Quote:
Originally Posted by johannskaria
The whole engine was replaced by Ford under warranty at Kairali Ford.
|
Hi Johann, your thread and support was quite helpful, now I think for the benefit of the readers I am sharing my experience as well with the Ecosport - given that both our cars fall into the same batch of 2013.
Now running on 58K, the ownership so far has been fuss free. Back during the summers this year - and since my XUV5OO had engine compression issues, I started tracking the dipstick quite regularly and one fine day I noticed that the oil levels are not so great. My last service was on August 2017, and I took my car right to the Kairali Ford Quicklane service center to top up the engine oil. The SA confirmed that the oil levels are pretty low and have nothing to fear - even though I had to top it by about 2 Litres.
After about another 300 KM I could not notice any variation but took my car to the Kairali Ford main service center at Cheranellore, Kochi where I know the Service Head and has been taking care of my car so far. Since I had topped up recently they could not find any external leaks / issues and had by 60K service done with changing Oil Filter / Air Filter etc This was in May this year.
Soon after my service I upgraded my GY Assurance (GY has been terrible tyres to ride on so far) to Yokohama Earth 1s (
Link )
I had to travel out of country for about 3 weeks in June and when I got back, I though I would just check the fuel levels on the dipstick again as I had a lot fo drives - short and long before the trip and I could not get time to check the dipstick in between.
Almost half the dipstick had gone down, and my brother-in-law notified me of blue smoke one day. Quickly took it to the Service Center again and the SH told me what he suspects - my car being the one among 2013 batch he said he would need my car dropped down here for a detailed diagnostics to confirm. As the rains here are super heavy now the service center had more than 10-12 flood damaged Figo / Aspire waiting engine work - he asked me to wait for a week to drop the car here.
Meanwhile, just to test the decarbonising I experimented that as well. My post on that as well
Link 2
I dropped my car at the service center last Monday 23rd July, and waited for the team to do the diagnostics. Meanwhile, I got in touch with johannskaria through this link to learn more about his experience, his confidence and support and of course the assurances from the SH to help me get some goodwill assistance made me leave the car to the disposal of Kairali and gain some patience to get things sorted.
Engine Compression
After settling some of the engine replacements I had their best techs (according to the SH) work on my car. They had in mind that the culprit would be the pistons / rings and they checked for any other symptoms on turbo, EGR etc and started with the compression tests. I was also there when they did both the Wet and Dry tests and the readings of Cylinder 2 and Cylinder 3 on dry runs were tad too low below athe accepted level of 14. They were 11 and 12 respectively.
As advised by the SH, I gave the consent to go ahead with opening the head to narrow down the issue at the block / pistons / bore.
Bore / Piston / Piston Rings
In two days they starting checking the readings of Rings and Bore at the shoulders and middle and especially on cylinder two the bore on the shoulder was out of the company spec recommended level. The rings on both the cylinder is also out of the recommended specification.
I had given a fee hand to the SH and I know his expertise in handling the issue, he even recollected reading johannskaria's thread on tbhp on the same issue and he told be about the issue with 2013 engines.
Whats with 2013 TDCi engines of the Ecosport?
Even though the SH did not disclose any particular detail on the same, he told me that Ford had shared a list of suspected VIN numbers to each dealer based on the seller of those VIN numbers. They had been advised to notify when these cars are at the SS and like johannskaria here - they would replace the engines with some logic behind. I think the logic depends on the KMs on the Odo - so it would be less the km on the ODO with the damage more likely are they to get replaced, unlike me. They still need to diagnose and may not get the whole thing for free.
So with Ford they had a good number of cars in the suspect list and others in the same year of manufacture were being watched on. The SH felt that I will get some goodwill given that I fall in the same year.
2013 Ecosport's had some issue with the engine and were more likely to show premature damage on the engine - this is my inference (no science)
Solution
I was advised that the solution is the replacement of Short Block Assembly, unlike Mahindra who told me it would be an overhaul.
They placed the order for the Short Block assembly with all mandatory replacements the very next day. It takes about 3-4 days for these items to reach Cochin, from Chennai - including the payments / approvals etc.
From what I learned from the SH they would then submit this as a detailed report with reading, photographs, diagnostics, service history etc right across to Ford for claiming goodwill assistance.
All this was two days back 30th August.
Replacement Car for temporary use
Kairali Ford has now provided me with a replacement car - Ford Aspire Titanium (ex test drive for sure) till I get my car back.
Good News
Even though the whole process is a bit tense and is sure to give you sleepless nights - coz its your car lying there at the garage awaiting a heart surgery, I got a call - some hours back from the SH about the response from Ford.
Ford has assured to provide goodwill assistance for the whole process, and they shall provide the Short Block Assembly - which would roughly be about Rs. 42,000 /- free of cost. Which means I may only have to pay for the other consumable and labour - which according to the SH should fall within 20-25 K. Yeah, a bit relaxed now - and sure that this would help my plans of owning the car for longer.
Based on the recommendation by the SH, I am also getting my clutch replaced with the exercise as it would save some labor cost here. It seems, the upgraded Ecosport right after my 2013 came with softer ones on par with the Aspire I drive now.
Shall update on the progress.
Thanks so much Johann - once again.