Opera is now free

adya33 · 22nd September 2005, 21:59

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Originally Posted by RX135

That is nice. But I like to choose extensions for specific features which are not there in vanilla browser. e.g. my favourites are BugMeNot, dictionary search, sessionsaver, bandwidth tester. I can bloat up my browser as much as I want, or I can strip it down to bare minimum. Anyway, I got to try my hands at new Opera. I wouldn't mind switching to it, if it turns out to be better.

you can customize search engines in opera for whatever search engine you want
session sever built in File/sessions/.....
bandwidth tester shown in status bar can be customized to appear on toolbar too

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I wouldnt say that, I believe the team behind Firefox is the same which built the Netscape & Mozilla browsers So they had everything readymade and just had to enhance :-) correct me if am wrong.

Netscape 4.x code was completly rewritten for Mozilla suit (and Netscape 6)

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Okay, so without extensions can you tell me how to switch proxies on Opera?

Opera doesn't
I think it is in pipeline
but I found this one for you
http://hiproxy.com/

Steeroid · 22nd September 2005, 22:50

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Originally Posted by adya33

Opera doesn't
I think it is in pipeline
but I found this one for you
http://hiproxy.com/

I know, which is why I did not agree with your post that:

as for extentions
this is where Opera shines
YOU DON'T NEED EXTENTIONS because its already there
Opera even comes with Voice Integration

Being one of those who consciously avoid IE or any other MS product if possible (like MSN which I dont use), I have tried Opera but ultimately settled for Firefox. Almost all of Opera's features are available as extensions and then some...plus, it doesnt quite crash on you the way Opera used to.

LIke I said, lets see how this version is - I'd rather wait for others to check out because I'm quite happy with Firefox at the moment.

adya33 · 22nd September 2005, 23:37

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Originally Posted by Steeroid

I know, which is why I did not agree with your post that:

as for extentions
this is where Opera shines
YOU DON'T NEED EXTENTIONS because its already there
Opera even comes with Voice Integration

Being one of those who consciously avoid IE or any other MS product if possible (like MSN which I dont use), I have tried Opera but ultimately settled for Firefox. Almost all of Opera's features are available as extensions and then some...plus, it doesnt quite crash on you the way Opera used to.

LIke I said, lets see how this version is - I'd rather wait for others to check out because I'm quite happy with Firefox at the moment.

ok that was one of the examples if you want to go in details then plenty of such points can be made from both sides.
tehre needs to be generalization at some point
which i did

RX135 · 23rd September 2005, 00:19

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Originally Posted by adya33

you can customize search engines in opera for whatever search engine you want. session sever built in File/sessions/.....
bandwidth tester shown in status bar can be customized to appear on toolbar too

I was just quoting examples. There are hundreds of such extensions, which I often love to browse and pick up for my use. Just wondering, why can't they make Opera extensible like this? Or, may be there is some way which I don't know of.

adya33 · 23rd September 2005, 00:50

@RX135:

go here for your BUG ME NOT functionality in Opera
http://nontroppo.org/wiki/CustomButtons#various

RX135 · 23rd September 2005, 00:55

Thanks Aditya! I'll try my hands on new Opera for few days. Let's see if it can keep me away from FireFox.

adya33 · 10th October 2005, 22:27

I have given an honest try to Mozilla Firefox latest for about two weeks & here are my observations

The good
It does the things Internet Explorer way rather than trying to impliment its own ways (convinient)
The plugin install dialog is way more convinient
I like the way feeds menus are displayed as bookmark folder
When installed it imported all my bookmarks, settings & even cookies with just one click - awsom
Since firefox is no #2 web browser most websites work with it (for two weeks haven't used user agent)
Allow pop-ups from cetain website option is available

The bad
Every time extension or themes are installed you have to restart web browser
Default download location set to desktop
here is my big concern after downloading exe & then opening it gives you message telling about risks involved & it has a option of disabling this notification

Smooth scrolling doesn't mean smooth
Although Tab browsing is advertised as Firefox's main feature it isn't displayed on navigation bar by default
Navigating through history is slower compared to Opera (1.5Beta2 solves this problem)

Outcome
Once setting up Opera is damn good
Lazy people like me would appreciate Firefox

so at the end of the day
IE will still remain my default web browser with Firefox icon in my quick launch bar (at least for now)

using latest stable version of Firefox downloaded from www.getfirefox.com

user agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050919 Firefox/1.0.7

satish_appasani · 10th October 2005, 23:10

I am a pure MS techie. Every s/w I use is MS. I earn my bread and butter on MS Technologies. I wish to see MS Windows logo raising in the east tomorrow morning....:lol

Steeroid · 11th October 2005, 01:20

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Originally Posted by adya33

The bad
Every time extension or themes are installed you have to restart web browser
Default download location set to desktop
here is my big concern after downloading exe & then opening it gives you message telling about risks involved & it has a option of disabling this notification

Although Tab browsing is advertised as Firefox's main feature it isn't displayed on navigation bar by default

1. How many times do you install extensions or themes?

2. Default location for downloads can be set to any place on your PC using preferences and one would imagine that the first thing a user does is customise the preferences.

3. Doesnt Firefox open in tabbed mode by default?

adya33 · 11th October 2005, 07:35

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Originally Posted by Steeroid

1. How many times do you install extensions or themes?

2. Default location for downloads can be set to any place on your PC using preferences and one would imagine that the first thing a user does is customise the preferences.

