Hello, a small update and a little more context. I got my car in December '17 and my pain started happening around April '18 after I'd driven it around 10k Kms. That was during my student days, I would have a sitting time of maximum 3-4 hours per day, and that too not continuous. I was very active in sports, had a lifestyle that could be characterized as anything but sedantary. I have since attempted to get it diagnosed multiple times but none's been satisfactory, so I've done my own diagnosis based on my observations and input from multiple qualified doctors and a couple of friends in the medical field. This thread has also helped fine tune my observation and it indeed was supposed to be an exercise in the same.
To that end, I'd like to address a few things mentioned in this thread.
1) Anyone who's read BHP's guides on good driving practices (which I did before I started driving!) would never keep their foot on the clutch pedal itself.
2) I also researched extensively on the optimal seating position before I started driving, I've since experimented with it since. I've come to a conclusion which I will mention later.
3) Yes back pain could occur because of poor posture and/or sedantary lifestyle, but that's not the case here so the repetitive mentions of the same are disrespectful towards other BHPians who have experienced the pain yet do exercise/maintain good habits.
Now, on the seating position in the car. I had a ~600km drive today in the very same car. The optimal position for equally using the muscles in the thigh is considered one where the height of the knee is below/the same as your hip when the clutch pedal is pressed. This simply isn't possible for taller people in budget hatchbacks in India. If I do that completely, I can barely reach the steering at its maximum reach. The seating height adjustment is also a nightmare, with limited headroom.
Those who seem to be suggesting they've had no problem with a low slung car seem to have, by and large, two things in common. They drive nicer cars, for the lack of a better description, and also seem to drive automatics.
My observation of my left knee (I've exercised extensively to recover my muscles in the last two years, and there's been visible success) suggests me that in the best position possible in my current ride, some muscles are being overused and others, underused. With astute observation, I could notice the physical outcome of that and have done a lot to correct it since. I do specific exercise for RSI (repetitive strain injury, which happens when you use a muscle often without any other movement, for a long period of time) of the knee and that's helped. I also cycle. My doctor suggested that I could have early signs of osteoarthritis and sesame oil is sometimes as effective as medical pain relievers, I've occasionally tried a massage and that seems to ease the pain in the short term.
The problem seems to stem from the weird position the left leg is forced in the budget hatchbacks while pressing the clutch. This simply isn't requisite countouring and settings available for reaching a comfortable position. However, Ritz, being more upright, is able to provide me with the ideal "knee should not be above hip height" while pressing the clutch, without needing much adjustment. That could be it.
Source:
https://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/c...back-pain.html Quote:
Pay attention to your position in the seat. It's not good to have your knees above your hip joints, says Shamie. Ideally, both knees and hips should be at a 90-degree angle when you're in the seat, he says
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There are similar observations on a T-BHP thread from a decade ago! -
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techn...wear-tear.html (Clutch usage in Manual transmission - Exercise to leg or wear and tear?)
More details on the use of thigh muscles, the ideal height and ways to press clutch here
http://benmlee.com/4Runner/Pressing_Clutch.htm A lot of people presume, without reading my original post, that I just had some discomfort and came here to crib without looking at how I take care of my health. That's not what I'm doing. We all share our love for driving, and we all know that low slung cars are a particular fun to drive.
I'm not here to spoil that party. Quote:
Originally Posted by The Rationalist 2) Get a lumbar and seat support. I use both for reading, very good as per my experience.
3) Start abdominal and back exercises.
Regards,
The Rationalist. |
Thank you. I have already started exercises and they've helped immensely. A couple years ago, if I tried to stand on my leg after having sat with crossed legs for a while, I couldn't. Now I have very mild discomfort after driving long distances. This thread is more of an exercise in discovering the source of problem.
Your point about mattress is a good one. I already have an excellent mattress and sleeping straight on it did reduce my tailbone pain considerably. I use ergonomic chairs and sitting position everywhere else.
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Originally Posted by RijuC By the way, where did you consult for these problems in GGN? Once I visited Safdarjung sports injury center, and also consulted Max hospital senior consultants. They gave almost same medicines which are not very helpful for me. I am otherwise consuming SOS medicines like Hifenac or Brufen etc. Or injection shots. |
Hello RijuC, I do not reside in GGN. I have actually moved a lot in the last year. From Punjab to MP to now Haryana. I consulted different doctors everywhere. All of the orthopedic surgeons recommended that I stop driving completely, or I'd have serious problems in old age. My own doctor is friendlier and loves a good discussion, he explained to me what's happening with my knee, and what all I could do. In the meantime, he recommended I look up the pain reducing properties of sesame oil as an alternative to something like Diclofenac and I did, here are a couple of links
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...65229919307162 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4493737/
I also started cycling, looked up a few exercises for the knee injuries. I have been doing those religiously and even stretching my thigh muscles to ensure none gets too tight due to repeated or excessive use. There's only so long for which you can keep consuming pain killers, you ought to look at other solutions. For example, someone here suggested a seating cushion for raising the height. You could also consider visiting a physiotherapist.