Denied petrol in bottle after my car ran out.

quickdraw · 23rd March 2010, 21:31

This is absolutely insane. My car ran out of petrol for the first time ever. Its was all fun and games at that time, left a couple of friends in the car because I knew the pump was not far, just took a rickshaw to the nearest pump to discover that they will not sell petrol to me. Tried 3 more pumps. Tried asking the COPS to help me, they absolutely refused and suggested that I either push my car to the pump or abandon it till daytime (this was at 4AM).

I want to discuss this with everyone why does this rule exist? Who made this rule? And its more then obvious if anyone wants petrol they can source it easily. And the only thing I think it would be good for (in form of a weapon) is molotov cocktail or something, but wouldn't it just be easier for the petrol terrorists to buy a bottle of cheap whiskey instead? This is insane.

I am seriously considering a RTI.

genesis · 23rd March 2010, 21:38

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Originally Posted by quickdraw

This is absolutely insane. My car ran out of petrol for the first time ever. Its was all fun and games at that time, left a couple of friends in the car because I knew the pump was not far, just took a rickshaw to the nearest pump to discover that they will not sell petrol to me. Tried 3 more pumps. Tried asking the COPS to help me, they absolutely refused and suggested that I either push my car to the pump or abandon it till daytime (this was at 4AM).

I want to discuss this with everyone why does this rule exist? Who made this rule? And its more then obvious if anyone wants petrol they can source it easily. And the only thing I think it would be good for (in form of a weapon) is molotov cocktail or something, but wouldn't it just be easier for the petrol terrorists to buy a bottle of cheap whiskey instead? This is insane.

I am seriously considering a RTI.

It has something to do with hoarding of petrol and selling in black market.
A friend of mine had a similar situation. A good samaritan biker, offered to fill his own tank with petrol and gave my friend a ride back to his car, where they used a pipe to transfer petrol. The guy said he had been stuck before and someone helped him in a similar fashion.
Did not take any money!

quickdraw · 23rd March 2010, 21:41

Yes I essentially ended up with this nice man helping me out with his Bike but this is insane, what illegal selling of petrol in the black market? And would people buy it in bisleri bottles at 4 AM to make a profit over a litre? It doesnt make any sense.

kannan666 · 23rd March 2010, 21:50

Unfortunately, it also implies that you can still hoard petrol and sell it in the black market if you have access to / the use of a car or bike !

sachinj12 · 23rd March 2010, 21:51

Heck never heard of this rule. This is absolutely ridiculous. All the more reason to keep your at least half full.

And, thank god you were with your friends and not family.

Guna · 23rd March 2010, 21:59

I never knew about this rule. My brother always keeps a can filled with petrol back in my native palce as the petrol bunks are far away.

rkbharat · 23rd March 2010, 22:05

Not sure in Banglore, but nothing like this here in NCR, I regularly buy Petrol in jerrycan for my generator

Thad E Ginathom · 23rd March 2010, 22:11

You will find this rule strictly enforced in UK, but it is because petrol can only be purchased in an approved container --- which the he petrol station will, of course, sell you!

condor · 23rd March 2010, 22:17

@Quickdraw, IIRC there is a rule that says you can buy petrol only in approved containers - i.e, Jerrycans made for storing fuel.

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genesis

: It has something to do with hoarding of petrol and selling in black market.

@genesis : hoarding how much - a bottle of petrol ?

Live To Jive · 23rd March 2010, 22:18

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Originally Posted by genesis

It has something to do with hoarding of petrol and selling in black market.

We have this rule in Goa for the same reason. However if you show your RC they have to give you petrol in a bottle or can. It's 4 litres for a Car and 1 litre for a bike. I'm sure the same rule has to be applicable all over India. Even if it is not just tell the pump guy that you are entitled to it as per rule number so and so, sub paragraph 3.2 etc etc or whatever you can think off.

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Originally Posted by rkbharat

Not sure in Banglore, but nothing like this here in NCR, I regularly buy Petrol in jerrycan for my generator

Not sure about this as most of the Generators in Goa run on diesel and you can buy as much diesel as you like in a can. (people use 200 litre drums to transport diesel to trawlers and locations where generators are installed).

akshay4587 · 23rd March 2010, 22:27

strange
were u carrying glass bottle?

darklord · 23rd March 2010, 22:28

I think it has to do with the law and order situation. The town where I studied used to be a communal hot spot. Whenever there was an incident, the cops used to issue directives to the pumps not to dispense petrol in containers. You are located in Pune? If so, I guess, the recent blasts might be the reason.

There is not much logic in that line of reasoning of the police, though.

sdp1975 · 23rd March 2010, 22:42

I think it's to due to the fact that petrol can be used to make petrol bombs, can be used in arson and looting etc - not really from a hoarding perspective.

I've been given petrol though in a bisleri bottle in Bangalore.

