Huge fix. Car in the 6 - 8 lakh range?

mclaren1885 · 10th July 2007, 01:29

Look at the Verna D. Though a tad expensive than your budget you will be satisfied with the car.

After reading horror stories with Ford from Sivasuma, Vid6639 and a friend of mine I would try and stay as far away from Ford as possible.

IronWolf · 10th July 2007, 02:18

Ford - Okay Diesel car however Horrible and expensive parts and service. Logan - Ugly room on wheels Verna - safe CRDi bet

benbsb29 · 10th July 2007, 09:27

Maybe while considering Verna one should also take a look at the recent quality issues which are popping up from Hyundai, cases for example being Sam's axle failure, and also issues with Hellstar's Verna.

Now, its an even platform.

mclaren1885 · 10th July 2007, 09:57

Benny quality issues can be rectified. Besides, the above cases could be one offs. But if FORD were to treat the customers with recklessness as in case of the above mentioned 3 by me I would be scared.

gemithomas · 10th July 2007, 10:31

beanstalk. This would be what i would say.

Honda: Real good one from the Honda Brand. You would not be let down with quality issues. The mileage is really on the better side. The rear seats are really comfortable and the ride quality is real cool. But you might have to pay for the quality. Especially for the VTec engine. Moreover if you plan to go for it, please wait for some time. Its pretty obvious that Honda wil "react" to the Maruti SX4. So dont loose on a more VFM product that might be in the market not that late. If you can wait for a while and if you can affor the VTech (which i think is beinf offered on base versions too) there is no thinking that needs to be done. GO for the Honda.

Verna (D): I feel its priced slightly on the higher side, but maybe you could make up on monthly diesel costs. THe vehicle is real powerful and you might just find it slighly overpowered for your city driving (which you say is a high majority of your total use). The ride also is not that smooth. If you ever have the chance to follow a verna you can see its back jumping (just like the horse they advertise!!!). Now whether the passengers are also gallopping....Not too sure but logically they should be!! Off late we have also been seeing an increase in the quality issue cmplaints about hyndai vehicles. Not very sure about whether this is real or just coincidence.

Fiesta (D): Another drivers car after the Ikon. The Handling and the power delivery os too good. But fords hard suspension and even harder hearted service station people would surely dissappoint you sooner or later. But if you relly enjoy driving this one would interest you and it also returns pretty decent F.E figures.

The SX4: This is a real value for money product from maruti stable. There are few complaints about bad quality pastics and about the fit and finish. But at that price it is really a cool one. But For your city use, the F.E figures might be an issue. However you could use the money you save in "not buying the Honda" to make up for your petrol bill for about 2 years!!!

gopinathann · 10th July 2007, 10:37

Hi beanstalk,
Ford - NO NO ( because of a. s. s & high spare cost)
If you want to purchase immediately go for the Verna CRDI (Swift Diesel if budget is a concern).
If you can wait for 6-8 months look for the Fiat Linea (still problem with a. s. s.) or SX4 Diesel.

chittybang · 10th July 2007, 20:16

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Originally Posted by benbsb29

I didnt quite get that. They only offer warranty for the first year, while you would need to go in for Extended warranty, for upto a total of 3 years.

You are right. What i intended to say was they have a good maintanence plan instead of extended warranty. for the deisel they have a plan of 15 K which covers all sort of maintainence except tyres and accident ( which includes scratches). Thats a decent option.

karty_83 · 16th July 2007, 03:00

Your running is quite high, so a diesel car makes more sense. Go for the FIESTA TDCI base model, it fits into your budget. Also FUSION is being launched with the same 1.4 TDCI engine and would cost marginally lesser than the fiesta.

VBV · 16th July 2007, 12:40

If you just need it for city driving, do you really want FE to be an important criteria in your buying decision? You might want to do some calculations, before you decide on FE that you consider as good.