3. Doesnt Firefox open in tabbed mode by default?

answers
1. pretty often atleast themes
with every new release rolling out every other week extensions are broekn & have to reinstall them

2. I know it can be set to but by default it should ask users & not download on desktop itself

3. nope, as far as I remember "force to open windows in" option is set to "the most recent window/tab"

GTO · 11th October 2005, 10:03

Dudes, need your help.

As a long time Opera fan, I just upgraded to the latest version while doing a clean install of my computer.

Problems!! Its too slow in scrolling up and down pages. Any suggestions, or should I just revert back to the old (but advertisement laden) pages

GTO

adya33 · 11th October 2005, 10:16

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Originally Posted by GTO

Dudes, need your help.

As a long time Opera fan, I just upgraded to the latest version while doing a clean install of my computer.

Problems!! Its too slow in scrolling up and down pages. Any suggestions, or should I just revert back to the old (but advertisement laden) pages

GTO

I have sent you PM (message too short I don't care)

Rtech · 11th October 2005, 10:49

Tried Opera for 2 weeks. It was OK, but I don't see any real advantages over Firefox. And since I'm used to firefox, I guess I'll stick with that.

Only thing I don't like about firefox is the inability to resume downloads.

Steeroid · 11th October 2005, 11:34

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Originally Posted by Rtech

Tried Opera for 2 weeks. It was OK, but I don't see any real advantages over Firefox. And since I'm used to firefox, I guess I'll stick with that.

Only thing I don't like about firefox is the inability to resume downloads.

Hey Rtech I'm trying out the Firefox 1.5 Beta version - its quite good, give it a shot.

typeOnegative · 11th October 2005, 11:46

I have been using Opera for quite a few days now. Not used any other browser. The only issue that I have faced with Opera (and Firefox) is that they do not open to my official mail server as it is heavy on MS stuff (oh how I hate MS. Sorry Satish. And Adya). So it is the official mail on IE, everything else on Opera. The only grouse I have had on Opera vis-a-vis Firefox is that I cannot drag a link to a tab. In Firefox, I could drag a link to either a tab or to the tab lane and voila, there was my new page.

GTO, this is a problem for a few days I think. Had the same problem - got resolved on its own.

23rd September 2005, 00:50	#50
adya33 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 1,839 Thanked: 183 Times	@RX135: go here for your BUG ME NOT functionality in Opera http://nontroppo.org/wiki/CustomButtons#various
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23rd September 2005, 00:55	#51
RX135 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: pune Posts: 2,106 Thanked: 75 Times	Thanks Aditya! I'll try my hands on new Opera for few days. Let's see if it can keep me away from FireFox.
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10th October 2005, 22:27	#52
adya33 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 1,839 Thanked: 183 Times	given a try I have given an honest try to Mozilla Firefox latest for about two weeks & here are my observations The good It does the things Internet Explorer way rather than trying to impliment its own ways (convinient) The plugin install dialog is way more convinient I like the way feeds menus are displayed as bookmark folder When installed it imported all my bookmarks, settings & even cookies with just one click - awsom Since firefox is no #2 web browser most websites work with it (for two weeks haven't used user agent) Allow pop-ups from cetain website option is available The bad Every time extension or themes are installed you have to restart web browser Default download location set to desktop here is my big concern after downloading exe & then opening it gives you message telling about risks involved & it has a option of disabling this notification Smooth scrolling doesn't mean smooth Although Tab browsing is advertised as Firefox's main feature it isn't displayed on navigation bar by default Navigating through history is slower compared to Opera (1.5Beta2 solves this problem) Outcome Once setting up Opera is damn good Lazy people like me would appreciate Firefox so at the end of the day IE will still remain my default web browser with Firefox icon in my quick launch bar (at least for now) using latest stable version of Firefox downloaded from www.getfirefox.com user agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050919 Firefox/1.0.7
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10th October 2005, 23:10	#53
satish_appasani Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,112 Thanked: 104 Times View My Garage	I am a pure MS techie. Every s/w I use is MS. I earn my bread and butter on MS Technologies. I wish to see MS Windows logo raising in the east tomorrow morning....:lol
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11th October 2005, 10:03	#56
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,546 Thanked: 300,767 Times View My Garage	Dudes, need your help. As a long time Opera fan, I just upgraded to the latest version while doing a clean install of my computer. Problems!! Its too slow in scrolling up and down pages. Any suggestions, or should I just revert back to the old (but advertisement laden) pages GTO
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11th October 2005, 10:49	#58
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	Tried Opera for 2 weeks. It was OK, but I don't see any real advantages over Firefox. And since I'm used to firefox, I guess I'll stick with that. Only thing I don't like about firefox is the inability to resume downloads.
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11th October 2005, 11:46	#60
typeOnegative Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vikhroli, Mumbai, India Posts: 1,503 Thanked: 27 Times	I have been using Opera for quite a few days now. Not used any other browser. The only issue that I have faced with Opera (and Firefox) is that they do not open to my official mail server as it is heavy on MS stuff (oh how I hate MS. Sorry Satish. And Adya). So it is the official mail on IE, everything else on Opera. The only grouse I have had on Opera vis-a-vis Firefox is that I cannot drag a link to a tab. In Firefox, I could drag a link to either a tab or to the tab lane and voila, there was my new page. GTO, this is a problem for a few days I think. Had the same problem - got resolved on its own.
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