Captain Slow · 23rd March 2010, 22:48

In Bangalore only shell wont give you petrol in bottles.
Other bunks usually give. My friends bike ran out of fuel once and I had taken a pepsi bottle to a near by bunk. They filled it up without any problems.

HammerHead · 23rd March 2010, 23:06

@ Live To Jive I never heard such a rule in Goa. In fact I have seen tourists bikes running out of petrol and they somehow manage to reach petrol pump and come back with petrol in 1 ltr bottle!!

Apart from that petrol is commonly available in Goa, people keep petrol in mineral water bottles for sale

@quickdraw, buddy did you ask them in local language? Believe me it does make lot of difference

23rd March 2010, 21:31	#1
quickdraw Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,286 Thanked: 2,695 Times View My Garage	Denied petrol in bottle after my car ran out. This is absolutely insane. My car ran out of petrol for the first time ever. Its was all fun and games at that time, left a couple of friends in the car because I knew the pump was not far, just took a rickshaw to the nearest pump to discover that they will not sell petrol to me. Tried 3 more pumps. Tried asking the COPS to help me, they absolutely refused and suggested that I either push my car to the pump or abandon it till daytime (this was at 4AM). I want to discuss this with everyone why does this rule exist? Who made this rule? And its more then obvious if anyone wants petrol they can source it easily. And the only thing I think it would be good for (in form of a weapon) is molotov cocktail or something, but wouldn't it just be easier for the petrol terrorists to buy a bottle of cheap whiskey instead? This is insane. I am seriously considering a RTI.
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23rd March 2010, 21:41	#3
quickdraw Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,286 Thanked: 2,695 Times View My Garage	Yes I essentially ended up with this nice man helping me out with his Bike but this is insane, what illegal selling of petrol in the black market? And would people buy it in bisleri bottles at 4 AM to make a profit over a litre? It doesnt make any sense.
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23rd March 2010, 21:50	#4
kannan666 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: KA-02 Posts: 1,002 Thanked: 128 Times View My Garage	Unfortunately, it also implies that you can still hoard petrol and sell it in the black market if you have access to / the use of a car or bike ! Last edited by kannan666 : 23rd March 2010 at 21:53.
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23rd March 2010, 21:51	#5
sachinj12 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,187 Thanked: 168 Times	Heck never heard of this rule. This is absolutely ridiculous. All the more reason to keep your at least half full. And, thank god you were with your friends and not family.
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23rd March 2010, 21:59	#6
Guna Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,012 Thanked: 4,204 Times	I never knew about this rule. My brother always keeps a can filled with petrol back in my native palce as the petrol bunks are far away.
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23rd March 2010, 22:05	#7
rkbharat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Gurgaon/New Delhi Posts: 1,601 Thanked: 724 Times View My Garage	Not sure in Banglore, but nothing like this here in NCR, I regularly buy Petrol in jerrycan for my generator
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23rd March 2010, 22:11	#8
Thad E Ginathom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 11,005 Thanked: 26,447 Times	You will find this rule strictly enforced in UK, but it is because petrol can only be purchased in an approved container --- which the he petrol station will, of course, sell you!
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23rd March 2010, 22:27	#11
akshay4587 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chandigarh/Mohali/Ambala Cantt Posts: 4,151 Thanked: 4,525 Times View My Garage	strange were u carrying glass bottle?
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23rd March 2010, 22:28	#12
darklord BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: TVM (KL-16) Posts: 743 Thanked: 3,112 Times View My Garage	I think it has to do with the law and order situation. The town where I studied used to be a communal hot spot. Whenever there was an incident, the cops used to issue directives to the pumps not to dispense petrol in containers. You are located in Pune? If so, I guess, the recent blasts might be the reason. There is not much logic in that line of reasoning of the police, though.
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23rd March 2010, 22:42	#13
sdp1975 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,700 Thanked: 1,273 Times View My Garage	I think it's to due to the fact that petrol can be used to make petrol bombs, can be used in arson and looting etc - not really from a hoarding perspective. I've been given petrol though in a bisleri bottle in Bangalore.
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23rd March 2010, 22:48	#14
Captain Slow Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,549 Thanked: 1,957 Times	In Bangalore only shell wont give you petrol in bottles. Other bunks usually give. My friends bike ran out of fuel once and I had taken a pepsi bottle to a near by bunk. They filled it up without any problems.
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23rd March 2010, 23:06	#15
HammerHead Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Goan in Pune Posts: 1,247 Thanked: 641 Times View My Garage	@ Live To Jive I never heard such a rule in Goa. In fact I have seen tourists bikes running out of petrol and they somehow manage to reach petrol pump and come back with petrol in 1 ltr bottle!! Apart from that petrol is commonly available in Goa, people keep petrol in mineral water bottles for sale @quickdraw, buddy did you ask them in local language? Believe me it does make lot of difference
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