1.3L Engine swap in Zen? EDIT : Now complete

nitrous · 9th December 2006, 18:32

If I were u, 185/50/R14 with better brakes is what i'd get.

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why doesnt anyone talk of fitting the mpfi esteem engine???everyone talks of only carb engines...as the carb esteem engine made around 65 bhp ....thats only 5 bhp more than a mpfi zen engine.so ,wont it make better sense to fit a mpfi zen engine instead of a carb esteem engine.

MPFi esteem engine costs twice as much as the carb engine.
A 1.3 litre engine will anyday have more torque than a 1.0 litre engine.Check the torque figures and u'll know.

goldsun · 10th December 2006, 06:22

With the SWIFT diesel with 1.6 engine is about to hit the roads, some one may please comment on the idea of swaping 1.3 petrol engine with the 1.6 diesel engine, w.r.t. costs vs benefits.

moralfibre · 10th December 2006, 07:18

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Originally Posted by goldsun

With the SWIFT diesel with 1.6 engine is about to hit the roads, some one may please comment on the idea of swaping 1.3 petrol engine with the 1.6 diesel engine, w.r.t. costs vs benefits.

It wont be a 1.6. It will be the 1.3 Multijet engine.

jesal · 11th December 2006, 00:43

why are we talking swift diesels here again ?

v1p3r · 11th December 2006, 03:30

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Originally Posted by Speedometer

this may be a stupid question for all you experts...

There are no stupid questions, only stupid people.

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Originally Posted by Speedometer

why doesnt anyone talk of fitting the mpfi esteem engine???everyone talks of only carb engines...as the carb esteem engine made around 65 bhp ....thats only 5 bhp more than a mpfi zen engine.so ,wont it make better sense to fit a mpfi zen engine instead of a carb esteem engine.

Vitamin M. It's way cheaper.

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Originally Posted by Speedometer

also ,can a euro 3 ECU from the wagon r be fitted into a euro2 wagonr

Not likely. The EU III engines will have an EGR setup, IMHO, and I'm guessing the wiring harness will differ, and maybe even the ECU itself. But not impossible, if you have enough time and money.

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Originally Posted by Speedometer

lastly,can the swift ECU be fitted into an esteem directly??

No.

jesal · 11th December 2006, 11:11

ok D-day goin to the garage now, more inputs welcome please. fingers crossed. thanks for the replies till now. app. it. will keep updated. stupid thing i got my paintjob done before engine swap but then i had no intentions in the first place. just a sudden shock. pics later.

jesal · 12th December 2006, 17:18

should i really go for esteem transmission or keep the current one. i want this car to be of daily use. and some times ripping thats it ! goin for new discs and is it ok if i use my current brake booster for a while ? also about tyres am being quoted around 4000 per tyre cuz of low profile. 185.45.14. please advise. i am goin for 14 inchers rest profile and width to be decided.

jesal · 13th December 2006, 10:35

bump !!! no inputs !!!

headers · 13th December 2006, 11:49

Hi,
Its better to discuss what needs to be changed with your local guy and then ask the forum for inputs..As each of us would have wanted the setup to be different for our purposes.

Personally..i feel Bigger brakes are a must as well as good footprint..[TYRES]..All the rest can be worked around..Also good tires cost around 4-5K per tyre..U could go in for Tubeless..

Incase of any specific questions..please PM me..

Cheers

jesal · 18th December 2006, 20:42

engine has been started and works well. it is silent as well. doesnt look modded too, so not sure if thats good or bad lol... took 3 days for the entire install and everything. it was overhauled too. lets see the test run tommo.

drpullockaran · 18th December 2006, 23:03

All the tinkering is fine but in one of the threads I read that Jesal intends to use it for daily commute. I wonder how he is going to get it endorsed in the RC book and get the insurance certificate. In case of a accident you could be in for some real trouble.

hmpup.com

Years ago I had contemplated putting in a Carb Mitsubishi engine in the Amby but was dissuaded by the insurance guys. I envy you though for having so much torque in such a feather weight car. Bye and wear your seat belts.

