survive the ordeal ![]() I think, instead of pointing out any car manufacturer here, we must appreciate the NCAP organization for moulding their rules prompting manufacturers to give us products that are safe. They have made OEMs think safer, mould manufacturing processes, to make cars on road safer. I also think manufacturers have started standardizing their products on these parameters than it was say 5 years ago, when safety features were mere attractions. Be it Swift or Punto, either both are safe or both are unsafe based on what rules are evaluating them. Its the generation gap. Cars have come a long way from being just mobility solutions. |
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| ![]() Everything said and done, I would still give it to Fiat because 5 years back their Punto/Linea was safer than her competition (read: stable structure and comparatively better results of crash dummies) and inclusion of crash bars behind the front bumper (I see a thick bar of some material in my brother's Linea) and there are people still using those cars. Their safety features in todays offerings are not enough because they sell the same old structure in new clothes, the only solution is to phase out the old cars and bring the Aegea lineup in India. I wish they could do Ciaz, City, Linea, Vento crash tests back to back ! |
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While majority manufacturers have updated/updating cars to meet current safety norm's, Fiat seem to be quite happy to sell a decade old car with no plans to replace. | |
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![]() Comparing the indian swift with indian punto with same airbags (2) no safety assists etc i would love to see the results. Earlier swift had unstable structure. | |
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