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You might want to get in touch with the person. I see a Forester every day parked below my building here in Mumbai. It looks to be in excellent shape and at times I have flirted with the idea of making an offer to the owner. However, the thought of buying a used car in India scares me a little. Also, Spare Parts could be a worry with Forester. | |
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I have recounted elsewhere how difficult it was in my Scorpio once or twice, when its RWD simply couldnt find enough traction to climb up a steep incline with a loose surface and / or wet grass. Once or twice while going forward and uphill and once or twice while trying to reverse out uphill! Much much better to have a 4WD in such situations or if one has only a 2WD better to avoid such adventures! | |
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In your position living in Mumbai I would consider buying Forester for what it offers, excellent SUV, reliable and fairly efficient engine, and availability of import spares there. But you cannot use it as your regular car, and you will need patience to maintain it, get a good workshop who know how to handle this car, there are plenty in Mumbai (not in Bangalore), use it for 1-1.5 yrs and move on. For what price you get it for you will get full value from it. Do not get scared when buying used, its a good opportunity to experience good cars for a fraction of the cost, no worry of high depreciation. Just make sure you do not buy in a hurry, do your homework well, once you get the right car do not hesitate paying a little more for that peace of mind. Quote:
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() If you like mountains and forests, sooner or later you start craving for a 4X4. I did some trails in my Indica and then in my SX4, but nowadays with a 4X4 big SUV there is a lot more freedom to go anywhere and do anything e.g. climb to a hill and then put up a tent on top of it. Pretty handy in Nilgiris where most estates have a few interesting but '4WD-needed' trails. My 4WD also helped me in the night when I was running for my life after coming across a bull elephant in the night (distance of 5 feet, turned the vehicle and there it was standing beside the trail and reaching towards me). I couldn't have scooted like that if I didn't have a 4WD. |
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Edit: RWD cars or heavy bikes (which are RWD as well), should be parking in reverse when parking downhill. Owning a suzuki C50 has taught me that. This is of course, assuming that the lower ground has enough traction. If the lower ground has loose surface, don't park there at all. GC and weight is not as important here. The same weight that pulls you down also gives traction to the wheels. If anything, you should have tried seating two people on the front bonnet to gain traction under front wheels ![]() Last edited by vivekiny2k : 1st March 2012 at 20:45. | |
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| ![]() Love this thread. Most of the benefits, disadvantages, checks and balances of the different types of drives have already been discussed here in detail, so I do not have much to add to it from a technical perspective. I've lived in a snow belt for over 14 winters now (driving front wheel drive vehicles for the most of those 14). My neighbor drives a 7 series BMW, a rear wheel driven vehicle, on his daily commute of ~80 miles. He swears the car doesn't go wrong on him whether we get dumped a foot of snow overnight or whether we have rain, sleet or black ice on the freeways. To be honest, 99% of the time a 4WD/AWD system is an overkill unless a difficult terrain and/or bad weather are regular features of your drive. However, if you wish to make the best of the remaining 1% - when mother nature or grandmother earth throws something really nasty at you, AND, if you can justify/absorb the considerable chunk of money you will pay more for an AWD to insure against that unexpected 1%, then go for it. Let us also not forget the false sense of immunity and security that a 4WD can offer. 4WD does not make you or your vehicle an all terrain military battletank. Sense and sensibility should be foremost regardless of whether you are in a RWD or a FWD or an AWD/4WD. Like HVK and other stalwarts here say, if you have the patience and the skill, a two wheel drive can get you almost anywhere you wish. It is sad (and funny) to see more 4WD SUV's veer into ditches and run off highway shoulders than others, whenever there is a snowstorm in my part of the world. |
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From what I gathered from a SA in Sundaram motors (who serviced both Forester and Opel Astra), it is really difficult to get some parts for Astra, because parts are not produced any more by Opel (third party vendors may make it). But in case of Forester, parts for even older models are made by Subaru as well as numerous third party vendors. |
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| ![]() Talking about Forester, I see this every day just outside the building that I live in. And how many times have I thought of leaving my business card with a message ("Would you be interested to sell this to me?") on the windshield of this car. This one has absolutely no estate-kinda-looks and those bumper-claddings topped with fog lights and wheels give it a pretty aggressive stance. ![]() |
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| ![]() I read through this very informative thread. I am (was) planning to buy a 4x4 Safari (Used) or a Jeep (Thar/used MM540/550) later this year. The idea was to use it as a weekend getaway vehicle and also a long in planning trip from Pune to the North/North East. Sometimes to office as well! But on reading through I feel that a 4x4 will make sense only if I am planning on Hard core offroading. Then I have the following thoughts. 1 - Will it be cheaper to buy a 4x2 and fit a Winch for when I do manage to get stuck? 2 - Any other option? The gurus can please help me with this. (Note) : I bought a used jeep recently which is in the process of being restored. But half way through, having other thoughts, need something reliable. |
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The price difference between 2WD and 4WD is around 100,000.00 INR for entry level SUVs. Let me ask you something. Have you gotten stuck so far? 95% of 2WD SUVs go to 99% places, around the country, successfully. Look at Leh/NE/RJ and you will find tons of Innovas, Taveras and Scorpios doing the rounds on 99% of the roads/trails, so you essentially do not need 4WD for that occcasional trail that you intend to take. Coming to your NE trip, a TBHP Laura has been to Tawang and back, successfully. It is a combination of driving skills and vehicle knowledge that is most important. ![]() | |
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Regarding the Laura exp., well that helps satisfy me to a great extent. I completely agree to the driving skills part. However I intend to go off the beaten track where possible and so was thinking in terms of an SUV with Winch. I am sure the NE has a lot of winch anchor points ![]() And yes, in all my softroading experience, we ( his SUV) has almost never got stuck anywhere. | |
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