[Shubz]

Originally Posted by Odeen12

Woah? That's absurd. The dealership seems to be lazy. It's ridiculous to expect the customer to pay upfront for parts and later follow up with the insurance company for claims. Replacement parts are expensive. This will put a dent in your pocket, which shouldn't be the case as insurance does provide cashless options. The dealer needs to be pulled up by owners for this.

Oh tell me about it! I did try my best with ICICI Lombard when with Tusker Harley. Its entirely up to the dealer to opt for the cashless feature which all insurance providers provide.

The dealers don't want their monies blocked. But are happy to have customers money blocked.

I had to pay initially towards the repair charges for my AW and had to wait out for the pay out from ICICI

We HD owners tried a few circus to get them to opt for the cashless feature. and all we got was a "thats a good feedback, we shall consider that for future" which at that time meant -- Now shut up and pay up if you want your bike back!

[Odeen12]

Originally Posted by Shubz

Oh tell me about it! I did try my best with ICICI Lombard when with Tusker Harley. Its entirely up to the dealer to opt for the cashless feature which all insurance providers provide.



The dealers don't want their monies blocked. But are happy to have customers money blocked.



I had to pay initially towards the repair charges for my AW and had to wait out for the pay out from ICICI



We HD owners tried a few circus to get them to opt for the cashless feature. and all we got was a "thats a good feedback, we shall consider that for future" which at that time meant -- Now shut up and pay up if you want your bike back!

That's absolutely rubbish. The dealer runs a business and should factor these contingencies. Irrespective of how his cash flows.
Bills run upwards of a lacs in many cases. And putting that kind of money aside is quite ridiculous.
Dealers take it for granted and get the better of a customers excitement to purchase motorcycle. Do these guys make it clear before you make the purchase or drop that bombshell when the need arises?

[techfreak]

Few pages back someone was enquiring about SHAD luggage for Versys. Motoziel is the SHAD authrorised dealer in India, but no product is available yet. Had enquired with them shall be available around May 2016, pricing not clear as yet.
Personally I liked the SHAD ones to be better looking and moreover the attachment system I think will give little more protection to the rear when the panniers are not attached compared to nothing being there and SHAD 3P attachment system is not ugly like SW Motech/Hepco Becker or some other systems that I have come across though they may be giving a more purposeful TOURER look !!

[Red Liner]

Originally Posted by techfreak

Few pages back someone was enquiring about SHAD luggage for Versys. Motoziel is the SHAD authrorised dealer in India, but no product is available yet.

That would be me. The shad 35 (is that the one) is what interests me, semi rigid luggage bags with the rack. Comes with the lock, isn't heavy and is waterproof! Can fit two full size helmets in each side! Very sleek and nice compared to alu panniers. Pretty sure it will cost a bomb though.

Am in Delhi and I plan to meet with the Motoziel guys, heard from one of the boys over at the accessories thread that they advertised many products at the auto show like bark busters at very down to earth prices.
Let me see if I can get a full list of what they will sell and try and put it up here...

[Shubz]

Originally Posted by Odeen12

That's absolutely rubbish. The dealer runs a business and should factor these contingencies. Irrespective of how his cash flows.
Bills run upwards of a lacs in many cases. And putting that kind of money aside is quite ridiculous.
Dealers take it for granted and get the better of a customers excitement to purchase motorcycle. Do these guys make it clear before you make the purchase or drop that bombshell when the need arises?

No they don't make it clear before or during the insurance purchase. it is always sold as "Cashless" and drop the bombshell when (god forbid) you end up with a claim.

Yes, Customers are taken for granted with the "take it or leave it" attitude!

[Jet-thrust]

@nasirkaka, heartiest congratulations !
Wish you many many miles of happy riding.
Do post some pics of the bike.
Waiting for your detailed review.

[mobike008]

Alright. Here goes my update :

Five Versys 650 have been dispatched from Pune early this morning and will be reaching Hyderabad on Thursday night/Friday morning

Out of the 5 crates, dealership offered to unpack 2 bikes on Saturday and I can select from those two bikes

I could have taken the delivery on Saturday but, we don't believe in buying "metal" on Saturday. Hence, it has to be this Sunday, as I am travelling for most of next week !!!

All dealerships are closed on Sundays but, looking at my impatience I was made a sweet offer; they will open the showroom on Sunday morning for an hour (as an exception) and deliver the bike to me. Superb gesture !!!

