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How is bilu?

Vinay, May God bless bilu with all the strength to fight for himelf. I know how it feels when your pet isint well. I know its not easy but if you feel that bilu is suffering even after all the treatments, with God's name, let him leave the bad world. Dont think that its any wrong that you have done to free his soul. Bilu was blessed to have a company of you all the time gone by. Relieve him of the pain and help him with his final sleep. May god bless your bilu.

[vinayvtec]

Originally Posted by drbabuanand

very sorry to hear that.who or what is billu?(it is not mentioned any where in your post).please forgive me if i was rude.
what is the diagnosis.
there are lot of treatment options.the renal parameters are raised in a no.,of diseases.to bring it down we do peritoneal(your case) or hemodialysis.
kidney transplant is the final option,not euthanesia.what investigations were done on billu.
please be clear about the diagnosis.our prayers are with you.

It was diagnosed by doing the blood test. It was a peritoneal dialysis no the other kind.

Originally Posted by pranavt

I assume billu is going to undergo CAPD. It's convenient for what it is, less painful than dialysis and the patient can have some semblance of a "normal" life, if you can call it that anymore. What is his age?

Having a kidney surgeon (transplant specialist) as a father who himself went through renal failure, hemodialysis for about 7-8 months and finally a kidney transplant, my personal recommendation would be to get a transplant done. I'm not a doctor, far from it. But I've been on both side of the fences and trust me, you don't want to see your boy in such a state of misery.

CAPD (peritoneal dialysis) or hemodialysis are stopgap solutions to keep the body going for the meanwhile... to keep the blood clean. But your final goal should always be to get a transplant done as soon as possible.

@pranavt, you got it right. But there is work around after this, but this has helped to get this renal count to 6 and now its even less.

Originally Posted by The Wolf

Im guessing its his pet cat for 2 reasons, the renal issues are on the high among cats these days as my girfrens cat is recovering from it right now and ofcos the option of euthanasia, worst to bear!

We all will pray for Bilus recovery, he will be fine soon dont worry!

May God be with you and Bilu. But remember one thing 'whatever happens happens for good' if you are a believer of God! Take care brother...

Yes, I belive in what you said.

Originally Posted by Mayavi

Since euthanasia is an option, I am assuming that billu is your pet dog. Going by that assumption, and at the risk of sounding rude and heartless, I suggest euthanizing the pet if Dialysis is the only option. Trust me, you dont want to be taking care of a pet that has a catheter hanging out of its stomach all the time no matter how much you love. Peretoneal dialysis requires you to change the dialysis fluid every 4 - 6 hrs and it is a half hr process. You need santized area to perform it. The risk of infection for your pet is also high and it itches like hell around the incision area.

If Kidney transplant is an option (financially and medically) then go for it ASAP. It should be very easy to find a donor as we have plenty of strays in India.

And yes, sometimes Acute Renal Failure is reversible if it is caused by some other ailment, as in, the kidneys will heal after the ailment is cured. Chronic Renal failure, as far as I know, is not reversible.

@Mayavi, I would have taken the euthanasia option only if there was nothing I could have tried from my end.



Bilu, is my 6 and half years old boxer. His complete name is Magu Bilu, he has been registered with KCI and AKC with the same name.




Tuesday 10th Feb. mom told she will be coming with me to hospital, she told me that she would be speaking to Dr and she would be returning home after sometime. Woke up bilu, he was having a sound sleep on his bed, mom told he must have body pain so only he is sleeping for a long time, woke him up and sent him for a walk, when he was walking noticed that his legs were swollen. Packed my food and took a quilt for him and a blanket headed towards hospital, Dr had informed his assistant which IV’s should be given and injections. After the first IV they unloaded the fluid and loaded the new one, after the second IV I took him for a walk in hospital garden and his legs where blown like balloon, call the Dr and he told nothing to worry that’s because of the 3 stitches that was put after installing the pipe. I used to go to Dr place at morning 9 and used to be there till 5 in evening, after the first set of IV’s they used to give a break of 4 hrs and then the 2 nd set of IV’s and unload the fluid. This was the routine for 4 days.

[ibm_jennifer]

Man, You make me Mad!

