Diesel for between 10-15 L

karan561 · 12th September 2007, 19:49

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Originally Posted by reignofchaos

Sorry that was a typo... meant C220 CDI. As I said... overdrive lists the exshowroom delhi of the Laura as 16.3 and C220 as 26.5 (in mumbai its 2 lacs more).

nowhere in INDIA does an C 220 CDI cost less than 29 lakhs ....

reignofchaos · 12th September 2007, 19:51

Nope... thats the 0-100 of the c220. Even autocar lists it as 10.37s.

@karan: Those are ex showroom prices. There'll be atleast 3-4 lacs of tax on it.... depending on where you live.

karan561 · 12th September 2007, 20:02

oh that way the Laura minus the taxes is about 14.4 , and On road mumbai is 19.06 Lakhs (L & K - A/T) and 18.43 Lakhs (L & K - M/T) , whereas the C220 Cdi is 32.53 lakhs @ mumbai (MT) and 34.29 (AT).
So what the arguement all about ?

reignofchaos · 12th September 2007, 20:05

The whole argument is that comparing a Laura to a C220 both in terms of performance is lame... There's a 40bhp difference between the two... which is not insignificant.

karan561 · 12th September 2007, 20:11

36 bhp to be precise ..... looking at the figures it should have performed well ... it wasnt only an performance comparison but also , looks , features ,the value for money , Anyway .... check out how the arguement started ... il enlighten you on that fact .... Mr. Kumar was confused between an 2nd hand c-class and an 2nd hand laura , so for that point to be seen in a broader spectrum , it is compared .... the THREAD ALSO SAYS " Diesel for between 10-15 L " and not " LAURA v/s C220 Cdi "

BUSA · 13th September 2007, 16:42

Karan - I agree the Laura is fantastic VFM and you own one too a good choice.

I would never recomend buying a second hand C, however the current C is much better then the Laura in all terms and the 12Lacs premium is worth it. The Laura has been launched recently wheras the New C when launched will be so much more better then the Laura, precisely because, what ever Mercedes makes is one of the best, no wonder its the future of the Automobiles. FYI the first ABS, Airbags in a road car was on a Mercedes Benz S Class, all these technos are invented by Mercedes and used by the Czechs with the help of other German Co. like VW and Audi. Skoda as a company is nothing but a rebranded VW, and to prove the point just open your Laura's hood and you will see VAG parts.

Anyways i myself suggested Kumar to buy a Laura and if not the Laura then the Magnum but calling the Laura better then C is something not-so-sensible.

Ricky_63 · 13th September 2007, 18:32

IMHO the Laura makes a sensible buy within a reasonable budget & excellent features, driveability & FE. Second choice would be the Oprtra Magnum Diesel.

Cheers

DCEite · 13th September 2007, 18:59

Haven't turned the last few pages.
Thread title says Diesel for 10-15L.
My answer: Optra Magnum TCDi.

karan561 · 13th September 2007, 23:32

my choice also an OPTRA MAGNUM (refer to my 1st post) if buying a new car , if a 2nd hand , then an LAURA .

kumar2007 · 13th September 2007, 23:40

Hey, I'm back at the starting point

. Well not really - I guess its between the new Magna and the used Laura. Will try to follow up on the Laura that I am looking at.

Any idea of the A.S.S. of the Optra? A friend has the Optra petrol and is pretty disgusted with the service in Bangalore.

BUSA · 14th September 2007, 05:03

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Any idea of the A.S.S. of the Optra? A friend has the Optra petrol and is pretty disgusted with the service in Bangalore

Try Sundaram, quite good better then Garuda.

kumar2007 · 14th September 2007, 07:48

Busa,

Thanks - never thought of that. My friend is upset with Garuda.

Strider · 14th September 2007, 17:56

Among the new ones if the Sonata fits the budget then go for it, it is a high quality car with an good engine.
Don't go for the Elantra, it is in for replacement.
Optra Magnum is an excellent car, my choice since I think the Sonata is out of budget.

Among the used ones, the Laura Diesel sounds like the better bet, excellent hi tech engine, great gearbox, build quality, space. It has everything.

My recommendation: Sonata Embera. If that's out of budget then Optra Magnum (new car for me any day). Laura if you're okay with spending 12-13 lacs on second hand.

~Strider

kumar2007 · 14th September 2007, 20:34

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Originally Posted by Strider

Among the new ones if the Sonata fits the budget then go for it, it is a high quality car with an good engine.
Don't go for the Elantra, it is in for replacement.
Optra Magnum is an excellent car, my choice since I think the Sonata is out of budget.

Among the used ones, the Laura Diesel sounds like the better bet, excellent hi tech engine, great gearbox, build quality, space. It has everything.

My recommendation: Sonata Embera. If that's out of budget then Optra Magnum (new car for me any day). Laura if you're okay with spending 12-13 lacs on second hand.

