traction

pawan · 19th January 2007, 15:17

i had a doubt because the drag also is up coming so why do most drag racers use a fwd car where as during a drag time is of the essence so a rwd would increase traction there by giving some valuable seconds.

GTO · 19th January 2007, 16:31

Pawan

Undoubtedly, RWD cars are easier and quicker to launch. However, there arent too many RWD cars that are cheap and easy to modify.

All the Zens, Hondas, Toyota and Suzuki sedans are FWD. Under the 10 lac bracket, the only RWD cars I can think of are the Tatas, Mahindras, Contessas and some others.

jkdas · 19th January 2007, 16:35

and the old dolphin,Fiats

pawan · 19th January 2007, 16:42

wont the drive train of these cars go in other cars.

Akshay1234 · 19th January 2007, 20:41

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Originally Posted by pawan

wont the drive train of these cars go in other cars.

even if it does youll probably have to change the rear axle.

pawan · 19th January 2007, 22:08

well you have to fit the differential but by slightly modifying the drive train would increase the timing has any one done this.

Rehaan · 19th January 2007, 22:18

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Originally Posted by pawan

wont the drive train of these cars go in other cars.

Other things have to be considered too....

and also check this thread for a bit more info

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v1p3r · 20th January 2007, 00:36

Modifying a bit is not even the start. You will need to cut the shell in places that it was not designed to be cut. You may compromise structural rigidity. Custom mounts will need to be fabricated. Whole lotta headache.

karan561 · 20th January 2007, 12:08

The launch of an RWD is far more superior got to admit that man .......

pawan · 20th January 2007, 12:32

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

Modifying a bit is not even the start. You will need to cut the shell in places that it was not designed to be cut. You may compromise structural rigidity. Custom mounts will need to be fabricated. Whole lotta headache.

you got a point there but have been reading a lot of posts of converted evos so how is that possible seeing that an evo is a awd car and can a rwd system be custom built from everything including the differential.

Sankar · 20th January 2007, 16:26

Yes it's possible on an evo, the tokyo drift evo was 4wd converted to rwd.

But don't compare a car like the evo with our indian cars. On the evo nothing needed to be cut i guess, you just need a different gb/differential which directs all the power to the back wheels instead of splitting it front & back.

chetanhanda · 20th January 2007, 16:44

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Originally Posted by Sankar

Yes it's possible on an evo, the tokyo drift evo was 4wd converted to rwd.

But don't compare a car like the evo with our indian cars. On the evo nothing needed to be cut i guess, you just need a different gb/differential which directs all the power to the back wheels instead of splitting it front & back.

right, even the drift world champion's skyline has been modded to run as RWD.. but these are cars with high budgets...
would be a costly affair to do in india..

Shan2nu · 20th January 2007, 17:32

Hey, wasn't JD Madans FWD Indian Lancer converted to AWD? Or was that an Evo to begin with?

Shan2nu

v1p3r · 20th January 2007, 18:25

Indian Lancers share basic bodyshells with the Evo series. So if you get an Evo kit, it's a cut-paste thing. It's not really as easy as it sounds, but it can be done safely with results that won't disappoint.

To convert an AWD to a RWD is simply a matter of disconnecting the coupling for the front half of the drivetrain.

heelntoe · 21st January 2007, 04:36

here's another thing to mull over. since the engine is oevr the front wheels there will be more weight over them hence in a fwd, there is a chance of hooking up rather than spinning the wheels. i know the weight shifts to the back and such but how do two cars having the same weight over the front wheels compare, one being a front driver and ther other a rear wheel drive?

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GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,534 Thanked: 300,738 Times View My Garage	Pawan Undoubtedly, RWD cars are easier and quicker to launch. However, there arent too many RWD cars that are cheap and easy to modify. All the Zens, Hondas, Toyota and Suzuki sedans are FWD. Under the 10 lac bracket, the only RWD cars I can think of are the Tatas, Mahindras, Contessas and some others.
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v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	Modifying a bit is not even the start. You will need to cut the shell in places that it was not designed to be cut. You may compromise structural rigidity. Custom mounts will need to be fabricated. Whole lotta headache.
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karan561 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 5,068 Thanked: 22,246 Times View My Garage	The launch of an RWD is far more superior got to admit that man .......
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Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,766 Thanked: 9,054 Times	Yes it's possible on an evo, the tokyo drift evo was 4wd converted to rwd. But don't compare a car like the evo with our indian cars. On the evo nothing needed to be cut i guess, you just need a different gb/differential which directs all the power to the back wheels instead of splitting it front & back.
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Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	Hey, wasn't JD Madans FWD Indian Lancer converted to AWD? Or was that an Evo to begin with? Shan2nu
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v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	Indian Lancers share basic bodyshells with the Evo series. So if you get an Evo kit, it's a cut-paste thing. It's not really as easy as it sounds, but it can be done safely with results that won't disappoint. To convert an AWD to a RWD is simply a matter of disconnecting the coupling for the front half of the drivetrain.
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heelntoe BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: navi mumbai Posts: 240 Thanked: Once	here's another thing to mull over. since the engine is oevr the front wheels there will be more weight over them hence in a fwd, there is a chance of hooking up rather than spinning the wheels. i know the weight shifts to the back and such but how do two cars having the same weight over the front wheels compare, one being a front driver and ther other a rear wheel drive?
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