Question to guys who have already taken delivery and also to the knowledgeable members ?

How to select 1 out of 2 bikes?

[dkaile]

Originally Posted by mobike008

How to select 1 out of 2 bikes?

Congratulations. If they are crate packed, I doubt there will be any difference at all. Just check the tyres on both are identical and that can be the only deciding factor, other things remaining a constant.

Cheers and awaiting detailed ownership thread....

[Dust_Harl]

Good to hear that you are getting your bike this Sunday. Nice gesture from the dealer and many congratulations.

Good question on how to select one of the two. Either toss a coin, or start both and which ever does not make too much vibration / noise, choosing that. This is primarily to avoid situation similar to that of Nasirkaka on any faulty parts or improper PDIs. Mind you both are virgins and will be equally good unless you want to to inspect for small scratches, vibrations etc.

Good to see streets filling up with like minded bikes. We will shortly have our own bandwagon of Versys 650s and may be next year we all can ride together to Goa for IBW. Too early but just a thought.

On the other topic of Kiviraj not offering cashless. Yes it is true and one of my good friend had a small incident with the bike and Kiviraj did not oblige for cashless. While he is still fighting it out there, Kalyani folks confirmed that the insurance I have picked up through them has cashless and they do honor the same. So for anyone buying their Versys bikes in Bangalore, it is better to go through Kalyani. You pay 2K less, get cashless option and amazing service by the store manager Prakash there.

You would not believe the follow-up from Kalyani even after delivery. One of their executive from Kalyani group called and verified on my satisfaction level and checked if there were any pending stuff from the dealer.

I should say they have continued to amaze me on their customer satisfaction both on four as well as two wheelers.

Also, for those who are eager to get their hands on Versys and awaiting delivery, there is one available in Kalyani and it seems he can deliver as quick as tomorrow if the financial part is taken care

[vprabu]

Originally Posted by mobike008

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How to select 1 out of 2 bikes?

Congratulations and all the best. Check the VIN numbers and choose the fancier one.

[nasirkaka]

@nasirkaka, heartiest congratulations !
Wish you many many miles of happy riding.
Do post some pics of the bike.
Waiting for your detailed review.

Thanks
have hardly taken pics to share. Will try and do so with a better camera this weekend and share pics. The bike catches dust so fast.

Been using it to ride to office, 50 kms to and fro with mix of high traffic and open roads. Speedo reads around 250+ kms. Am getting used to the height and weight. Its a breeze to ride it on sparsely populated road, but on crowded stretches the height and weight plays on mind. Maybe, i am too used to my 390, and would take a while to get accustomed to the dimensions of baby versys.
A few new observations:
The front number plate started vibrating with a high pitch buzzz at around 3K RPM. have fixed it temporarily bu tying a thread around it. Will get the number plate removed and put a sticker type number on the visor.
The left side RVM got loose. have adjusted and tightened it.
The Visor creates a disturbance, esp in B2B traffic where is difficult to judge the distance from the vehicle in front. The disturbance comes from refraction through the plastic, dust collected on it due to static, light reflection from surrounding. Not really and issue, may require getting used to it. The front shocks dives greatly when brakes, i guess its set too soft. Plus side is very plush ride over broken roads, but may require some some adjustments to achieve the right balance.
So far very happy with the bike. feels like one is not riding but driving.

EDIT: got the 3M ppf (paint protection film) done for the tank. Not a big fan of those screaming tank pads, and very satisfied with PPF on my 390 tank, so got it done for versys too. Costs around 2.4+K at Autoservice, Banashankari.
Have to seriously start looking for some protectors, guards, sliders, etc.

[navin_v8]

Originally Posted by mobike008

Out of the 5 crates, dealership offered to unpack 2 bikes on Saturday and I can select from those two bikes

Question to guys who have already taken delivery and also to the knowledgeable members ?

How to select 1 out of 2 bikes?

Mate first of all let your brain take control away from your heart when you visually inspect the bike. The adrenaline and excitement that comes from the heart needs to be in check by one's brain while carrying out a PDI especially when it comes to selecting one's bike from multiple other bikes which are identical.

