Another Racing Death on Noida Expressway...

Torqy · 26th November 2007, 16:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyundai.Lover

Whom should we blame for this?
Govt. or the Janta or the companies?

Govt. - for not providing good roads and one good road like experss way and not giving instructions to the people how to drive carefully.

Do we need instructions to drive carefully??????
Ohhhhh Yes, WE ARE INDIANS. We NEED such instructions.

We might be the ONLY country where we need instructions like

PLEASE DO NOT URINATE HERE
PLEASE DO NOT SPIT HERE
PLEASE DO NOT TRAVEL WITHOUT TICKETS
PLEASE QUEUE
PLEASE STOP AT THE RED SIGNAL

-- Torqy

diabloo · 26th November 2007, 16:32

And still nobody gives a damn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torqy

We might be the ONLY country where we need instructions like
PLEASE DO NOT URINATE HERE
PLEASE DO NOT SPIT HERE
PLEASE DO NOT TRAVEL WITHOUT TICKETS
PLEASE QUEUE
PLEASE STOP AT THE RED SIGNAL

-- Torqy

aZa · 26th November 2007, 17:00

Superbikers are a common sight on the expressway, but they usually dont race. its more of the Stunts, burnouts, wheelies , stopies donuts etc .... This incident could have been a result of a stunt going awfully wrong.

vkochar · 26th November 2007, 17:02

Wah Kya Topic Hai !!! ( Translation - What a Topic !! )

Hyundai.Lover - Wherever you are !! The thread becomes interesting & amusing automatically !! Just Kidding

Let me answer a few of your Questions -

Why is CM Stressing on Agra ?
Because I live there

On a more serious note - Everything connected to Delhi nowadays is being modernised in terms of Roads / Infrastructure.

Delhi is connected mainly 3 ways -

Agra, Jaipur, Chandigarh Route. these 3 cities then connect Delhi towards rest of India ( Rajasthan through jaipur, Mumbai / Bhopal / Indore through Agra, Punjab, Jammu, HP through Chandigarh / GT Karnal Road.

All 3 roads are excellent - Agra stressed mainly because every foreigner who lands in Delhi has to go to Agra ( Do not ask me why now OK !! ).

So that is the reason of Agra / Expressway !! Commonwealth is a very small reason. Commonwealth is only giving them a reason to speed up things.

As far as the bloke in the Santro goes - He was dumb enough doing 120 in a Tall boy car with all people packed in. Well - Why is the govt to be blamed ? To a certain extent - Yes, govt. is at fault BUT Santro was also doing speed which was dangerous enough.

Oh and last thing - How is the M800 safer than a Merc ? What Interview was this !! Can you give me the Link !! It will be a good laugh .

Cheers Mate !!!

bikefreak · 26th November 2007, 17:19

What I understood from the news is that one Bike crashed and both the victims were on the same bike. I wonder if they were wearing any safety gear.

Having riden SBKs, I can tell you that it is extremely uncomfortable and dangerous to have a pillion on a SBK at speeds above 60-70 !!
For one, the centre of gravity changes because the pillion sits at a height and secondly, the momentum of the Bike increases because of the additional mass. These translate into poorer handling & breaking of the bike. The pillion is quite uncomfortable as he has nothing to hold and has to crouch very awkwardly. Besides even a minor movement by the pillon at high speed, if not anticipated by the rider can be catastrophic.

The last accident that occured in our group ride also involved 2 guys riding a busa. Rest of the bikes had a single rider.

Anyway, I hope others do not make this mistake and pray to God to give courage to the families of the departed souls.

cheap_deal · 26th November 2007, 20:55

whether they were doing stunts or racing does NOT matter. both should not be done on public roads.
the only good thing that came out of this accident is that no innocent bystanders or other drivers/riders got hurt or injured. the stuntmen/racers paid the price with their life. RIP

m4ugr8 · 26th November 2007, 21:26

Very Sad.And guys i am a eye witness(partly).

Let me elaborate.

I was returning from spice world sector 25-A after watching a movie.at around 7.30 in front of Great india place mall,came 4 bikes two moddified karizmas and two imported....i dont know whether it was honda because of the fog cover.They overtook me and slowed down.(I think because of my angel eyes).They turned towards csm.

