[carwatcher]

I am not sure whether this has been discussed or not before but would definitely like to know, is there any specific reason for using the spelling of the word Endeavor as Endeavour for their SUV. I found it very surprising considering the parent company is a US one.
Any pointers.

[AVR]

Originally Posted by carwatcher

I am not sure whether this has been discussed or not before but would definitely like to know, is there any specific reason for using the spelling of the word Endeavor as Endeavour for their SUV. I found it very surprising considering the parent company is a US one.
Any pointers.

Localization? India is still a British English zone.

[mallumowgli]

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

I mean, generally, "sister" can denote any relationship whatsoever ...and, of course, aunties and uncles don't have to be related at all

I've read Russian novels where they also use the term uncle the way we Indians /Asians do - for even unrelated elders!!

Originally Posted by carwatcher

I am not sure whether this has been discussed or not before but would definitely like to know, is there any specific reason for using the spelling of the word Endeavor as Endeavour for their SUV. I found it very surprising considering the parent company is a US one.
Any pointers.

Just checked Wiki for Spaceship Endeavour and found that it is named after British ship Endeavour. So, is the Ford Endeavour named after the Spaceship Endeavour which in turn takes on the name from HMS Endeavour? Or is it directly named after the Captain Cook's ship?

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by carwatcher

I am not sure ...

You mean you don't know? See my post on this a short way back

Endeavor is the American spelling (my spellchecker marks it as wrong), but trade and model names do not have to be real words and may well be made up by the marketing people to look good or different.

[carwatcher]

I am sure this time that the words used by me were appropriate. Why? Because I searched only on this thread and didn't find any match but there is a high probability that this might have been discussed on some dedicated Ford Endeavour thread which I didn't search. Hence the words "I am not sure".

On the same lines is there any story behind using the name "Thar" which is departing from the usual "O" ending names. Posted it twice on Thar's official Test drive thread but no success.

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

You mean you don't know? See my post on this a short way back

Endeavor is the American spelling (my spellchecker marks it as wrong), but trade and model names do not have to be real words and may well be made up by the marketing people to look good or different.

In TBHP spell checker Endeavour is marked as wrong.

[mallumowgli]

Originally Posted by carwatcher

On the same lines is there any story behind using the name "Thar" which is departing from the usual "O" ending names. Posted it twice on Thar's official Test drive thread but no success.


In TBHP spell checker Endeavour is marked as wrong.

They used the O meant for the Thar for the XUV - thats why it has two 'O's. 5OO!!

Tbhp spell checker may be based on MS Office US English

[Thad E Ginathom]

I don't think (I'm not sure ) that there is a T-BHP spell checker. My understanding is that it is our browser's spell[ing] checker at work when we post on T-BHP.

A lot of these things, on installation, default to American English. I have to specify that I have a UK keyboard layout, and that I want English-UK environment for stuff.

[DerAlte]

Originally Posted by mallumowgli

... Tbhp spell checker may be based on MS Office US English

TBHP doesn't have a spell checker (forget any MS Office stuff )

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

... My understanding is that it is our browser's spell[ing] checker at work when we post on T-BHP. ...

Correct. All modern browsers support this.

Originally Posted by mallumowgli

They used the O meant for the Thar ...

If they had put the o at the end of Thar, they would had a tough time convincing people of their intentions. "tharo" would be misinterpreted as the GJ / RJ rough equivalent of the north Indian (abbreviated) epithet "oye teri to"

[noopster]

Back to the co brother discussion...

Does anyone here watch Breaking Bad? Walt's wife's sister's husband Hank the DEA agent is referred to as his "brother in law" throughout. The desi in me wants to stand up and shout, "He is your wife's brother in law you dummy. The correct term is co brother! "

Grammatically inaccurate it may be but the term is practically deadly accurate. Similar to prepone in that sense, it's not a real word but when someone uses it you know exactly what they mean!

[anupmathur]

Originally Posted by noopster

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Grammatically inaccurate it may be but the term is practically deadly accurate. Similar to prepone in that sense, it's not a real word but when someone uses it you know exactly what they mean!

Ha ha, I quite agree with what you say!
And I do think that it pays not to be 'deadly' rigid about these matters. The beauty of a language is that it evolves the way people feel a need for.

[Thad E Ginathom]

I do think that it pays not to be 'deadly' rigid about these matters...

In a thread called ...How to Post in Proper English?

It's true that language evolves. i'm sure we have discussed this before. I bet that when you hear about Evolution of language, nine times out of ten it will be from someone justifying their ignorance or their mistake. Getting it right doesn't matter because, hey, language evolves!

Does anyone here watch Breaking Bad? Walt's wife's sister's husband Hank the DEA agent is referred to as his "brother in law" throughout. The desi in me wants to stand up and shout, "He is your wife's brother in law you dummy. The correct term is co brother! "

Even "correct" language has its faults and defficiencies.Certainly the description is more accurate, but the word is a poor choice: a co-brother would have to be an assistant to your brother. What if you don't even have a brother!

[noopster]

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

Even "correct" language has its faults and defficiencies.Certainly the description is more accurate, but the word is a poor choice: a co-brother would have to be an assistant to your brother. What if you don't even have a brother!

Hey I didn't invent the term! It is typically used by South Indians, though I suspect it has spread across the nation.

One of my friends growing up had a family where her mom's sister was married to her dad's brother. In that case the co-brothers were actually brothers!

[mallumowgli]

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

Even "correct" language has its faults and defficiencies.Certainly the description is more accurate, but the word is a poor choice: a co-brother would have to be an assistant to your brother. What if you don't even have a brother!

You sure have something against usage 'co-'. Earlier you were up in arms against co-passengers, now it is co-brother

(just kidding!)

Originally Posted by noopster

Hey I didn't invent the term! It is typically used by South Indians, though I suspect it has spread across the nation.

Big city South Indians. I heard this word first when I moved to Chennai from a small South TN town, and I thought I must be an ignorant country fellow not to have known this word. But then Oxford dictionary also threw a blank!!

And we South Indians give our own twist to common English words

Sentiment is used in place of Superstition
Similarly...
slang - accent
glamour - sexy or even any revealing dress
homely girl - comely or girl next door
...and many more

[mayankk]

I have a gripe with the commentary on formula 1.

The guys in the 4th and 5th position are battling, but they're battling for 4th position.
What I hear is "the battle for 4th and 5th".
Why would there be a battle?

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by noopster

Hey I didn't invent the term! It is typically used by South Indians, though I suspect it has spread across the nation.

Originally Posted by mallumowgli

You sure have something against usage 'co-'. Earlier you were up in arms against co-passengers, now it is co-brother

Or maybe I have a something against noopster!

Just kidding!


Nothing personal, noopster. Use of "you" was general rather than specific

(please note: it was general, not "generic.")

mallumowgli, I have a thing against misuse, and against using prefixes and suffixes without some knowledge of what they actually mean and what is appropriate to the word. When done with skill and ability, invention and creativity is a vital part of language and its beauty. Didn't Shakespeare make up many of the words he used?