Of horses humbling man (me). And of God's Grace.

supremeBaleno · 3rd December 2007, 14:43

Thanks, guys. Even after 2 days, I still keep thinking of that night. Will take some time to overcome it, I guess.

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Originally Posted by BlackPearl

have you been able to understand why the car did not start or why you were not able to push it? by any chance did you have the hand brake lever slightly pulled?

Well, we discussed this incident during the tbhp-meet on Sat. And one point that came up was that maybe the ECU cut off fuel, though I am not sure why it would do that.

As far as pushing the car goes, I think it might have been just my frame of mind at that point. Believe me, those swerves were too scary.

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Originally Posted by BlackPearl

it is very strange that it happened in a baleno which can maintain its poise quite well at such speeds.

Well, all cars have their limit. Anyway, for all the car's deficiencies (slim tyres etc), I would think the major blame lay with me - ie the nut behind the wheel.

BlackPearl · 3rd December 2007, 14:53

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Originally Posted by supremeBaleno

And one point that came up was that maybe the ECU cut off fuel, though I am not sure why it would do that.

why would the ECU cut off fuel unless there is an accident? or maybe it does because of reasons not clear to me.

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As far as pushing the car goes, I think it might have been just my frame of mind at that point. Believe me, those swerves were too scary.

Well, all cars have their limit. Anyway, for all the car's deficiencies (slim tyres etc), I would think the major blame lay with me - ie the nut behind the wheel.

no amount of rubber is going to be sufficient unless one knows their limits. it is good that you have come to know the limits of the stock ones

. all you need to forget that night is to go out again and do some high speed runs albeit more cautiously and at daytime on the GQ

. IMO the more you ponder the more it will get scary.

Shan2nu · 3rd December 2007, 14:58

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Well, we discussed this incident during the tbhp-meet on Sat. And one point that came up was that maybe the ECU cut off fuel, though I am not sure why it would do that.

This is very much possible. When you try n make quick steering adjustments at high speeds, the G forces created at that point, can caused the fuel in the tank to temporarily move away from the point where it gets sucked in by the fuel pump.

Wolf had to come in early during his track day session coz he kept complaining that every time he tried to take a corner, the engine kept losing power. So, for the next session, i filled 500 bucks worth of fuel and didn't face any probs.

But this can only happen if the fuel level is nearing empty.

Shan2nu

BlackPearl · 3rd December 2007, 15:04

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Originally Posted by Shan2nu

But this can only happen if the fuel level is nearing empty.

true, this happened to me once in my friend's baleno but the fuel level in that was well below the red mark. hope that was not the case with SB.

supremeBaleno · 3rd December 2007, 15:18

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Originally Posted by bottle

imo this particular stretch is as good as gq and probably safer in the fact that you dont have cows and bikes suddenly facing you.

Exactly. The 2 kms of straight long road, does not have even one intersection, the streets are lighted well, the road is awesome. All being reasons for my weekend hobby.

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Originally Posted by BlackPearl

no amount of rubber is going to be sufficient unless one knows their limits. it is good that you have come to know the limits of the stock ones

True. And I have always known the limit of the stock tyres. It is good enough for normal driving, even hi-speed driving on the straights, but the moment you try to do stuff like what I did, the limits show.

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Originally Posted by BlackPearl

true, this happened to me once in my friend's baleno but the fuel level in that was well below the red mark. hope that was not the case with SB.

I had 1/4 tank fuel in the car.

WhiteKnight · 3rd December 2007, 15:28

Good to hear that both of you folks came out without a scratch.
As the saying goes
"There are only two type of pilots- One who did landing without landing gear, and others who are yet to land without landing gear".

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Originally Posted by supremeBaleno

Well, we discussed this incident during the tbhp-meet on Sat. And one point that came up was that maybe the ECU cut off fuel, though I am not sure why it would do that.

Could this happen if you hit the rev limit?

BlackPearl · 3rd December 2007, 15:30

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Originally Posted by supremeBaleno

True. And I have always known the limit of the stock tyres. It is good enough for normal driving, even hi-speed driving on the straights, but the moment you try to do stuff like what I did, the limits show.

hmmm.. I will have to be more careful as mine are still running on the same stock tires.

