Swift Diesel - excessive engine vibration when Idle. EDIT : Solved by MUL

DieselFan · 28th March 2007, 15:49

I am driving Maruti Swift diesel (VDI) for last 40 days. I have done about 1400 KM and had completed the first service that was due at 1000 KM. The car is excellent (Gives more than 20 KMPL and has great accelaration on 2 to 4 gear), except for one issue -

The engine vibration is excessive for about 1-2 seconds in every 10-15 sec when idling without load (RPM observed is between 800 and 900). This is happening when the engine is warmed up and not observed when cold. This doesn’t happen if there is a load on the vehicle which takes the RPM beyond 950 (Even if I switch on AC at Idle this problem goes away).

The dealer tells me that there has been a similar problem for which Maruti is looking into and they are getting a replacement ECU for the car but the car is drivable. So the dealer adviced me to wait till Maruti comes back with a solution.

Has anyone else observed such a problem? Has Maruti given any solution to this problem?

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pawan_pullarwar · 28th March 2007, 16:10

The same problem I observed when I took test drive of this vehicle. Not at idle but at some RPM it vibrates a lot and noise also increases. But once you cross that RPM or comes below that RPM it goes off and the sound becomes like Petrol engine.

nitrous · 28th March 2007, 16:23

Check engine mounts.
Also, Maruti could have set lower idling RPM for good FE.

DieselFan · 28th March 2007, 20:56

As indicated earlier the vibration is NOT continuous but periodic once every 15 sec and lasts for 1 sec. In Layman terms the engine is Hunting. Engine mounts were not a problem now was idling. Maruti workshop confirmed this.

Jaggu · 28th March 2007, 21:42

how good is the fuel you are using, hope maruti checked your diesel filter also

DieselFan · 29th March 2007, 23:20

I have used Shell Diesel fuel always. Fuel shouldn't be an issue but will take it to the shop and ask them for testing the fuel filter. Any other reasons? Has someone experienced the same problem in this forum?

moralfibre · 30th March 2007, 08:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrous

Also, Maruti could have set lower idling RPM for good FE.

Can this be done? Considering the fact that idling is set by the ECU?

tsk1979 · 30th March 2007, 08:53

Air getting in due to a leak?
Here is something you can look at
Diesel Engine Troubleshooting

Jaggu · 30th March 2007, 10:00

shell diesel, compared to other diesel this was rated low in the forum if i remember correct, try shifting and see

DieselFan · 30th March 2007, 11:57

Which is the best diesel brand available?

There was a question on setting up Idling in the latest models of diesel cars. I tend to believe that ECUs handle this and there is no Manual setup or tune up done.

tadukuttan · 30th March 2007, 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaggu

shell diesel, compared to other diesel this was rated low in the forum if i remember correct, try shifting and see

Shell Diesel is what I use regularly. And it is good. And the only place I used to get better and consistent quality was the IOC on St. Marks road, same side as Bowring Institute. Dont go there anymore, because of the traffic I have to brave to get there.

And about the problem, it is probably a ECU issue? Suggest you speak directly to a Maruti Engineer. These guys keep turning up at authorized service centers, why dont you ask your service adviser when one of those engineers is expected next?

suman · 30th March 2007, 13:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by tadukuttan

And about the problem, it is probably a ECU issue?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DieselFan

The dealer tells me that there has been a similar problem for which Maruti is looking into and they are getting a replacement ECU for the car but the car is drivable.

Sounds like they will replace the ECU............

swathyd · 1st April 2007, 03:30

dear dieselfan,

I had taken a test drive but didnt find this vibration. It was very much refined. Very difficult to tell that it is diesel. In any vehicle after releasing the clutch there will be some vibration. but even that was missing in swift diesel.

DieselFan · 6th April 2007, 22:10

Today I had my car fixed. The problem was indeed in the ECU which was replaced and I have got back my car from the workshop and is running pretty smooth and fine without any issues.

GeekSrik · 15th April 2007, 11:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by DieselFan

Today I had my car fixed. The problem was indeed in the ECU which was replaced and I have got back my car from the workshop and is running pretty smooth and fine without any issues.

Good that you located the problem diesel fan. Each such report has me more worried

. lemme hope that i dont have much issues when i get mine.

28th March 2007, 15:49	#1
DieselFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,584 Thanked: 259 Times	Swift Diesel - excessive engine vibration when Idle. EDIT : Solved by MUL I am driving Maruti Swift diesel (VDI) for last 40 days. I have done about 1400 KM and had completed the first service that was due at 1000 KM. The car is excellent (Gives more than 20 KMPL and has great accelaration on 2 to 4 gear), except for one issue - The engine vibration is excessive for about 1-2 seconds in every 10-15 sec when idling without load (RPM observed is between 800 and 900). This is happening when the engine is warmed up and not observed when cold. This doesn’t happen if there is a load on the vehicle which takes the RPM beyond 950 (Even if I switch on AC at Idle this problem goes away). The dealer tells me that there has been a similar problem for which Maruti is looking into and they are getting a replacement ECU for the car but the car is drivable. So the dealer adviced me to wait till Maruti comes back with a solution. Has anyone else observed such a problem? Has Maruti given any solution to this problem? Note from moderator: Kindly avoid using FONT, SIZE tags Last edited by adya33 : 28th March 2007 at 15:52.
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28th March 2007, 16:10	#2
pawan_pullarwar BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pune - Now in Munich, Germany Posts: 778 Thanked: 129 Times	The same problem I observed when I took test drive of this vehicle. Not at idle but at some RPM it vibrates a lot and noise also increases. But once you cross that RPM or comes below that RPM it goes off and the sound becomes like Petrol engine.
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28th March 2007, 16:23	#3
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Check engine mounts. Also, Maruti could have set lower idling RPM for good FE.
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28th March 2007, 20:56	#4
DieselFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,584 Thanked: 259 Times	As indicated earlier the vibration is NOT continuous but periodic once every 15 sec and lasts for 1 sec. In Layman terms the engine is Hunting. Engine mounts were not a problem now was idling. Maruti workshop confirmed this.
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28th March 2007, 21:42	#5
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	how good is the fuel you are using, hope maruti checked your diesel filter also
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29th March 2007, 23:20	#6
DieselFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,584 Thanked: 259 Times	I have used Shell Diesel fuel always. Fuel shouldn't be an issue but will take it to the shop and ask them for testing the fuel filter. Any other reasons? Has someone experienced the same problem in this forum?
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30th March 2007, 08:53	#8
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	Air getting in due to a leak? Here is something you can look at Diesel Engine Troubleshooting
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30th March 2007, 10:00	#9
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	shell diesel, compared to other diesel this was rated low in the forum if i remember correct, try shifting and see
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30th March 2007, 11:57	#10
DieselFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,584 Thanked: 259 Times	Which is the best diesel brand available? There was a question on setting up Idling in the latest models of diesel cars. I tend to believe that ECUs handle this and there is no Manual setup or tune up done.
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1st April 2007, 03:30	#13
swathyd BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: thiruvananthapuram Posts: 774 Thanked: 25 Times	dear dieselfan, I had taken a test drive but didnt find this vibration. It was very much refined. Very difficult to tell that it is diesel. In any vehicle after releasing the clutch there will be some vibration. but even that was missing in swift diesel.
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6th April 2007, 22:10	#14
DieselFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,584 Thanked: 259 Times	Problem solved Today I had my car fixed. The problem was indeed in the ECU which was replaced and I have got back my car from the workshop and is running pretty smooth and fine without any issues.
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