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Old 7th February 2017, 15:15   #2656
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I have felt that many bhpians are having a problem with the word 'definitely,' more than any other ones.
I have always had trouble with definitely and separate.

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Re: A YetiGuideŽ : How To Post In Proper English

"...you can rest assured, you'll get the highest quality at the best price."

Anything wrong with this sentence?
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"...you can rest assured, you'll get the highest quality at the best price."

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That comma feels awkward. Either of "you can rest assured you'll get your stuff" or "rest assured; you'll get your stuff" sounds a lot better, to me.

I'm also not a fan of your two superlatives; highest quality and best price are both chimerical in my opinion.
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"...you can rest assured, you'll get the highest quality at the best price."

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That comma feels awkward. Either of "you can rest assured you'll get your stuff" or "rest assured; you'll get your stuff" sounds a lot better, to me.

I'm also not a fan of your two superlatives; highest quality and best price are both chimerical in my opinion.
Or even ""...you can rest assured that you'll get the highest quality at the best price." Does that seem to have a better structure to it?
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Or even ""...you can rest assured that you'll get the highest quality at the best price." Does that seem to have a better structure to it?
Experts can comment further; but I find the usage of "that" as a conjunction in many cases is superfluous.
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Experts can comment further; but I find the usage of "that" as a conjunction in many cases is superfluous.
"that" was what my doubt was about.

FYI, not my sentence - I'm just proofreading it. It's publicity material, so superlatives should be OK.

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"...you can rest assured, you'll get the highest quality at the best price."

Anything wrong with this sentence?
I always interprete two meanings here. I am not sure which one is right.

1. You can rest (Read: Take rest) with an assurance that you will get the best.
2. You can be assured for the Rest(All other things), and you will get the best.

Which one is actually right?
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I always interprete two meanings here. I am not sure which one is right.

1. You can rest (Read: Take rest) with an assurance that you will get the best.
2. You can be assured for the Rest(All other things), and you will get the best.

Which one is actually right?
The first one.
The most annoying usage I have seen, repeatedly is "be rest assured".
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I guess they might sound similar when pronounced by someone whose first language does not have the "sh" sibilant, and whose "saw" comes out like "so". Does Oriya qualify?
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You've hit the nail on the head! Most Oriya guys cannot pronounce 'sh' correctly.
Just cant stop laughing . I am also guilty as charged.
As the problem is not with the 'sh' sibilant, Odia has 3 's'es apparently, the issue is with the education system.
For long being as a economically backward region, having a radio that able to catch the BBC center or going to a school with medium of teaching is Her Highness' language was a luxury that the majority could not have access to; may be till a decade back.
Like me, most are only taught grammar and sentence structure more intensely than the pronunciation in all our education life that we were exposed to the 'Princely' language.
Even I remember one instance in high school, where the most senior language teacher with thick glasses, was confused whether an 'Apple' would pronounce as 'A-P-U-L' or 'E-P-U-L' or 'YA-P-U-L'; no I am not joking, that had happened in my high school and the vote went for 'YAPUL'.
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Just cant stop laughing . I am also guilty as charged.
As the problem is not with the 'sh' sibilant, Odia has 3 's'es apparently, the issue is with the education system.

Like me, most are only taught grammar and sentence structure more intensely than the pronunciation in all our education life that we were exposed to the 'Princely' language.

Well, I was born and educated in Orissa till my graduate degree. I can read and write Oriya too as it was the 3rd language I'd opted for. I am aware of the deficiencies in the education system in government schools. Luckily, my schooling was in a well-known English medium school.

It's good to know from you that things have improved there. However, despite lots of efforts by the current CM over the past decade, IT companies have miniscule presence there. And I believe one of the main reasons is the accent of most aspiring IT professionals. Most hiring managers feel that US clients will not be able to figure out what they're trying to convey. Hope things improve in future.
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Or even ""...you can rest assured that you'll get the highest quality at the best price." Does that seem to have a better structure to it?
If you put something in quotes, almost anything goes, because it is what the guy said!

But the comma should probably have been a colon. And either way, it sort of stands for "that."

Outside of quotes, you can rest assured that you'll get the highest quality at the best price is, indeed, the correct suggestion.

The word understood covers a multitude of missing words in the English language. It is quite hard to say whether a particular missing word is an error, or it is understood.
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Everyday in almost every post the most brutally mauled word is "break" ( brake). Anyone agree?
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Everyday in almost every post the most brutally mauled word is "break" ( brake). Anyone agree?
I see a lot of Power Breaks on trucks and Ambys, and I always wonder about the Martial arts capabilities of the driver.
The first image that pops into my mind is shoryuken.
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Everyday in almost every post the most brutally mauled word is "break" ( brake). Anyone agree?
Give those posters a brake, you spelling Nazi!

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Everyday in almost every post the most brutally mauled word is "break" ( brake). Anyone agree?
I not only agree, I do it myself.

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Give those posters a brake, you spelling Nazi!
"lol." What else can I say?

Another linguo-technological (can I say that?) confusion is between engaging and disengaging the clutch.
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