Also, are you sure you want to buy a first hand? or else a second octi/OHC-VTEC might be available for you.

beanstalk_230 · 4th September 2007, 02:10

hi guys
i wanted to ask you all about the drawbacks of optra magnum, im in such a huge fix because i have to decide a car within 2-4 days time. im getting the magnum for 9.5L onroad LS version, and competin with the likes of verna D, fiesta D and maybe yeah even indigo Dicor. my main concern is FE but after the magnum TD i just fell in love with car, also heard that the car has FE of around 15 in the city, i currently own the petrol optra and service has never been an issue with it, and i do appreciate GM because of the very low maintenance of the car except the FE, i do expect similar service and low maintenance from them if i buy the magnum. (im talkin more about service here because we have spent a hell lot of money on our indigo diesel which recently broke down again) dunno what 2 do guys.

how is the service and maintenance of the ford fiesta diesel and verna diesel?

i think this Q should'nt be here but i just want to ask whether petrol optra can be fitted with a LPG kit (not CNG) and if yes then what are its drawbacks except a bit lowdown in performance in the gas mode?

Mod's Note: Always use an existing thread to post rather than opening a new one on the same subject. All the more so when both the threads belong to you there is no reason to have the second new thread.

Both your threads have now been merged.

vnabhi · 4th September 2007, 15:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclaren1885

Look at the Verna D. Though a tad expensive than your budget you will be satisfied with the car.

After reading horror stories with Ford from Sivasuma, Vid6639 and a friend of mine I would try and stay as far away from Ford as possible.

If you consider those to be one-off cases, even these posts related to Fiesta ought to be considered on the same footing.
Ford's service has improved a lot, and their spares have got cheaper compared to the Ikon days.

vnabhi · 4th September 2007, 16:04

[quote=beanstalk_230;552631]hi guys
i wanted to ask you all about the drawbacks of optra magnum,---.

I've read in some mag that there is a huge turbo lag in lower gears at crawling speeds, but since you TD'd it, you will know better.

how is the service and maintenance of the ford fiesta diesel and verna diesel?----

Ford service has improved by leaps and bounds, but in some cities it seems to have not improved at all.
As regards Hyundai service, I am told it is good all over the country.

beanstalk_230 · 8th September 2007, 09:51

so finally ending this thread.. i have brought the optra magnum LS Black after hell lot of search, hope its a wise decision.. just wana say one thing... IM IN LOVE WITH THE CAR....

alankarm@sancha · 9th September 2007, 09:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by beanstalk_230

so finally ending this thread.. i have brought the optra magnum LS Black after hell lot of search, hope its a wise decision.. just wana say one thing... IM IN LOVE WITH THE CAR....

Congrats buddy, enjoy the car. Optra is a very good and comfortable car.

somebodystopme · 9th September 2007, 12:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclaren1885

Look at the Verna D. Though a tad expensive than your budget you will be satisfied with the car.

After reading horror stories with Ford from Sivasuma, Vid6639 and a friend of mine I would try and stay as far away from Ford as possible.

Hi am plannin to buy Fiesta. What horror stories you talking about mate???? If on this board can you please send me the link..