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I had 1/4 tank fuel in the car.

then that option is also not valid. strange, what might have gone wrong then. its particularly concerning because this might happen irrespective of what tires one is running and may affect the ones who tend to push even more because they have wider tires.

supremeBaleno · 3rd December 2007, 15:53

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Originally Posted by WhiteKnight

Could this happen if you hit the rev limit?

If you are asking whether a fuel cut-off could happen on hitting the rev-limit, yes it will - atleast I know it will on the Baleno. Have had the fuel supply cut-off by the ECU whenever I have hit the rev-limiter.

BlackPearl · 3rd December 2007, 16:02

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Originally Posted by supremeBaleno

If you are asking whether a fuel cut-off could happen on hitting the rev-limit, yes it will - atleast I know it will on the Baleno. Have had the fuel supply cut-off by the ECU whenever I have hit the rev-limiter.

AFAIK limiters do not cut off the fuel supply, but control the electrical inputs to the spark plugs. Gurus will be able to throw further light on this.

suman · 3rd December 2007, 16:10

SB, glad to hear that you are OK, it was real scary reading your narrative, it could have been fatal man! Take care & change the weekend hobby - knocking back a few pegs sitting at home is a lot safer mate

Jay · 3rd December 2007, 16:16

Good to know that no damage was caused, but i would suggest you not to try out such stunts and put your life and others life at risk... whats surprising is that you swerved so much that the car almost lost control.

I agree with what Condor has said...

Take care my friend, Drive safe.

Vinaygv · 3rd December 2007, 16:18

What you describe is as close to a Scandinavian flick as you can get, that is the maneuver that is use to get the car sideways and set it up for a drift, you are lucky that you did not go into a spin, the most likely culprit is the soft suspension and the stock tires the don't like violent weight transfers. Thank God that you and the car are alright.

speedmiester · 3rd December 2007, 16:21

That is one scary experience, good to know everything and everyone was alright in the end.

supremeBaleno · 3rd December 2007, 16:30

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Originally Posted by suman

Take care & change the weekend hobby - knocking back a few pegs sitting at home is a lot safer mate

Thanks, suman. Yes, since I told about this incident to my wife, the hobby is bound to end. And yes, downed a few pegs on Sat with chennai tbhp-ians - did help in getting over this (atleast partly).

vkochar · 3rd December 2007, 16:30

Whew !! That was a close call.

Our cars are built for a certain drivability. If we test its max - it is going to punish us.

I tried redlining the Corrolla once in 2nd & 3rd gear going at speeds of over 140 kph, the car just coul not be controlled.

Its best to drive it normally.

It's good to know you came out unhurt and so did yr car. Cheers !!

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suman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 4,589 Thanked: 279 Times View My Garage	SB, glad to hear that you are OK, it was real scary reading your narrative, it could have been fatal man! Take care & change the weekend hobby - knocking back a few pegs sitting at home is a lot safer mate
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Jay BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 819 Thanked: 8 Times	Good to know that no damage was caused, but i would suggest you not to try out such stunts and put your life and others life at risk... whats surprising is that you swerved so much that the car almost lost control. I agree with what Condor has said... Take care my friend, Drive safe. Last edited by Jay : 3rd December 2007 at 16:18.
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Vinaygv BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 84 Thanked: Once	What you describe is as close to a Scandinavian flick as you can get, that is the maneuver that is use to get the car sideways and set it up for a drift, you are lucky that you did not go into a spin, the most likely culprit is the soft suspension and the stock tires the don't like violent weight transfers. Thank God that you and the car are alright.
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speedmiester Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 2,387 Thanked: 6,631 Times	That is one scary experience, good to know everything and everyone was alright in the end.
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3rd December 2007, 16:30	#30
vkochar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Delhi / Agra / London Posts: 2,146 Thanked: 819 Times View My Garage	Whew !! That was a close call. Our cars are built for a certain drivability. If we test its max - it is going to punish us. I tried redlining the Corrolla once in 2nd & 3rd gear going at speeds of over 140 kph, the car just coul not be controlled. Its best to drive it normally. It's good to know you came out unhurt and so did yr car. Cheers !!
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