You can create your own PDI as you still have time(go online and check out the initial ownership reports of those who have bought it) before your Versys650 is delivered on Sunday. Case in point the buzzing sound from the speedo console as it was touching some part in nasirkaka's Versys650. Use your hawk eye to inspect the body, windshield, tyres, foot pegs, lights, mag wheels(v12's observation of poor finishing of mag wheels on his Kawasaki Z800), brake and gear pedals, clutch lever play, accelerator springing back to its position after turning, underbelly exhaust, seat inspection(I missed the minor tear on my Tbird500's backrest cushion cover due to overexcitement but thanks to RE they replaced the cushion), fairing for any scratches or hairline cracks(although very unlikely), rear view mirror adjustment, fenders for scratches, headlight, Instrument Cluster, etc.

If possible take a friend along as 4 pairs of eyes are better than two.

All the best for your Versys650 delivery mate.

[mobike008]

Originally Posted by dkaile

Congratulations. If they are crate packed, I doubt there will be any difference at all. Just check the tyres on both are identical and that can be the only deciding factor, other things remaining a constant.

Originally Posted by Dust_Harl

start both and which ever does not make too much vibration / noise, choosing that. This is primarily to avoid situation similar to that of Nasirkaka on any faulty parts or improper PDIs. Mind you both are virgins and will be equally good unless you want to to inspect for small scratches, vibrations etc.

Originally Posted by vprabu

Congratulations and all the best. Check the VIN numbers and choose the fancier one.

Thank you guys!! Appreciate your good wishes and helpful inputs

Originally Posted by Dust_Harl

Good to see streets filling up with like minded bikes. We will shortly have our own bandwagon of Versys 650s and may be next year we all can ride together to Goa for IBW. Too early but just a thought.

Well, I will not be part of any mass affair, that's not my style at all. Never been to Rider Mania and to IBW and don't think will be participating anytime soon in future as well....I love to ride in small group of friends than join a jatra (festival)

Reckon there are many folks who think like me.

Don't miss reading this blog and video at the end. Sorry about the profanity but, I think it drives the point home quite well

http://riderzone.in/curious-case-india-bike-week/

I'm told Akhil is a rather nice chap and unlike his blog

Originally Posted by nasirkaka

So far very happy with the bike. feels like one is not riding but driving.

Nice to read this comment. Can you please elaborate as to what you mean?

How is the heat in B2B traffic?

Originally Posted by navin_v8

Use your hawk eye to inspect the body, windshield, tyres, foot pegs, lights, mag wheels(v12's observation of poor finishing of mag wheels on his Kawasaki Z800), brake and gear pedals, clutch lever play, accelerator springing back to its position after turning, underbelly exhaust, seat inspection(I missed the minor tear on my Tbird500's backrest cushion cover due to overexcitement but thanks to RE they replaced the cushion), fairing for any scratches or hairline cracks(although very unlikely), rear view mirror adjustment, fenders for scratches, headlight, Instrument Cluster, etc.

Woah! That's a long list. Thanks will check them all out. It was actually a rhetorical question about PDI as I normally do a quick scan of the automotive that I am purchasing and leave rest to god ( 14+ new purchases in a little over decade was same style) and it did me only good

This will be just another new purchase and hope will keep me as happy as other purchases that I made in the past.....

Originally Posted by navin_v8

If possible take a friend along as 4 pairs of eyes are better than two

You bet! This is certainly going to happen !!!

[Vasuki]

Which is better buy Z800 or Versys650, dilemma!! Help needed.

+ ve's for Z800

Bigger engine, more powerful, better acceleration.
Slipper clutch
Better road tyres

+ ve's for Versys 650

Better GC
OTR is 1.5 lakhs less.
Better mileage thus more range
Better accessories for carrying luggage

Z800 owners can provide better perspective. Thanks

[n_aditya]

Originally Posted by Vasuki

Which is better buy Z800 or Versys650, dilemma!! Help needed.

+ ve's for Z800

Bigger engine, more powerful, better acceleration.
Slipper clutch
Better road tyres

+ ve's for Versys 650

Better GC
OTR is 1.5 lakhs less.
Better mileage thus more range
Better accessories for carrying luggage

Z800 owners can provide better perspective. Thanks

Both are very capable bikes when it comes to touring. A friend of mine rode all the way from Pune to Bangalore on his Z800 last year and continued to Munnar, Kodai and many other places.

Most often, its the rider and not the bike that lacks fitness or potential. Don't get me wrong. I don't mean any offence.

Both have their + and - points as you listed.

I would suggest you ride both and choose the one that connects with your heart.