jesal · 18th December 2006, 23:51

it does not look nice a new engine at all. thinking what to do about insurance myself. have to do some jhol.

flipsyde · 19th December 2006, 01:05

hey people how much would it cost to drop a carb esteem engine in my maruti 1000?? and jesal could u please let me know what your planning to do regarding insurance??

jesal · 19th December 2006, 10:44

i guess u can get insured. if people can do it abroad. heck we stay in india man. how difficult can it be. running on 3rd party right now. expires in feb. lets see. i really dint so much. i got up one morning and decided i want a ezen next day bought a engine and rest is history. i am also gettin a new car in 2007 so will ride this only on weekends.....

Boom Shiva · 19th December 2006, 12:20

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Originally Posted by jesal

lets see the test run tommo.

Well? How did it go? We all want to know!

10th December 2006, 06:22	#17
goldsun BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 230 Thanked: 48 Times	With the SWIFT diesel with 1.6 engine is about to hit the roads, some one may please comment on the idea of swaping 1.3 petrol engine with the 1.6 diesel engine, w.r.t. costs vs benefits.
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11th December 2006, 00:43	#19
jesal BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	why are we talking swift diesels here again ?
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11th December 2006, 11:11	#21
jesal BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	ok D-day goin to the garage now, more inputs welcome please. fingers crossed. thanks for the replies till now. app. it. will keep updated. stupid thing i got my paintjob done before engine swap but then i had no intentions in the first place. just a sudden shock. pics later.
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12th December 2006, 17:18	#22
jesal BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	should i really go for esteem transmission or keep the current one. i want this car to be of daily use. and some times ripping thats it ! goin for new discs and is it ok if i use my current brake booster for a while ? also about tyres am being quoted around 4000 per tyre cuz of low profile. 185.45.14. please advise. i am goin for 14 inchers rest profile and width to be decided.
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13th December 2006, 10:35	#23
jesal BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	bump !!! no inputs !!!
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13th December 2006, 11:49	#24
headers Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Greater Chennai Posts: 4,667 Thanked: 559 Times	Hi, Its better to discuss what needs to be changed with your local guy and then ask the forum for inputs..As each of us would have wanted the setup to be different for our purposes. Personally..i feel Bigger brakes are a must as well as good footprint..[TYRES]..All the rest can be worked around..Also good tires cost around 4-5K per tyre..U could go in for Tubeless.. Incase of any specific questions..please PM me.. Cheers
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18th December 2006, 20:42	#25
jesal BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	engine has been started and works well. it is silent as well. doesnt look modded too, so not sure if thats good or bad lol... took 3 days for the entire install and everything. it was overhauled too. lets see the test run tommo.
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18th December 2006, 23:03	#26
drpullockaran BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ERNAKULAM Posts: 962 Thanked: 385 Times	What about the RTO registration? All the tinkering is fine but in one of the threads I read that Jesal intends to use it for daily commute. I wonder how he is going to get it endorsed in the RC book and get the insurance certificate. In case of a accident you could be in for some real trouble. hmpup.com Years ago I had contemplated putting in a Carb Mitsubishi engine in the Amby but was dissuaded by the insurance guys. I envy you though for having so much torque in such a feather weight car. Bye and wear your seat belts.
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18th December 2006, 23:51	#27
jesal BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	it does not look nice a new engine at all. thinking what to do about insurance myself. have to do some jhol.
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19th December 2006, 01:05	#28
flipsyde BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 644 Thanked: 84 Times	hey people how much would it cost to drop a carb esteem engine in my maruti 1000?? and jesal could u please let me know what your planning to do regarding insurance??
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19th December 2006, 10:44	#29
jesal BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	i guess u can get insured. if people can do it abroad. heck we stay in india man. how difficult can it be. running on 3rd party right now. expires in feb. lets see. i really dint so much. i got up one morning and decided i want a ezen next day bought a engine and rest is history. i am also gettin a new car in 2007 so will ride this only on weekends.....
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