~Strider

If you can get me a used Laura for 12-13 I will be FOREVER grateful. I am looking at prices between 16-16.5 for a year old Laura. OTR price in Bangalore is 20 L

kumar2007 · 15th September 2007, 00:03

Update - got a call right now from my friend [at midnight]. Says that My Laura deal may go thru at 16.25L. What do you guys think? Its an absolutely clean car at 3.65L less than the OTR price of a new car.

12th September 2007, 19:51	#32
reignofchaos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,542 Thanked: 2,450 Times View My Garage	Nope... thats the 0-100 of the c220. Even autocar lists it as 10.37s. @karan: Those are ex showroom prices. There'll be atleast 3-4 lacs of tax on it.... depending on where you live. Last edited by reignofchaos : 12th September 2007 at 19:53.
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12th September 2007, 20:02	#33
karan561 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 5,068 Thanked: 22,246 Times View My Garage	oh that way the Laura minus the taxes is about 14.4 , and On road mumbai is 19.06 Lakhs (L & K - A/T) and 18.43 Lakhs (L & K - M/T) , whereas the C220 Cdi is 32.53 lakhs @ mumbai (MT) and 34.29 (AT). So what the arguement all about ?
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12th September 2007, 20:05	#34
reignofchaos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,542 Thanked: 2,450 Times View My Garage	The whole argument is that comparing a Laura to a C220 both in terms of performance is lame... There's a 40bhp difference between the two... which is not insignificant.
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12th September 2007, 20:11	#35
karan561 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 5,068 Thanked: 22,246 Times View My Garage	36 bhp to be precise ..... looking at the figures it should have performed well ... it wasnt only an performance comparison but also , looks , features ,the value for money , Anyway .... check out how the arguement started ... il enlighten you on that fact .... Mr. Kumar was confused between an 2nd hand c-class and an 2nd hand laura , so for that point to be seen in a broader spectrum , it is compared .... the THREAD ALSO SAYS " Diesel for between 10-15 L " and not " LAURA v/s C220 Cdi " Last edited by karan561 : 12th September 2007 at 20:28.
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13th September 2007, 16:42	#36
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Karan - I agree the Laura is fantastic VFM and you own one too a good choice. I would never recomend buying a second hand C, however the current C is much better then the Laura in all terms and the 12Lacs premium is worth it. The Laura has been launched recently wheras the New C when launched will be so much more better then the Laura, precisely because, what ever Mercedes makes is one of the best, no wonder its the future of the Automobiles. FYI the first ABS, Airbags in a road car was on a Mercedes Benz S Class, all these technos are invented by Mercedes and used by the Czechs with the help of other German Co. like VW and Audi. Skoda as a company is nothing but a rebranded VW, and to prove the point just open your Laura's hood and you will see VAG parts. Anyways i myself suggested Kumar to buy a Laura and if not the Laura then the Magnum but calling the Laura better then C is something not-so-sensible.
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13th September 2007, 18:32	#37
Ricky_63 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,885 Thanked: 518 Times View My Garage	IMHO the Laura makes a sensible buy within a reasonable budget & excellent features, driveability & FE. Second choice would be the Oprtra Magnum Diesel. Cheers
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13th September 2007, 18:59	#38
DCEite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NCR Posts: 3,417 Thanked: 2,560 Times	Haven't turned the last few pages. Thread title says Diesel for 10-15L. My answer: Optra Magnum TCDi.
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13th September 2007, 23:32	#39
karan561 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 5,068 Thanked: 22,246 Times View My Garage	my choice also an OPTRA MAGNUM (refer to my 1st post) if buying a new car , if a 2nd hand , then an LAURA .
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13th September 2007, 23:40	#40
kumar2007 BANNED Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 213 Thanked: 34 Times	Hey, I'm back at the starting point. Well not really - I guess its between the new Magna and the used Laura. Will try to follow up on the Laura that I am looking at. Any idea of the A.S.S. of the Optra? A friend has the Optra petrol and is pretty disgusted with the service in Bangalore.
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14th September 2007, 07:48	#42
kumar2007 BANNED Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 213 Thanked: 34 Times	Busa, Thanks - never thought of that. My friend is upset with Garuda.
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14th September 2007, 17:56	#43
Strider BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 60 Thanked: 0 Times	Among the new ones if the Sonata fits the budget then go for it, it is a high quality car with an good engine. Don't go for the Elantra, it is in for replacement. Optra Magnum is an excellent car, my choice since I think the Sonata is out of budget. Among the used ones, the Laura Diesel sounds like the better bet, excellent hi tech engine, great gearbox, build quality, space. It has everything. My recommendation: Sonata Embera. If that's out of budget then Optra Magnum (new car for me any day). Laura if you're okay with spending 12-13 lacs on second hand. ~Strider
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15th September 2007, 00:03	#45
kumar2007 BANNED Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 213 Thanked: 34 Times	Update - got a call right now from my friend [at midnight]. Says that My Laura deal may go thru at 16.25L. What do you guys think? Its an absolutely clean car at 3.65L less than the OTR price of a new car.
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