[ASHISHPALLOD]

@ vinay,
so, bilu is your boy which is dog.
anywhere in the post, you have not mentioned anything about bilu's mother and i suspected something wrong. checked your public profile and you are 25 years old. so, you may not married yet but if you are married and have son, you will not post such thing .
no offense meant.
sorry for hard words but people are mislead here while showing sympathy.
i am taking your words lightly and expect you to take my words lightly.

[sukiwa]

@ vinayvtec:

I had sensed something fishy similar to other thread by you, very deceptive.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motorb...e-finally.html

[prince_pervez]

Hey come on man! I too thought it was your son who is sick.
Not that I feel any better but...hey its not your son!

[Cyrus43]

Most of us who have dogs or who are very close to dogs treat them like our sons or daughters. I dont have one myself as my dad doesnt like dogs, but i treat my beast friends lab as my own dog. That is why i took on the challenge of training her too.And now she listens only to me, much to the annoyance of her owner.

Vinay, that is one evry stately boxer you got there. Do give him some biscuits from my side....

[Spitfire]

I can understand what Vinay is going through. A pet is part of family for a lot of us here. Whose pain and suffering can put you in a mighty helpless situation as you dont understand why it acts the way it does when it is sick.

For all those getting annoyed by the post, vinay did mention euthanasia as one of the options given by the doctor in his first post itself. Now when did a doctor suggest to any one of you the option of euthanasia for a kidney problem in humans?

[Red Liner]

I think the guys who misread this post by just reading the title need to read a little better. Obviously this member has written this post in his hour of grief. The nay-sayers, do you have pets - any of you?

So either you have never owned a pet and thus do not know what this member is going through, or you do own one, but are so insensitive to life that you are not really bothered.

I pretty much behaved like this until I got my very own Kitten who walked into my life. Now, I pretty much cannot think of anything else other than her. Its been a life changing experience for me.

My girlfriend lost her boxer last week in very similar circumstances - with a kidney failure, low renal count, arthiritis, ulcer, and finally passed away because of a heart attack. He was just 8 years old and was the love of her life. We were treating him, Spike, at CUPA.

I am keeping a keen eye on this post and will probably contact this member to find out if this is a genetic thing in Boxers. She has 4 other boxers from the same dad, so we are keeping a very close eye on developments.

[Bass&Trouble]

A pet, and especially a dog, is indeed a family member. Any may I add Vinay, you have an extremely handsome son.

[vinayvtec]

Originally Posted by Bass&Trouble

A pet, and especially a dog, is indeed a family member. Any may I add Vinay, you have an extremely handsome son.

@ Bass&Trouble: you won’t believe when a senior manager from my sister’s company quit the organization, he was given the papers of a elephant calf and he was a legal parent for that.

Originally Posted by Red Liner

I think the guys who misread this post by just reading the title need to read a little better. Obviously this member has written this post in his hour of grief. The nay-sayers, do you have pets - any of you?

So either you have never owned a pet and thus do not know what this member is going through, or you do own one, but are so insensitive to life that you are not really bothered.

I pretty much behaved like this until I got my very own Kitten who walked into my life. Now, I pretty much cannot think of anything else other than her. Its been a life changing experience for me.

My girlfriend lost her boxer last week in very similar circumstances - with a kidney failure, low renal count, arthiritis, ulcer, and finally passed away because of a heart attack. He was just 8 years old and was the love of her life. We were treating him, Spike, at CUPA.

I am keeping a keen eye on this post and will probably contact this member to find out if this is a genetic thing in Boxers. She has 4 other boxers from the same dad, so we are keeping a very close eye on developments.

@Red Liner: this renal issue is caused if the pets are not given water in their young age and sometime it just happens. For my guy it was no proper water supply in his young age, he was in my aunt’s place and it was kept in a cage, he was given good food and calcium bones but not proper water to him. When he came to my house he in fact though water was served him to play, then looking at his system he started drinking the water normally, that does not mean he was not getting the water at my aunts place but not very regularly. He used to drink water only twice a day.
Bilu’s mother was raised by my other aunt and his mom gave birth to 8 puppies, we have 6 puppies with known people and I also have another pup from same litter and they have no issue.

