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BHPian ![]() | ![]() Here is a completely different perspective. In at least 2 occasions, I feel that it would have been real difficult to come out without 4wd. Both inside Bangalore city. I own a 4x4 TCIC safari with a bull bar, which increases the turning radius. In the first instance, I had to take 90 degrees left to a steep incline to come out of the parking lot. The incline was close to 40-50 degrees (higher for the second instance). The car just could not climb the slope from standstill (I had to come to a standstill after taking the turn). However, when I engaged 4L 1st, the car came out easily. In another instance, I used 4H on a beach. It definitely makes the car more stable. Now if I have to climb a steep incline (road or parking), I simply put it to 4L 1st and the car moves easily without any half clutch. So I would say a 4wd is definitely better in such instances. |
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40-50 degree incline(and even higher in second instance!) at the parking lot, you sure about this? How would cars like Nano/other cars driven by learners or ladies climb this out in a public parking? |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() You need to experience this to believe this. I am not sure who on earth could create a design like that. On top of that the 'roof' of the place where you turn from immediately before the incline is so low that my safari roof rails scrapped cement and I had to back up. This is a hotel in Richmond road. Normally they have valet parking I guess but I make sure whenever I go to a hotel I park myself. For small cars they would have an edge as they could gain momentum before turning. Because of huge turning radius of my car, and the height of the roof, that is not possible for me and I have to start from stand-still. Last edited by sumannandy : 24th March 2012 at 07:07. |
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Another question is, is it safe to use 4L on a concrete surface (I know Safari has rear LSD so it must be fine) | |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() Well, it could be little lesser, but my car usually climbs slopes upto 35 degrees on its own without requiring 4L. Whatever it was, it was scary. Anybody going to the hotel in Richmond Road Bangalore would be advised to check the parking lot first (it is the first hotel on your left if you take a left on RichMond Road while travelling from Forum). It was a straight climb, so I guess it was safe to use 4L even if it was concrete. |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() What is the tyre size on the old Forester? Is it possible at all that it may be the same as the stock ones on the new Yeti? Guna - maybe you can help answer this? Thanks! Quote:
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The Forester came with a very odd size as stock - 205/70 R15. The Yeti comes with 215/60 R16. Why do you ask? |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() I saw that pic of the old forester with some mean and purposeful looking tyres on it. I have a Yeti whose OEM tyres are not that tough - they are more for highway/ road driving than for off road or bad roads. And it is very tough to get a replacement set of tougher tyres in the same size spec as the Yeti OEM ones. I thought perhaps the Forester may have come with a similar spec and thats why I wanted to know. If I remember right the Fusion came with 195/65 or 70 / 15 spec tyres which are also not useful in my case. I still have plenty of life in my tyres as they are only 4 months old now but there is no harm in doing ones research earlier rather than later. |
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| ![]() I did some kind of "off roading" in my Fortuner today. The road was totally dug up and littered with man holes about 150mm high. I had absolute confidence that i would manage to cross that road. Friends said that such a road would be impossible to manoeuvre. I would say that having 4wd and high ground clearance does give you great confidence in such a situation. Last edited by Gannu_1 : 9th February 2019 at 05:48. Reason: T-Fort > Fortuner. |
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| ![]() In the market for a Fortuner, unable to decide between 4x4 or 4x2 AT. Truth be told, looking at the Fortuner for its looks. We have been using the INNOVA and also a Crysta for a long time and never really felt the need for an AWD or 4x4 but still the price difference amongst the two is very teasing, it’s the preventive maintenance and cost of regular use that are bothering me. Please advice. Last edited by Gannu_1 : 9th February 2019 at 05:49. Reason: T Fort > Fortuner. Please use full names of vehicles instead of user made acronyms. Thanks. |
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1. Preventive maintenance for the 4wd specific additional components will not really be a material factor given a typical ownership term of around 10 years, if you stick to the service schedule, and you don't grossly abuse the vehicle. It's only beyond that when you might need to invest in preventive maintenance. 2. Reactive maintenance may be required for the additional components if you subject it to regular and heavy abuse, but it's not easy to abuse a Toyota. 3. A heavy ladder frame SUV is significantly handicapped without a 4wd, so the additional money is very well worth it. | |
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Thank you Roy_libran. It would be Lovely if the owner of the Current generation Fortuner with 4x2 AT could reflect on this or any other Ladder on Frame SUV owners using the 4x2 version. |
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I am in the 7th year with my 4x2 Safari Storme, and have been all around the country with it. I have literally moved the household over 3 city transfers and the Safari has been my loyal companion over many a family trips. Looking for an upgrade, the only two requirements for my next car are 4x4 and AT. So much so that, if my Storme was a 4wd AT, I would not even look for a change and flog it further. Here are my comments quoted from my SUV shoot out for my next upgrade hunt. Quote:
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