Child safety issues and Solutions

sreenidhibr · 15th February 2008, 11:40

Last evening, I saw a lady driving a two wheeler with a boy seated at the back. The boy appeared to be about 6-8 years of age. The thing that worried me is that not only was the boy seated facing backwards, but he seemed to be playing some kind of imaginary game and thereby both his hands were in the air. He was not holding on

Isn't this a recipe for disaster or what? What would happen if the lady swerves and the boy loses his balance? I know kids are very stubborn sometimes, but at least parents should assert themselves when it is a matter of safety.

Perhaps we can discuss child safety issues and solutions in this thread.

VJ_MAVRICK · 15th February 2008, 11:45

A majority of 2 wheeler riders don't even have the minimum common sense that they are having a lady or kids in the pillion and not only jeopardize their lives but also others as well. Be it the safety ensured while seated and also while on the move they are just not bothered and ride obliviously.
I still don't get why some people are so aversive to maintain some basic safety standards, is it ignorance,arrogance or negligence and i fail to understand.

spadival · 15th February 2008, 11:48

I have seem parents pushing baby strollers on road like it was some push cart !! Forget about the safety aspect, what about all the pollution that these 1 year old kids have to breath in !

I have also seen parents teaching their kids on how to ride their bicycles on public roads which have sizable amount of traffic zipping by !!

Rocky_Balboa · 15th February 2008, 12:08

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Originally Posted by spadival

Forget about the safety aspect, what about all the pollution that these 1 year old kids have to breath in !

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Thad E Ginathom · 15th February 2008, 12:12

There is no conception of safety. It is common to see families of four or five on a two-wheeler here, none of them wearing helmets even. The most dangerous common site is the baby in the mother's arm. Someone told me yesterday that they had just seen a man holding a child in one arm and driving with the other.

Perhaps these people will say that, at "city speeds" it is safe. They have no idea.

deepak_ms · 15th February 2008, 12:23

solution for this is TATA NANO

suvi · 15th February 2008, 12:38

one 100CC Bike. Father driving with Helmet. first son (8yr old approx) sitting in the front with head bent (of course no helmet) to enable his father see. Mother with Saree (with both legs on the left side of the bike) has the second son (4-5 yrs old). None of them other than Father has Helmet.
Welcome to Namma Bengaluru

spadival · 15th February 2008, 12:41

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Originally Posted by deepak_ms

solution for this is TATA NANO

Actually, According to Ratan Tata, the inspiration for Tata Nano was all this !!

Torqy · 15th February 2008, 13:03

Why only two wheelers?

You can see Well Dressed (unfortunately educated) guys / gals driving with their little ones on the lap. That's a sure recipe for disaster.

-- Torqy

anonymous · 15th February 2008, 13:44

I think biggest question is, do they have any other option??
A person, who can't afford a car, has to use bike/scooter for commuting and driving them specially in big cities are always very dengerous. The public trasponrt in most cities are not reliable.

linuxtechie · 15th February 2008, 14:15

Well tell me bout it... I had even once asked a "highly intellect" lady about the same. Her answer was "mind my own business".

Well I am doing so forth now.

Thad E Ginathom · 15th February 2008, 14:16

You can say this about any country in the world.

Public transport in London, for instance, is very expensive. In rural UK it can be effectively non-existant. That does not result in families on two-wheelers; the law would not allow it anyway.

The options are: to expose oneself and one's family to such risk --- or not. Of course there is an option.

druva · 15th February 2008, 14:24

sad to see the thread and a similar news at same time.
The Hindu : Front Page : Accident costs school student his leg

a crackdown on all traffic violations is required. automated traffic cameras, fine collection system ONLY will bring some sense of order. Nano or not, this chaos will continue unless rules are implemented with a firm hand

Surprise · 15th February 2008, 21:51

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Originally Posted by anonymous

I think biggest question is, do they have any other option??
A person, who can't afford a car, has to use bike/scooter for commuting and driving them specially in big cities are always very dengerous. The public trasponrt in most cities are not reliable.

I agree with that 100%. They know its not safer, but don't have any other option other than taking a chance. Whether its worth it or not is a separate topic

My cousin brother, who stays 10 kms away from my place, visits my parents, everyweekends for the past 5-6 yrs. It was with his wife and 3 yrs old kid then. Now the kid has grown to 8-9 yrs and still he continue doing that. He wanted to continue that as far as he can manage.

Prevention is better than cure. But alternative options............

Nitin · 15th February 2008, 22:03

Lets hope that this is where the Nano will kick in. Reduce the number of bikes/scooters,and save a few lives.