I was wating at the signal at the start of the Expressway to take a right towards delhi.Then 6 bikes all went forward revving hard...sounding their respetive exaust.So i guess their must be a race.What i dont undertand is how can you think of racing in a fog cover.And on expressway where i think the fog is even denser because of the green cover.

May their souls rest in peace.

aZa · 26th November 2007, 22:14

Manan bhai movie so early in the morning ?

swapitude · 26th November 2007, 23:03

its still a mystery whether it was an race or a stunt. i never trust on villagers. even they are like media persons. khichke lamba karenge.
my sympathy with their families and friends. may their souls RIP.

.anshuman · 26th November 2007, 23:07

Racing on public roads is very unsafe,please everybody at team-bhp lets try to discourage it,lets not post pics of speedometers(everybody here know which car is capable of howmuch?)and please lets not promote and post covering distances on public roads in record times,life is precious lets not make it short.

So sorry for the guys in the accident.

vkochar · 26th November 2007, 23:13

Yeah - It was 7 AM in the morning !! Late Movie . Huh ??

Or maybe you saw some other blokes in the evening.

I was just watching news - Aajtak said these imported bikes are capable of 480 KPH !!! Wow !!! Bugatti go weep

Stupid & Idiotic these channels are - I bet now with all this happening - Cops are going to be all around the Expressway now and knowing India they are probably going to make a few rumble - strips every 3 kms or so :(

swapitude · 26th November 2007, 23:13

i blame that driver for speeding beyond limits and blame govt. too for not having signs on that road. if there would have been turning or curve ahead [whatever] sign 50 meters before the turs starts then most probably driver would have slowed down.
i blame both because taali ek hath se nahi bajti

Nikhilb2008 · 26th November 2007, 23:17

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@Mods: I strongly request you to change title to "SBK rider dies in taj expressway crash". To the uninformed, any vehicle doing 100+ on roads is racing. tbhp should be better than that.

I totally agree.... At least t-bhp should be unbiased and fair until all the facts are known...

furioussphinx · 26th November 2007, 23:48

Was reading in another forum...it seems he hit a Wagon R at around 200kmph. Lost control and hit the road boundaries and flew 15 mtrs.

Very Sad....reminds me of my crash at 90kmph on my P200...only thing i was hell lucky that day!

May his soul RIP!

Sagar.

