[Fenomenon]

reign. i got it part financed from ICICI. 10.5% for a 4 year loan.

[skmanjunath]

Originally Posted by GTO

The Cedia is a fantastic machine; very well-engineered, great to drive and good potential for mods. However, the appalingly low resale value is something you might want to consider.

I would also recommend a test drive of the Fiesta 1.6, Optra 1.6 and NHC Vtec before you make your choice.

My 2 cents
Every body talks of poor resale value for a mitsubishi But history says otherwise.
I had a 2001 lancer Slxi. I brought it over Honda 1.5 Exi.
Most people at that time including auto Journals said Lancer will have lower resale value.
I sold my lancer a week back and I was seeing the prices of Honda 1.5 Exi and Vtec of 2001 and 2002 in the market for comparrision.
They are same and some times lower.
Just compare the price of Honda Civic 13.87 to Cedia 10 lacs OTR.
Difference Great looks, auto a/c, and auto retract mirrior with indicator.
Once the fancy of the launch wears off(like Honda Civic launched in Aug 2006 ) The resale value which is percived now will not hold good 3 to 5 years down the line when you actualy sell it.
WILL HONDA CIVIC GET 3.87 LACS MORE THAN CEDIA ??
The life time of parts are very important.
Mitshubishi cars are built on Rally platform and are built better and stronger
In case of Honda 1.3 AND 1.5 eXI clutch has been replaced between 10 k in worst to 30 k Lancer clutch lasts 60 k in worst case and 90 k in normal.
Rear brake pads are guarantted for 150 k as per service advisor of Lancer dealer.
So wear part costs are to be compared to their life cycle.

[mclaren1885]

Originally Posted by skmanjunath

My 2 cents

I sold my lancer a week back and I was seeing the prices of Honda 1.5 Exi and Vtec of 2001 and 2002 in the market for comparrision.
They are same and some times lower.

So what did your lancer sell at? And kindly do look around. I don't think there are any 1.5s available for under 3.5L and Vtecs under 4.5L atleast in bangalore.

Mitshubishi cars are built on Rally platform and are built better and stronger

Thats a complete hogwash. Look at the engines Mitsu India provides you with. Noting rally about it.

In case of Honda 1.3 AND 1.5 eXI clutch has been replaced between 10 k in worst to 30 k Lancer clutch lasts 60 k in worst case and 90 k in normal. Rear brake pads are guarantted for 150 k as per service advisor of Lancer dealer. So wear part costs are to be compared to their life cycle.

Well it depends on usage and how an owner treats his car. I have seen Honda's clutch last for as long as 80,000kms. Longetivity of parts depends on usage not just by brand.

It would be really helpful if you could space your sentences better, its quite hard to read like this.

[Vid6639]

LOL!! Iraghava's Vtec clutch lasted for 1.3Lac kms. My lancer's lasted for 60K kms.

I'm not sure about the resale value but I'm sure I wont get more than 3.5L for mine being a 2000 model SFXi. That's probably a good 1L lesser than the OHC VTec which costed the same as my lancer way back in 2000.

[esteem_lover]

AFAIK, there was no Vtec in 2000, started in 2001 onwards. And 3.5L for a 2000 Lancer is a terrific price for the seller.

[reignofchaos]

Originally Posted by mclaren1885

Thats a complete hogwash. Look at the engines Mitsu India provides you with. Noting rally about it.

Agreed mitsu engines are pretty much crap compared to whats available elsewhere... In UK the lancer has a 4G63 mill whereas India gets a $hitty 4G94. However the best part about the Cedia is the suspension, handling and high speed stability. The civic doesn't even have an independent rear suspension .

Today while coming back from mysore, I took the new BMIC highway. While entering and then doing 170 odd on that road, I did not realize what exists at its end... a horrid cross country patch probably meant for SUVs. What surprised me completely was the way the car negotiated it without a hitch... not one place did it complain nor did it scrape the bottom anywhere.

[mclaren1885]

Originally Posted by reignofchaos

Agreed mitsu engines are pretty much crap compared to whats available elsewhere... In UK the lancer has a 4G63 mill whereas India gets a $hitty 4G94. However the best part about the Cedia is the suspension, handling and high speed stability. The civic doesn't even have an independent rear suspension .

You need the horses to see the handling too. Handling is nothing when stationary .

[reignofchaos]

Its not that the engine is completely good for nothing.... Any sane speeds on Indian roads [read 200 or less] is not an issue. Its not a car for dragging though. Also if racing on a circuit, I'd guess you'd already know that handling and traction around corners is way more important than straight line speed . Thats exactly where it excels.

[Vid6639]

Originally Posted by reignofchaos

The civic doesn't even have an independent rear suspension .

The Civic does have a complete independant suspension.

Yeah the Cedia's suspension is very well tuned right balance between ride and handling.

[reignofchaos]

The honda india site mentions double wishbone with coil springs and doesn't mention independent. However for the accord, it does mention independent multilink with stabilizer bar... the same as Cedia . So I assumed the civic is not else they'd mention it. Are you sure its independent?

Edit: Direct links to specs page

Civic: Honda Car India: Civic - Technical Specifications
Accord: Specification
Cedia: Mitsubishi Motors India

[Vid6639]

Originally Posted by reignofchaos

The honda india site mentions double wishbone with coil springs and doesn't mention independent. However for the accord, it does mention independent multilink with stabilizer bar... the same as Cedia . So I assumed the civic is not else they'd mention it. Are you sure its independent?

Yup very sure, I dint see the website but i went underneath the car and saw the suspension.

It's a very similar setup to the Cedia's independant one. It's a multilink independant setup.

[reignofchaos]

Hehe that settles it . I wonder what the dealer was wondering when you did that .

[mclaren1885]

Originally Posted by reignofchaos

Also if racing on a circuit, I'd guess you'd already know that handling and traction around corners is way more important than straight line speed . Thats exactly where it excels.

Just incase, you need a good entry speed too (I am just kidding). Though the engines doesnt do justice to the rest of the car I would love to see your car at the next track day.

[reignofchaos]

Hehe if there is one, i'm coming for sure .

[mclaren1885]

Originally Posted by reignofchaos

Hehe if there is one, i'm coming for sure .

Have no fear, I am here. Will arrange for you.