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Mahindra XUV300 | 139 | 22.86% | |
Maruti Vitara Brezza | 20 | 3.29% | |
Tata Nexon | 186 | 30.59% | |
Ford EcoSport | 227 | 37.34% | |
Honda WR-V | 8 | 1.32% | |
Other (please specify in your post) | 28 | 4.61% | |
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8th October 2020, 20:36 | #121 | |||||
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Thank you Wheelguy. My first post as in a first new thread! I liked the way people received me at the Mahindra showroom. Although my sales rep had limited experience on cars, he was all for a long drive and called me to book my TD. He was very open with understanding my requirements and also was open to making changes to the insurance and other accessories. Thank you for sharing the status on Hyundai ASS. Looks like XUV scores pretty well given the points. Quote:
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8th October 2020, 20:49 | #122 | |
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| Re: Which car - XUV300 or Hyundai Venue Quote:
Sorry for the , but have you ever driven a XUV 300? I guess not, so here's a drag video by autocar. The XUV's petrol is FAR superior to the Venue 1.0, its just that the Venue gets that super-nice DCT, while the XUV gets a pathetic AMT. But in manuals, the XUV 300 is the car to get. | |
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17th October 2020, 12:30 | #123 |
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| Re: Mahindra XUV300 vs the competition
A close friend is in this boat of choosing a compact SUV / crossover with no specific fuel choice. His budget is 11 Lakhs and I have been suggesting XUV 3OO for him. Probably extending his budget a bit more he can get a higher variant. I did not recommend Ecosport because the sales and service centers are shutting down rather than increasing. In Mumbai, we have only one service center at Kalina and rest all in the outskirts of Mumbai. We are confused between XUV 3OO, Nexon, Sonet or to extend the budget handsomely to get the Thar. He already owns a 2017 Dzire VXI which is his daily drive and is very reliable. Suggest to clear us out from this confusion. Purpose is a FTD second car with occasional highway drives to Gujrat. Last edited by VWAllstar : 17th October 2020 at 12:31. |
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2nd February 2021, 14:25 | #124 |
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| Diesel Automatic for 15L Hello friends, I need your help with the new car purchase decision. We are upgrading from a Swift ZDi. We also keep our cars really long, almost 10 years and most of the time, there will be two adults and a small child in the car. We do plenty of road trips and a lot of it involves mountain / highway driving. Some of the fundamentals we are working with, Budget of 15L (max, cannot be stretched) on road (will be buying from Chandigarh so road tax is 6% plus have 50% NCB from previous car) Diesel and Automatic Crossover / SUV, no sedans or hatchbacks - be able to see the bonnet Relatively safe, I believe handling plays a strong part in this aspect in addition to build quality and safety features Must have Android Auto and Cruise Control Powerful headlamps, preferably HID projectors (can be upgraded if not present) Affordable, reliable and somewhat honest after sales service (hard to come by) We have test driven and rejected the following cars, Tata Nexon - rejected due to hatchback like feel on the inside and AMT was a bit jerky Mahindra Thar - rejected due to very bumpy ride quality, not confidence inspiring at high speeds Kia Sonet - found it small, didn’t feel like much of an upgrade from Swift in terms of space, except that it sits higher. Moreover, founds the seats to be small; the side bolstering would mess with my shoulder blades The two cars that we liked are, Kia Seltos HTK+ Diesel AT - loved the diesel engine and transmission combo. I am neutral on the rest of the car, nothing against it as such. Manual AC will be a downgrade but I think that’s a trade off we are willing to make as I usually never fiddle with the temperature a lot and leave it just one setting each for winters and summers. I am reading a lot about stiff ride quality but I couldn’t feel it as much during the test drive as it was on fairly good roads. How bad it is really? For example, we found the ride quality of 5th gen Honda City good but that’s not a contender. How does it compare to the new Honda City or XUV300 in terms of ride quality? This doesn’t have ISOFIX either (which we would like to have) but I guess it can be retrofitted. I am also hearing not so good ASS stories for Kia so that’s another issue in my mind. Mahindra XUV300 Diesel AMT W8 Optional - for about one lacs less, we could get a fully feature loaded car. It has a lot of good to have features such as better crash safety, sunroof, auto IRVM, leatherette seats etc. The AMT wasn’t bad at all and something I could easily live with. In fact, I drive under 60 mph within city and pick up speed slowly and for highways, I can always use the manual mode. I also liked the ride quality. The real issue is boot space. Since we travel a lot and like to pack a ton of stuff, this may be an issue. We usually use cabin sized bags to travel and Seltos’s boot is deep but not much tall and well XUV300’s boot seemed a tad taller but not that deep. However, I believe in both of the cars, I will have to remove the parcel tray during our road trips. I am super confused on which one to get. I have already booked Seltos and will be getting delivery in 20 days and XUV300 can also be had in about 10 days. Pls help! Last edited by zzzehar : 2nd February 2021 at 14:33. |