Cyrus43 · 26th November 2007, 23:53

rets in peace guys...at least they died doing what they loved....RIP

26th November 2007, 17:00	#33
aZa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noida / Delhi Posts: 1,595 Thanked: 25 Times View My Garage	Superbikers are a common sight on the expressway, but they usually dont race. its more of the Stunts, burnouts, wheelies , stopies donuts etc .... This incident could have been a result of a stunt going awfully wrong.
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26th November 2007, 17:02	#34
vkochar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Delhi / Agra / London Posts: 2,159 Thanked: 907 Times View My Garage	Wah Kya Topic Hai !!! ( Translation - What a Topic !! ) Hyundai.Lover - Wherever you are !! The thread becomes interesting & amusing automatically !! Just Kidding Let me answer a few of your Questions - Why is CM Stressing on Agra ? Because I live there On a more serious note - Everything connected to Delhi nowadays is being modernised in terms of Roads / Infrastructure. Delhi is connected mainly 3 ways - Agra, Jaipur, Chandigarh Route. these 3 cities then connect Delhi towards rest of India ( Rajasthan through jaipur, Mumbai / Bhopal / Indore through Agra, Punjab, Jammu, HP through Chandigarh / GT Karnal Road. All 3 roads are excellent - Agra stressed mainly because every foreigner who lands in Delhi has to go to Agra ( Do not ask me why now OK !! ). So that is the reason of Agra / Expressway !! Commonwealth is a very small reason. Commonwealth is only giving them a reason to speed up things. As far as the bloke in the Santro goes - He was dumb enough doing 120 in a Tall boy car with all people packed in. Well - Why is the govt to be blamed ? To a certain extent - Yes, govt. is at fault BUT Santro was also doing speed which was dangerous enough. Oh and last thing - How is the M800 safer than a Merc ? What Interview was this !! Can you give me the Link !! It will be a good laugh . Cheers Mate !!! Last edited by vkochar : 26th November 2007 at 17:05.
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26th November 2007, 17:19	#35
bikefreak BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 276 Thanked: 67 Times View My Garage	What I understood from the news is that one Bike crashed and both the victims were on the same bike. I wonder if they were wearing any safety gear. Having riden SBKs, I can tell you that it is extremely uncomfortable and dangerous to have a pillion on a SBK at speeds above 60-70 !! For one, the centre of gravity changes because the pillion sits at a height and secondly, the momentum of the Bike increases because of the additional mass. These translate into poorer handling & breaking of the bike. The pillion is quite uncomfortable as he has nothing to hold and has to crouch very awkwardly. Besides even a minor movement by the pillon at high speed, if not anticipated by the rider can be catastrophic. The last accident that occured in our group ride also involved 2 guys riding a busa. Rest of the bikes had a single rider. Anyway, I hope others do not make this mistake and pray to God to give courage to the families of the departed souls. Last edited by bikefreak : 26th November 2007 at 17:22.
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26th November 2007, 20:55	#36
cheap_deal BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: unknown Posts: 465 Thanked: 8 Times	whether they were doing stunts or racing does NOT matter. both should not be done on public roads. the only good thing that came out of this accident is that no innocent bystanders or other drivers/riders got hurt or injured. the stuntmen/racers paid the price with their life. RIP
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26th November 2007, 21:26	#37
m4ugr8 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,290 Thanked: 129 Times View My Garage	Very Sad.And guys i am a eye witness(partly). Let me elaborate. I was returning from spice world sector 25-A after watching a movie.at around 7.30 in front of Great india place mall,came 4 bikes two moddified karizmas and two imported....i dont know whether it was honda because of the fog cover.They overtook me and slowed down.(I think because of my angel eyes).They turned towards csm. I was wating at the signal at the start of the Expressway to take a right towards delhi.Then 6 bikes all went forward revving hard...sounding their respetive exaust.So i guess their must be a race.What i dont undertand is how can you think of racing in a fog cover.And on expressway where i think the fog is even denser because of the green cover. May their souls rest in peace.
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26th November 2007, 22:14	#38
aZa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noida / Delhi Posts: 1,595 Thanked: 25 Times View My Garage	Manan bhai movie so early in the morning ?
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26th November 2007, 23:03	#39
swapitude BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 33 Thanked: 10 Times	its still a mystery whether it was an race or a stunt. i never trust on villagers. even they are like media persons. khichke lamba karenge. my sympathy with their families and friends. may their souls RIP.
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26th November 2007, 23:07	#40
.anshuman Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Good-Gaon Posts: 7,763 Thanked: 11,126 Times View My Garage	Racing on public roads is very unsafe,please everybody at team-bhp lets try to discourage it,lets not post pics of speedometers(everybody here know which car is capable of howmuch?)and please lets not promote and post covering distances on public roads in record times,life is precious lets not make it short. So sorry for the guys in the accident.
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26th November 2007, 23:13	#41
vkochar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Delhi / Agra / London Posts: 2,159 Thanked: 907 Times View My Garage	Yeah - It was 7 AM in the morning !! Late Movie . Huh ?? Or maybe you saw some other blokes in the evening. I was just watching news - Aajtak said these imported bikes are capable of 480 KPH !!! Wow !!! Bugatti go weep Stupid & Idiotic these channels are - I bet now with all this happening - Cops are going to be all around the Expressway now and knowing India they are probably going to make a few rumble - strips every 3 kms or so :(
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26th November 2007, 23:48	#44
furioussphinx BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 536 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	Was reading in another forum...it seems he hit a Wagon R at around 200kmph. Lost control and hit the road boundaries and flew 15 mtrs. Very Sad....reminds me of my crash at 90kmph on my P200...only thing i was hell lucky that day! May his soul RIP! Sagar.
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26th November 2007, 23:53	#45
Cyrus43 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London Posts: 5,019 Thanked: 230 Times View My Garage	rets in peace guys...at least they died doing what they loved....RIP
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