Something that was in practice 25-30 years ago,still exists. People haven't become smarter,or more aware of the ways they might get injured.They just keep doing,what they've seen being done for ages.

15th February 2008, 11:40	#1
sreenidhibr BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 119 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	Child safety issues and Solutions Last evening, I saw a lady driving a two wheeler with a boy seated at the back. The boy appeared to be about 6-8 years of age. The thing that worried me is that not only was the boy seated facing backwards, but he seemed to be playing some kind of imaginary game and thereby both his hands were in the air. He was not holding on Isn't this a recipe for disaster or what? What would happen if the lady swerves and the boy loses his balance? I know kids are very stubborn sometimes, but at least parents should assert themselves when it is a matter of safety. Perhaps we can discuss child safety issues and solutions in this thread. Last edited by sreenidhibr : 15th February 2008 at 11:42.
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15th February 2008, 11:45	#2
VJ_MAVRICK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,239 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	A majority of 2 wheeler riders don't even have the minimum common sense that they are having a lady or kids in the pillion and not only jeopardize their lives but also others as well. Be it the safety ensured while seated and also while on the move they are just not bothered and ride obliviously. I still don't get why some people are so aversive to maintain some basic safety standards, is it ignorance,arrogance or negligence and i fail to understand.
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15th February 2008, 11:48	#3
spadival Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,772 Thanked: 29 Times View My Garage	I have seem parents pushing baby strollers on road like it was some push cart !! Forget about the safety aspect, what about all the pollution that these 1 year old kids have to breath in ! I have also seen parents teaching their kids on how to ride their bicycles on public roads which have sizable amount of traffic zipping by !!
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15th February 2008, 12:12	#5
Thad E Ginathom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 11,442 Thanked: 30,022 Times	There is no conception of safety. It is common to see families of four or five on a two-wheeler here, none of them wearing helmets even. The most dangerous common site is the baby in the mother's arm. Someone told me yesterday that they had just seen a man holding a child in one arm and driving with the other. Perhaps these people will say that, at "city speeds" it is safe. They have no idea.
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15th February 2008, 12:23	#6
deepak_ms BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: KA55 / KA50 Posts: 195 Thanked: 6 Times	solution for this is TATA NANO
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15th February 2008, 12:38	#7
suvi BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 122 Thanked: 6 Times	one 100CC Bike. Father driving with Helmet. first son (8yr old approx) sitting in the front with head bent (of course no helmet) to enable his father see. Mother with Saree (with both legs on the left side of the bike) has the second son (4-5 yrs old). None of them other than Father has Helmet. Welcome to Namma Bengaluru
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15th February 2008, 13:03	#9
Torqy BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 967 Thanked: 244 Times	Why only two wheelers? You can see Well Dressed (unfortunately educated) guys / gals driving with their little ones on the lap. That's a sure recipe for disaster. -- Torqy
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15th February 2008, 13:44	#10
anonymous BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NCR Posts: 564 Thanked: 26 Times	I think biggest question is, do they have any other option?? A person, who can't afford a car, has to use bike/scooter for commuting and driving them specially in big cities are always very dengerous. The public trasponrt in most cities are not reliable.
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15th February 2008, 14:15	#11
linuxtechie BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 50 Thanked: 2 Times	Well tell me bout it... I had even once asked a "highly intellect" lady about the same. Her answer was "mind my own business". Well I am doing so forth now.
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15th February 2008, 14:16	#12
Thad E Ginathom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 11,442 Thanked: 30,022 Times	You can say this about any country in the world. Public transport in London, for instance, is very expensive. In rural UK it can be effectively non-existant. That does not result in families on two-wheelers; the law would not allow it anyway. The options are: to expose oneself and one's family to such risk --- or not. Of course there is an option.
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15th February 2008, 14:24	#13
druva BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 313 Thanked: 37 Times	sad to see the thread and a similar news at same time. The Hindu : Front Page : Accident costs school student his leg a crackdown on all traffic violations is required. automated traffic cameras, fine collection system ONLY will bring some sense of order. Nano or not, this chaos will continue unless rules are implemented with a firm hand
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15th February 2008, 22:03	#15
Nitin Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,294 Thanked: 22 Times View My Garage	Lets hope that this is where the Nano will kick in. Reduce the number of bikes/scooters,and save a few lives. Something that was in practice 25-30 years ago,still exists. People haven't become smarter,or more aware of the ways they might get injured.They just keep doing,what they've seen being done for ages.
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