Tyre puncture. No feedback from car.

DCEite · 30th May 2007, 12:39

Today while coming to office i had to deal with a punctured tyre. When i started from home, i did feel a lag, but the lag was very very minimal. I thought it was just because of the ac that i felt the car a little sluggish. The car(WR) has radial tyres.
But only after travelling for about 8 kms someone in the traffic pointed out to the tyre. I was really suprised to see the rear tyre punctured. I felt absolutely negligible feedback.
Does it happen with any of you. My 800 with non radial tyres used to give me so much feedback that it almost refused to move forward with a flat tyre.
Has that something to do with radial tyres? Its not even tubeless..

amtak · 30th May 2007, 12:41

which car is WR? Could you please help on this!

bottle · 30th May 2007, 12:44

was it the rear tyre ? last time once i had a puncture in zen but didnt notice for a while .. its only at low speeds i guess you feel some pulling etc

iraghava · 30th May 2007, 12:45

This puncture was on a rear wheel yes? And the 800 punctures were usually on the front wheels?

DCEite · 30th May 2007, 12:48

Yes rear wheel.
Dont remember the 800 punctures, but it gives so much feedback that you know instantly that the tyre is punctured.

@Amtak its a wagonR

deepakhon · 30th May 2007, 12:48

My car had a flat rear tyre in city limits and I did not get any feedback. Just as in your case, some autowalla pointed to me that the rear right tyre has gone flat. I did not feel a thing. For the records, I drive Palio 1.2 NV.

DieselFan · 30th May 2007, 12:50

rear tire punctures are difficult to detect as the rear of the car is usually loaded less. If you are driving alone most of the car weight is taken by the two front tires (Most of the car weight is under the hood). Hence rear tires are less prone to puncture too. Also damage on the tire and tube because of driving on a punctured tube is minimal if it happens on the rear wheel. Hope this answers your question.

HellwratH · 30th May 2007, 12:51

Yep, I have faced the same problem with my Wagon-R and the situation was similar. The puncture was on the rear tyre and I drove for almost 4 kms and someone pointed out. But the worst part is, the nail was still on the tyre and had to face problem of multiple punctures on the tube.. :(

iraghava · 30th May 2007, 12:55

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Originally Posted by DCEite

Yes rear wheel.
Dont remember the 800 punctures, but it gives so much feedback that you know instantly that the tyre is punctured.

That explains. See what happens is, in a car with a single person it it there is hardly any load over the rear suspension so when you get a puncture in the rear two it's hard to feel in any car let it be a WR or any other. In a front puncture it is much easier to detect since the car starts pulling to one side. However, if your car is fully loaded & you get a puncture in the rear you'll get to know very soon.

As for the M800 vs WR comparison, can't say much been too long since I drove them last.

sivadas · 30th May 2007, 12:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCEite

Has that something to do with radial tyres? Its not even tubeless..

Tubeless behaves that way. But you get relatively less feed back from rear puncture any way (assume that you were not having any body in the back seat).

extreme_torque · 30th May 2007, 13:14

Even I had a puncture few days back and I drove till the office. After I came back to leave office did I saw the puncture. Unfortunately the tube had been screwed, I got no feedback at all while driving. Mine is a Palio 1.2 ELX.

abhilashvk · 30th May 2007, 13:20

I failed to notice the drag which was very negligible when I was driving my friends Santro in the Bangalore City. The puncture was on the rear left tyre. Also I failed to notice the power in my Accent CRDi on Mysore road when the rear left tyre punctured, however after a few Kms I could feel slight vibration thats when i stopped the car to inspect. Both the cases I had to change the tube and sides of the tyre were worn out.
Now I decided to replace my car tyres to tubeless cos I drive Bangalore - Calicut in the night and I dont want a flat in the middle of the night inside Bandipur forest...with all those wild elephants around!!!

anonymous · 30th May 2007, 13:25

Its quite normal and happened with me 3/4 times. When you are the only person in the car and rear tyre gets punctured, its very difficult. In fact I have seen few people driving their car with rear tyre punctured and there are 3/4 people in the car, I used to shout them or indicate them about the tyre. Some people understand it and some simply ignore me.

suren181 · 30th May 2007, 13:26

Ditto problem for me too... on my Santro i.e.. Has happened to me on my earlier Tubed tyres many times. Fully laden on the highway, a rear tyre has a puncture and it has someone to point me out to my predicament and there was no feedback in the car. In the city in a couple of occassions, rear tyres again and would know when pointed out or only after I roll to a stop. The tubeless tyres however have let me down just once in their 15600kms service and was while I was taking the car out of the parking in the morning. Hence no idea as to the feedback or feel that the tyre is punctured.

n_aditya · 30th May 2007, 13:29

happened to me one when i was drivin to blore late in the evening.

The rear left tire (tubetype JK Ultima) was punctured and a biker noticed and informed me within few mins (lucky me). the tire was not damaged in any way... phew!!!

I did not feel a thing even though the car was loaded with people in the rear seats and some articles in the trunk.

Now i have shifted to tubeless michelin's and yet i check the tires visually everyday. any tips guys? how do we figure out a puncture in such scenario's as above?