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2nd February 2021, 14:33 | #125 |
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I don't think you can see the bonnet in most of the crossovers. Why is this a requirement at all - better to get used to driving a car without seeing how long the bonnet extends to. Last edited by clevermax : 2nd February 2021 at 14:34. |
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2nd February 2021, 14:38 | #126 |
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My wife is a new driver and would like this option to be there. If it isn't a deal breaker, what can you suggest in my budget? |
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2nd February 2021, 14:39 | #127 |
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| Re: Diesel Automatic for 15L I can see bonnet edge in xuv300. I am not sure about Seltos as never tried it. I chose xuv300 w8 O AMT based on its much higher safety credentials and for me boot space not an issue. I booked in December last week, awaiting delivery |
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2nd February 2021, 15:44 | #128 |
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| Re: Diesel Automatic for 15L Seltos is the best choice given all your requirements only if you're okay with the 3 star GNCAP rating of Seltos, which is largely the only fly in the ointment of otherwise a well packaged product. HTK+ variant in D AT has a seat height adjust which should enable the driver to see the bonnet. In Chandigarh, it may well fall within your budget. There are only very limited options in your budget for the diesel + automatic cars. The other option is Creta. Kia service is pretty consistent in my personal experience and so far happy with it though we keep hearing one or the other horrid stories but then it's not limited to one brand alone. The highlight of Seltos is it's driving dynamics, it's high speed stability and cornering prowess is top notch for cross over standards. If you enjoy driving, Seltos is the one for you. Please do opt for the maximum extended warranty available. And stay away from AMTs, you'll start to hate driving. Good luck. Cheers, bibendum. Last edited by Bibendum90949 : 2nd February 2021 at 15:58. |
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2nd February 2021, 15:56 | #129 | |
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| Re: Diesel Automatic for 15L Quote:
2. For safety, I am sure you are aware that Seltos barely scored 3 stars with very small margin above 2 stars. XUV300 is clear winner here, with 7 air bags and general safety. 3. Diesel AT in Seltos is amazing. The XUV 300 engine is absolutely smashing, but AMT feels jerky. The driving comfort (suspension) of Seltos is far harder than XUV300. In Seltos, I could feel every change in road surface, whereas XUV300 gulps down most of the bumps in road. 4. The boot space is definitely a decision breaking factor against XUV300. Boot is just so small. It is good if you can use roof top carriers, but in stock form it is very small, especially compared to 4m+ cars. Additionally, you can test drive Creta's corresponding versions that fall in your budget. Last edited by ani_meher : 2nd February 2021 at 15:58. | |
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2nd February 2021, 16:10 | #130 |
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| Re: Diesel Automatic for 15L Why the preference for diesel, if I may ask? If you choose petrol you may get some interesting choices like Creta/Seltos IVT, Magnite CVT, Duster CVT. All of them have essential safety features, and then some (Duster has ESP).From a 10 year ownership perspective, a petrol AT will perhaps serve you better. The AMT is arguably at the bottom of the pile as far as AT's go, especially for relatively heavier vehicles. |
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2nd February 2021, 17:57 | #131 |
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Let me add Ford Eco Sport in Titanium Plus variant too to the list. A TC gearbox, ESC and six airbags makes it a compelling buy. It's still a looker though it's one of the oldest cars in the segment. It may not have the extensive feature list of a Seltos, Sonet or Creta but the basics and safety are pretty well covered. The telematics and ICE part(sans Android Auto/Apple Car play which is a big miss though) to an extent is taken care too unlike it's previous version. Icing on the cake is it's a driver's car. Last edited by Bibendum90949 : 2nd February 2021 at 18:17. |
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2nd February 2021, 22:47 | #132 |
BHPian | Re: Diesel Automatic for 15L I will try to give you some additional perspective, when upgrading I would look for following areas of focus
