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I heard back from Honda today; their response is that based on their check, the gearbox does need to be replaced. They did mention something about a pressure check in relation to gear changes and supposedly that confirmed that the gearbox replacement was required.
They went on to say that the gearbox, including the torque converter needs to be changed, and that the spare parts alone would approximately come to 3.5 lakhs. This excludes labor and taxes. Assuming I choose to go ahead with it, the parts will be ordered and will come from Noida. The time estimate is 1.5 to 2 months.
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Originally Posted by ACM Auto Gearboxes are very sensitive to quality of Oil and Oil Levels and this could also be due to incorrect oil level or a dirty transmission oil filter- which the Service centre has mentioned they will check first.
If indeed a component in the Gearbox has failed it will as mentioned by them be quite expensive.
A much cheaper alternative would be to look in the Car breaker yard in your town for a second hand part. You could have your local mechanic start off on checking for that and if found then take back the vehicle from the ASS and get the local mechanic to fix the second hand part. |
Thanks ACM.
I have spoken to a mechanic who has said that he will check on this. In fact, as I suggested it, he said that looking for a second hand part was his first thought/intention as well. He has asked for some time, and will get back to me on this.
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Originally Posted by akshay1234 Accord v6's are known to have tranny issues, though that was mainly on 2004/5 accords. Do you have an aggressive driving style, and do you put it into N at signals? Im not too optimistic about this buddy. |
Hi Akshay, thanks for your note. I remember following your detailed and fun thread on your V6 a while ago. Was quite the source of inspiration.
From my reading online I came across some transmission issues on the pre 2003/2004 Accords; so my guess was the 6th gen Accord. This is the first i'm hearing of 2004/2005.
My daily drive is fairly passive, and I usually always put it into N at the signals. During the occasional late nights and road-trips I will admit that I drive with a heavy foot, in a more aggressive manner.
I agree that I am not feeling very optimistic about this.
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Originally Posted by pranavt Drain and refill fluid.
Clean the lock-up solenoid valve filters.
Change the oil filter.
You will have a better chance asking about this on international Accord (driveaccord or v6performance) forums. This isn't a rare issue either. As much as the members might know about AT gearboxes here, you need specific instructions, or else the dealership or your mechanic will make you sell your car. |
Thanks pranavt. I will talk to Honda again tomorrow to check on whether any of this has been done. If not, I will ask that they do it. The car was sent for general service recently; will look through the paperwork to see if oil filter was changed.
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Originally Posted by VeyronSuperSprt Here's what you need to do:
1. First check whether the D sign blinks on the dashboard when the problem happens.
2. If it does, you're in luck because the problem will most likely be sorted out with changing of the oils and re-calibration of the gearbox (without opening it up) with the pressure gauges used for this purpose.
3. If the problem is minor, change of the engine oils and re-calibration would solve the issue. If it doesn't the next step would be to open up the gearbox to check what is wrong.
4. It is very unlikely that your torque convertor will have a problem. They very seldom do. |
Thanks for the detailed instructions VeyronSuperSprt.
Though the car isn't with me to check right now, I can confirm that the D green light on the dash was not blinking. When this problem surfaced I was desperately looking for indications or differences on the console and everything was normal. Was specifically observing the gear change light indication.
I would like to think that the torque convertor does not need to be replaced. From my experience with Sundaram Honda and Capital Honda in Chennai, for any small problem they just suggest changing everything that might be related or connected. A friend of mine with a 2.4 Accord who had a power-steering hose leak was asked to change the power steering motor and all related components. The total estimate was 1.32 lakhs and he finally replaced the cracked hose for around 4-6k. Thus my apprehensions with this exorbitant replacement suggestions from Honda (though they maybe fair).
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Originally Posted by ajmat Auto's dont have clutches. I would start with refilling the fluids, then consider the valves. Auto boxes do not go so early unless heavily abused or the engine has been modded extensively |
Thanks Ajmat. There have been no engine mods whatsoever, and with the exception of some occasional spirited driving, my daily drive has been quite passive. The only source of ambiguity is that I purchased this car used in 2010. The service adviser at Honda who I inquired with at the time gave me good feedback on the cars history, and the mechanic who checked it signed off.
I will talk to Honda about refilling the fluids and checking the valves.