30th May 2007, 12:39	#1
DCEite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NCR Posts: 3,588 Thanked: 3,484 Times	Tyre puncture. No feedback from car. Today while coming to office i had to deal with a punctured tyre. When i started from home, i did feel a lag, but the lag was very very minimal. I thought it was just because of the ac that i felt the car a little sluggish. The car(WR) has radial tyres. But only after travelling for about 8 kms someone in the traffic pointed out to the tyre. I was really suprised to see the rear tyre punctured. I felt absolutely negligible feedback. Does it happen with any of you. My 800 with non radial tyres used to give me so much feedback that it almost refused to move forward with a flat tyre. Has that something to do with radial tyres? Its not even tubeless..
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30th May 2007, 12:41	#2
amtak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai - The city of Sea Link!!! Posts: 2,983 Thanked: 1,108 Times	which car is WR? Could you please help on this!
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30th May 2007, 12:44	#3
bottle Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,641 Thanked: 294 Times View My Garage	was it the rear tyre ? last time once i had a puncture in zen but didnt notice for a while .. its only at low speeds i guess you feel some pulling etc
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30th May 2007, 12:45	#4
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 7,993 Thanked: 281 Times View My Garage	This puncture was on a rear wheel yes? And the 800 punctures were usually on the front wheels?
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30th May 2007, 12:48	#5
DCEite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NCR Posts: 3,588 Thanked: 3,484 Times	Yes rear wheel. Dont remember the 800 punctures, but it gives so much feedback that you know instantly that the tyre is punctured. @Amtak its a wagonR Last edited by DCEite : 30th May 2007 at 13:03.
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30th May 2007, 12:48	#6
deepakhon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,441 Thanked: 77 Times	My car had a flat rear tyre in city limits and I did not get any feedback. Just as in your case, some autowalla pointed to me that the rear right tyre has gone flat. I did not feel a thing. For the records, I drive Palio 1.2 NV.
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30th May 2007, 12:50	#7
DieselFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,584 Thanked: 260 Times	rear tire punctures are difficult to detect as the rear of the car is usually loaded less. If you are driving alone most of the car weight is taken by the two front tires (Most of the car weight is under the hood). Hence rear tires are less prone to puncture too. Also damage on the tire and tube because of driving on a punctured tube is minimal if it happens on the rear wheel. Hope this answers your question.
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30th May 2007, 12:51	#8
HellwratH BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 115 Thanked: 57 Times	Yep, I have faced the same problem with my Wagon-R and the situation was similar. The puncture was on the rear tyre and I drove for almost 4 kms and someone pointed out. But the worst part is, the nail was still on the tyre and had to face problem of multiple punctures on the tube.. :(
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30th May 2007, 13:14	#11
extreme_torque BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne Posts: 4,461 Thanked: 5,534 Times	Even I had a puncture few days back and I drove till the office. After I came back to leave office did I saw the puncture. Unfortunately the tube had been screwed, I got no feedback at all while driving. Mine is a Palio 1.2 ELX.
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30th May 2007, 13:20	#12
abhilashvk BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore/Calic Posts: 367 Thanked: 32 Times View My Garage	I failed to notice the drag which was very negligible when I was driving my friends Santro in the Bangalore City. The puncture was on the rear left tyre. Also I failed to notice the power in my Accent CRDi on Mysore road when the rear left tyre punctured, however after a few Kms I could feel slight vibration thats when i stopped the car to inspect. Both the cases I had to change the tube and sides of the tyre were worn out. Now I decided to replace my car tyres to tubeless cos I drive Bangalore - Calicut in the night and I dont want a flat in the middle of the night inside Bandipur forest...with all those wild elephants around!!!
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30th May 2007, 13:25	#13
anonymous BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NCR Posts: 564 Thanked: 26 Times	Its quite normal and happened with me 3/4 times. When you are the only person in the car and rear tyre gets punctured, its very difficult. In fact I have seen few people driving their car with rear tyre punctured and there are 3/4 people in the car, I used to shout them or indicate them about the tyre. Some people understand it and some simply ignore me.
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30th May 2007, 13:26	#14
suren181 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 848 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	Ditto problem for me too... on my Santro i.e.. Has happened to me on my earlier Tubed tyres many times. Fully laden on the highway, a rear tyre has a puncture and it has someone to point me out to my predicament and there was no feedback in the car. In the city in a couple of occassions, rear tyres again and would know when pointed out or only after I roll to a stop. The tubeless tyres however have let me down just once in their 15600kms service and was while I was taking the car out of the parking in the morning. Hence no idea as to the feedback or feel that the tyre is punctured.
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30th May 2007, 13:29	#15
n_aditya Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Namma Bengaluru Posts: 5,372 Thanked: 3,806 Times View My Garage	happened to me one when i was drivin to blore late in the evening. The rear left tire (tubetype JK Ultima) was punctured and a biker noticed and informed me within few mins (lucky me). the tire was not damaged in any way... phew!!! I did not feel a thing even though the car was loaded with people in the rear seats and some articles in the trunk. Now i have shifted to tubeless michelin's and yet i check the tires visually everyday. any tips guys? how do we figure out a puncture in such scenario's as above?
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