If I were in your shoes at this junction 1 year earlier then Duster AWD would be the best recommendation, ticking all of the above except in terms of features (and 3 star NCAP same as Seltos). On present day, if you can live with lesser expectation on features then the new Duster is still a great option ticking most of the above boxes. Remember its the Drive train and Space that matter more in future since these are what you primarily buy a car for. Going by above, the base model for XUV500 would be merely 60,000 more than your budget and would be an immense upgrade. But of course there are news of newer model next gen model which you must take into consideration while deciding. Same applies for Scorpio and if you want to get spoiled with space TUV300 would have been great option too on top of being smaller wheelbase and RWD making it better combination for hills. Finally, Maruti XL6 (although not in diesel) and Brezza should also be on your list for consideration as they are practical and the later on coming with good NCAP too. Last edited by haisaikat : 2nd February 2021 at 22:51. |
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| Re: Diesel Automatic for 15L I’d suggest the XUV300 over the Seltos given its safety rating. The fact that you undertake frequent road trips would make safety of paramount importance. Alternatively the Ford Ecosport is a good option. |
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| Hi All, As the thread title suggests I have started looking for a car that can serve me for long term. I will share the background and my thoughts here so please take your time to read it through and suggest on points I may be missing or not getting correct. Background - I am a 29 year young guy from Bhopal [Madhya Pradesh], got married last year to my college friend of 8 years. I have two wheeler riding experience of almost 12 years now, However I have only recently started driving four wheelers so you can consider me as a starter for car driving. The reason for this huge gap between two wheeler and four wheeler experience is simply because I either wasn't having a four wheeler or didn't feel the need when four wheeler was available. However with age and now increasing travel needs learning and having a car has become priority. I have purchased a Celerio Zxi (O) AGS in 2018, (review for which is still waiting in the Assembly Line) Celerio serves as the primary car for family purpose however with whole family moving to Bhopal (I was previously working in Pune) now Celerio is not able to satisfy all the use cases for a large family. So what I am looking for is a car with following thoughts in mind - Use Cases -
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Budget - I am looking at a range of 12-15L OTR although can stretch a bit if there is an exceptional car but not by much. Time of Purchase - Anywhere between November 2021 to May 2022 with key point being that it does not make sense to pay interest to bank for a car that is sitting in the parking lot. __________________________________________________ _____________ Options Considered -With the above points in mind I have done 1st round screening of the possible options and shortlisted what I feel are the cars I should test drive, I will walk them through one by one manufacturer wise. Maruti - The only possible Maruti cars which were anywhere near my requirements were
Hyundai/Kia - I used to love Hyunday especially the original Santro however with there latest grand focus on Safety, my experience with their showroom staff and their ignorant service centres I am going to keep these two away with a barge pole, the only Hyundai car that made sense for me is Tucson but it resides in a altogether different price bracket. Tata - Went to Tata dealership with clear eyes on Nexon but I don't know what pot Tata is smoking from as to how they can price Nexon top variant at 15L OTR (higher that XUV300 which is safer and has whole lot more features) is beyond me, In my honest opinion Nexon at 13.5L OTR is a good deal, not a single rupee higher. Add to that the ever persistent Tata dealership and service woes and I decided to pass on Nexon. Also the headroom in front seats was not adequate for me. Renault - Checked both Kiger and Duster, Duster is simply too outdated and expensive now for what it offers, AWD Duster would have been a consideration. Kiger is in one word "Smart" and VFM for sure. Nissan - Having checked Kiger I decided to skip Magnite as Nissan service is poor in my city as compared to Renault which is in itself not great. Honda - Checked WR-V as well as City and both of them I liked. Ford - Checked Freestyle, Aspire and Ecosport. I like Ford cars and the value they offer. Mahindra - Checked XUV300, Marazzo, Bolero, Thar
Skoda/VAG group - Having heard the horror stories of dealerships milking customers after warranty period I have decided to stay clear. Pre-owned market ? - Considering that this car will be in a way first car for me and wifey we have decided to not consider anything pre-owned. Options Liked -After much deliberation wife and I have shortlisted the below options as per ranking
Outsider options - Bolero Neo/TUV300 - Definitely most rugged option in this price range but in other areas it may lack, still worth a test drive I feel. Also I am hearing of TUV300 Plus also launching soon. For now it feels the battle will primarily be between Ecosport and XUV300, I would be taking test drive of Ecosport, XUV300, WR-V, City(for the fun ) and Bolero Neo. I would like to hear from our wonderful on what are the things or options I may have missed as well as things to look out during test drive and things that can't be checked in test drive as well. I am open to all suggestions |
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