Originally Posted by Spitfire

I can understand what Vinay is going through. A pet is part of family for a lot of us here. Whose pain and suffering can put you in a mighty helpless situation as you dont understand why it acts the way it does when it is sick.

For all those getting annoyed by the post, vinay did mention euthanasia as one of the options given by the doctor in his first post itself. Now when did a doctor suggest to any one of you the option of euthanasia for a kidney problem in humans?

@Spitfire: Thanks for understanding dude.

Originally Posted by sukiwa

@ vinayvtec:

I had sensed something fishy similar to other thread by you, very deceptive.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motorb...e-finally.html

Ha, I think this thread did not have something that will mislead the people in the forum. Anyways, 11th Feb, I was supposed to report to my work and I had committed to my manager that I would be reporting whatever the situation is. Had spoken to Dr earlier and told that I would not be able to get more leaves and I can finish my work and get him for IV’s and get back home earlier. Dr had made all the arrangements and informed his assistant which medicines needs to be given. I took him to Dr’s place at 8:30 Am in morning and came back home by 4:00 Pm in evening and get fresh and take a nap and get ready for work. I was able to manage this schedule for 1 week.

When I reported to work on 11th night, the energy boosters from me was red bull and the barista’s ginger lime tea. I had taken permission for going home 1 hrs early for 2 days. After that I got used this schedule, I used to go Dr’s place at 10: 30 AM and get the IV’s for him and come back home by evening 4:30. I was really getting worried when the IV’s were given to him, if he moves his leg, then the needle used to come out of the vine, but this happened only once. He was behaving like a good boy when they used to give him the IV’s and the injections.

[Red Liner]

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[vinayvtec]

Originally Posted by Red Liner

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I got this medicine last week. It came with a price tag of $300 including a 2nd business day deliver. I have put all the vitamin M that was blocked for upgrading my Vtec to stage2.

[supremeBaleno]

Originally Posted by Red Liner

I think the guys who misread this post by just reading the title need to read a little better. Obviously this member has written this post in his hour of grief.

Given his previous thread (someone has given the link), IMO he needs to write a little more clearly avoiding ambiguity. I chanced upon this thread as soon as he posted it. But since I have prior experience with his previous thread where he had written stuff without any coherence, I ignored it.

I also saw "euthanasia' mentioned and assumed it to be an animal, though initially the 'boy' part had me worried bcos I thought it is his son. I have a son myself and so it was worrying. I did a recheck of the meaning of 'euthanasia' and it seems it can be used with humans or animals as in 'animal euthanasia' or 'human euthanasia'. So...

I can understand the grief part also, but if someone is taking the time/effort to put up a long post, would it be that difficult to be clear about who/what one is referring to ? All he had to do was to make it clear what he meant by 'boy' and no one would have had any issues.

And this has nothing to do with people being insensitive or anything. It is just that there is a pecking order which differs for different people. I have had pets and been attached to them too, but just that for me a human life comes a step above animals. I don't think there is anything wrong in that.

[PatienceWins]

Hope your pet would be alright soon.

Originally Posted by supremeBaleno

Given his previous thread (someone has given the link), IMO he needs to write a little more clearly avoiding ambiguity. I chanced upon this thread as soon as he posted it. But since I have prior experience with his previous thread where he had written stuff without any coherence, I ignored it.

I also saw "euthanasia' mentioned and assumed it to be an animal, though initially the 'boy' part had me worried bcos I thought it is his son. I have a son myself and so it was worrying. I did a recheck of the meaning of 'euthanasia' and it seems it can be used with humans or animals as in 'animal euthanasia' or 'human euthanasia'. So...

I can understand the grief part also, but if someone is taking the time/effort to put up a long post, would it be that difficult to be clear about who/what one is referring to ? All he had to do was to make it clear what he meant by 'boy' and no one would have had any issues.

And this has nothing to do with people being insensitive or anything. It is just that there is a pecking order which differs for different people. I have had pets and been attached to them too, but just that for me a human life comes a step above animals. I don't think there is anything wrong in that.

The basic details are important and can be easily clarified in the main thread/ heading. I can understand someone giving a catchy heading, but the thread is deceptive without understanding the entity in description.