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Originally Posted by SS-Traveller
(Post 5897259)
My worst headache (literally) are those extremely bright white aftermarket LED headlights that people use on high beam. They seem to be getting brighter day-by-day, even as the drivers seem to be completely unaware of the trouble they are causing to others...
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Related nightmare, idiots installing super-bright fog lamps to compensate for lousy headlamps (a seemingly solid majority of cars nowadays)!
They love pretending being 'responsible',
'Oh, it's mounted low so it doesn't blind oncoming traffic'.
Yeah, that's not how illumination works mister. You need proper reflector hardware and beam pattern adjustment. Should've paid attention in physics class.:Frustrati
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Originally Posted by SS-Traveller
(Post 5897259)
My worst headache (literally) are those extremely bright white aftermarket LED headlights that people use on high beam.
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Yes, they are awful and very dangerous.
Actually, I am tempted to "upgrade" my lights, but I am out off by high-priced LED plug-in replacements, low life and...
the wish never to be the person in your video!
By the way, my dad's recommendation on dealing with undipped headlights was to avoid the temptation to look into them (it's magnetic!) by looking down at the left hand kerb. But hey, he was talking about people on the opposite side of the road and it was the 1960s, with the technology of that time. I don't think it helps when we have a head-on situation with LEDs.
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Originally Posted by Chetan_Rao
(Post 5897594)
Related nightmare, idiots installing super-bright fog
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Even here on Team-BHP, where drivers
should be better informed, there is a
lot of misunderstanding about fog lights.
They are absolutely
not supposed to be super-bright and they are absolutely not supposed to "pierce" the fog (it doesn't work, that just lights up the water particles). They are supposed to light the road immediately ahead, and show the kerb and/or white lines, so one can drive safe at minimal speeds, as one should be doing in fog. They are also great pot-hole, dog, etc, lighters for slow-speed city streets. The only thing that should get fog lights in the eyes is, maybe... a dog!
Another menace on the roads: commercial vehicles with excessively tall loads, that makes them extremely prone to toppling over.
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Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom
(Post 5897778)
Even here on Team-BHP, where drivers should be better informed, there is a lot of misunderstanding about fog lights.
They are absolutely not supposed to be super-bright and they are absolutely not supposed to "pierce" the fog (it doesn't work, that just lights up the water particles). They are supposed to light the road immediately ahead, and show the kerb and/or white lines, so one can drive safe at minimal speeds, as one should be doing in fog. They are also great pot-hole, dog, etc, lighters for slow-speed city streets. The only thing that should get fog lights in the eyes is, maybe... a dog!
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On my old Vento, the headlights had become pathetic and changed to OEM again with OEM bulbs. Its fine for City. I use high beam on divided highways and dip the high beam on two way streets with opposite traffic. I was asked to change to 100W or LED bulbs and didn't see the need. Vento has one of the worse headlights, but being the only manual and TDI among my cars, I like driving it. :)
Wish the govt had some regulation on the light temp for OEM and after markets.
This issue has been bothering me and my eyes a lot while returning from office. The after-market LEDs are pure menace. I see the cabbies use these a lot and they are almost always on high-beam. And the next group is the white Fortuner/Innova types. Not only is it blinding but also does give a headache. These days the two-wheelers are also not behind. Many get company fitted LEDs like the new Activa and they are all-over, lighting up the already over lit roads. On high-beam off-course.
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Originally Posted by SS-Traveller
(Post 5897259)
Here's one encounter, which left me almost blind, while the other car prepared to do battle with me for blocking his way. Watch the video and listen to the conversation at the end, where it is obvious that he was unaware that he was blinding me. https://youtu.be/0Vhz8VguEoo?si=IQqQLiQ8xGqSdgg1
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Partly to blame are also auto journos and youtubers who repeatedly instigate the general public and their Gen Z/Y audience, ridiculing poor intensity and throw of stock headlights of most cars they review and in turn recommending LED "upgrade" as soon as the car is out of showroom.
The stock headlights have limited intensity and throw for a reason, so as to comply with legal limits.
The only upgrade I am favorable of is when the stock headlights are genuinely weak, and there are upgrade options available which are within the prescribed OEM and legal limits.
I come across morons with high beam on a 2-way city road. It's so annoying that I switch my high beams onto them until I pass them, in the hope that they realise how blinding it could be. Not sure how else to get over such idiots.
The GoI has mandated the use of multiple safety related features in the past such as reverse parking sensors, two airbags, always-on lights for two wheelers, etc.
I think it's time that we mandated high beam assist for all cars because a majority of our road users will forever be ignorant morons and no law or penalty can ever change that.
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Originally Posted by SS-Traveller
(Post 5897259)
My worst headache (literally) are those extremely bright white aftermarket LED headlights that people use on high beam. They seem to be getting brighter day-by-day, even as the drivers seem to be completely unaware of the trouble they are causing to others.
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In fact, now a days, even while driving within city with illuminated street lights, you have headlights focused right at your eyes.
To add to the problem, for people driving sedans, your seating position is roughly in line with the headlight position of all these new SUVs (Thars, Fortuners, Endeavours), so even with the low beams, they're getting pointed right at you.
My experience, the bright white lights are more troublesome & blinding than the yellow ones, don't know why.
Ironically, we as a society are moving towards warm colour lights in our houses/offices/indoors and moving towards cool colour lights on our vehicles !!
I personally know people who think the high beam indicator on the instrument cluster means it's an indicator for the lights being switched on.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SS-Traveller
(Post 5897259)
My worst headache (literally) are those extremely bright white aftermarket LED headlights that people use on high beam. They seem to be getting brighter day-by-day, even as the drivers seem to be completely unaware of the trouble they are causing to others.
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This has become a menace of late. People install these super bright led lights and then drive them on high beam. Even on well lit city roads these people will cotinue driving with high beam of these bright led lights. Many of the car drivers on road dont even know the difference between low beam and high beam.:Frustrati
Very recently I see a trend of fitting an extra pair of lamps in between the headlamps. Of course, they are super-powerful spot lights. If there is a valid use for this, it would be rally or off-road. Not for any sort of actual road, let alone a city road.
In history, it has been done before, but never with the strength of light available to these idiots.
The problem is lack of empathy. People have this attitude of "As long as I am fine, I don't care about the rest of the people on the road"
This has become an arms race and people are spending lakhs on lighting upgrade just to ensure they have daylight like brightness in front of them. woe be onto those who oppose them!!
Even I am tempted to install something to counter the blinding lights from oncoming vehicles. Just that modern vehicles have very few options left to install lights without major "surgery" on grill/ bumper.
Maybe it is my eyes failing but the super bright OEM headlamps do not translate into sufficient lighting on the road. Maybe yellow light is the way to go.
Most members seem to blame these "after market" contraptions (esp. LED lights) only.
Why aren't we harping on the menaces provided BY DEFAULT, by OEMs themselves?
Stock headlights(eg.: Activa/many other 2wheelers), horns(eg.: Splendor) aren't any better; they too successfully irritate other road users quite well/equal to after-market fitments:Frustrati
High time govt brings up some standards to these to make it tolerable to other road users unfortunate enough to share space with these vehicles.
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