10th July 2007, 01:29	#16
mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,820 Thanked: 45 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	Look at the Verna D. Though a tad expensive than your budget you will be satisfied with the car. After reading horror stories with Ford from Sivasuma, Vid6639 and a friend of mine I would try and stay as far away from Ford as possible.
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10th July 2007, 02:18	#17
IronWolf Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Benga-loo-ru Posts: 1,569 Thanked: 45 Times View My Garage	Ford - Okay Diesel car however Horrible and expensive parts and service. Logan - Ugly room on wheels Verna - safe CRDi bet
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10th July 2007, 09:27	#18
benbsb29 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,969 Thanked: 13,231 Times View My Garage	Maybe while considering Verna one should also take a look at the recent quality issues which are popping up from Hyundai, cases for example being Sam's axle failure, and also issues with Hellstar's Verna. Now, its an even platform.
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10th July 2007, 09:57	#19
mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,820 Thanked: 45 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	Benny quality issues can be rectified. Besides, the above cases could be one offs. But if FORD were to treat the customers with recklessness as in case of the above mentioned 3 by me I would be scared.
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10th July 2007, 10:31	#20
gemithomas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,366 Thanked: 143 Times View My Garage	beanstalk. This would be what i would say. Honda: Real good one from the Honda Brand. You would not be let down with quality issues. The mileage is really on the better side. The rear seats are really comfortable and the ride quality is real cool. But you might have to pay for the quality. Especially for the VTec engine. Moreover if you plan to go for it, please wait for some time. Its pretty obvious that Honda wil "react" to the Maruti SX4. So dont loose on a more VFM product that might be in the market not that late. If you can wait for a while and if you can affor the VTech (which i think is beinf offered on base versions too) there is no thinking that needs to be done. GO for the Honda. Verna (D): I feel its priced slightly on the higher side, but maybe you could make up on monthly diesel costs. THe vehicle is real powerful and you might just find it slighly overpowered for your city driving (which you say is a high majority of your total use). The ride also is not that smooth. If you ever have the chance to follow a verna you can see its back jumping (just like the horse they advertise!!!). Now whether the passengers are also gallopping....Not too sure but logically they should be!! Off late we have also been seeing an increase in the quality issue cmplaints about hyndai vehicles. Not very sure about whether this is real or just coincidence. Fiesta (D): Another drivers car after the Ikon. The Handling and the power delivery os too good. But fords hard suspension and even harder hearted service station people would surely dissappoint you sooner or later. But if you relly enjoy driving this one would interest you and it also returns pretty decent F.E figures. The SX4: This is a real value for money product from maruti stable. There are few complaints about bad quality pastics and about the fit and finish. But at that price it is really a cool one. But For your city use, the F.E figures might be an issue. However you could use the money you save in "not buying the Honda" to make up for your petrol bill for about 2 years!!!
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10th July 2007, 10:37	#21
gopinathann BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 765 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Hi beanstalk, Ford - NO NO ( because of a. s. s & high spare cost) If you want to purchase immediately go for the Verna CRDI (Swift Diesel if budget is a concern). If you can wait for 6-8 months look for the Fiat Linea (still problem with a. s. s.) or SX4 Diesel.
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16th July 2007, 03:00	#23
karty_83 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 399 Thanked: 166 Times	Your running is quite high, so a diesel car makes more sense. Go for the FIESTA TDCI base model, it fits into your budget. Also FUSION is being launched with the same 1.4 TDCI engine and would cost marginally lesser than the fiesta.
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16th July 2007, 12:40	#24
VBV BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 227 Thanked: 6 Times	If you just need it for city driving, do you really want FE to be an important criteria in your buying decision? You might want to do some calculations, before you decide on FE that you consider as good. Also, are you sure you want to buy a first hand? or else a second octi/OHC-VTEC might be available for you.
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4th September 2007, 02:10	#25
beanstalk_230 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lucknow/New Delhi Posts: 263 Thanked: 45 Times	drawbacks of optra magnum???? urgennnntttt... jus 2-4 days left to decide hi guys i wanted to ask you all about the drawbacks of optra magnum, im in such a huge fix because i have to decide a car within 2-4 days time. im getting the magnum for 9.5L onroad LS version, and competin with the likes of verna D, fiesta D and maybe yeah even indigo Dicor. my main concern is FE but after the magnum TD i just fell in love with car, also heard that the car has FE of around 15 in the city, i currently own the petrol optra and service has never been an issue with it, and i do appreciate GM because of the very low maintenance of the car except the FE, i do expect similar service and low maintenance from them if i buy the magnum. (im talkin more about service here because we have spent a hell lot of money on our indigo diesel which recently broke down again) dunno what 2 do guys. how is the service and maintenance of the ford fiesta diesel and verna diesel? i think this Q should'nt be here but i just want to ask whether petrol optra can be fitted with a LPG kit (not CNG) and if yes then what are its drawbacks except a bit lowdown in performance in the gas mode? Mod's Note: Always use an existing thread to post rather than opening a new one on the same subject. All the more so when both the threads belong to you there is no reason to have the second new thread. Both your threads have now been merged.
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4th September 2007, 16:04	#27
vnabhi Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: DC -> DC Posts: 5,958 Thanked: 2,393 Times View My Garage	[quote=beanstalk_230;552631]hi guys i wanted to ask you all about the drawbacks of optra magnum,---. I've read in some mag that there is a huge turbo lag in lower gears at crawling speeds, but since you TD'd it, you will know better. how is the service and maintenance of the ford fiesta diesel and verna diesel?---- Ford service has improved by leaps and bounds, but in some cities it seems to have not improved at all. As regards Hyundai service, I am told it is good all over the country.
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8th September 2007, 09:51	#28
beanstalk_230 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lucknow/New Delhi Posts: 263 Thanked: 45 Times	so finally ending this thread.. i have brought the optra magnum LS Black after hell lot of search, hope its a wise decision.. just wana say one thing... IM IN LOVE WITH THE CAR....
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