[V-16]

Originally Posted by DirtyDan

The issue is he does not like, want or need this expensive 'safety' feature. I do not like it either. I think it is too complex and too much can go wrong with it. I have a heavy duty hidden toggle switch on my vehicle. It can not start unless the toggle is thrown and the key turned. It is enough to make most would be thieves give up and try an easier vehicle.

I agree with the coplex part but isnt getting a toggle switch fitted equal to as much complication/ I mean you want to immobilize the car with an extra fittment when your key is already doing that job? How many here have had a problem with the factory fitted security system namely the immobilizer? With the OE system, the car will not start anyway so whats the point of cancelling the OE system and fitting an after market one? If there are any gremlins other than personal fancies I think they should be addressed here coz then that will enlighten all of us

Originally Posted by speedzak

I think a better option for those who don't like an immobiliser in their cars is to opt out of it while booking. Or go for the one which is not equipped with one.
But, I would still call it stupidity. :

Zak one cant order an Innova or say a Skoda or any other car which comes with an OE immobilizer, without it. Its just not an option.

Originally Posted by 1self

Hi Hrishikesh!

There IS a way around this. If the immobiliser chip can be removed from the key, simply paste the chip near the starter keyhole. Use can then any duplicated key, the car will still start....buttttttt you WILL lose the security associated with an immobiliser.

No Beta its not that simple. And no one will dare rob your car. With the Noise it makes, it'll wake the whole country up on first crank...

[anupmathur]

Originally Posted by DirtyDan

I think it is too complex and too much can go wrong with it.

Originally Posted by V-16

I agree with the coplex part ..

I beg to differ. The iCATs system is NOT too complex, and very little can go wrong with it. Is anyone aware of any incident where someone has had a problem with it?
Yes, the system is 'complex' to the extent it is almost foolproof, but what has made it so is not 'complex' technology but 'well-integrated' technology.

[GSHA]

Originally Posted by 1self

Hi Hrishikesh!

There IS a way around this. If the immobiliser chip can be removed from the key, simply paste the chip near the starter keyhole. Use can then any duplicated key, the car will still start....buttttttt you WILL lose the security associated with an immobiliser.

On a lighter note: You might as well leave the keys besides the keyhole.

Best is to get as many keys as required for the application, all made by Toyota.

BTW, How many times have we seen people wanting more than a couple of keys?

OT: A friend of mine leaves his key (regular key, no immobilizer) on the keyhole of his car! He just carries the AUTOCOP remote around! He feels secure enough. We do see very different kinds of people.cheers:

[sidd_city]

Dude you want to bypass the security system just for the sake of a duplicate key right? One peace of advice- End of the day you are better of loosing a key then loosing your car. Atleast you can source the key But the car

[cheap_deal]

just pay the 3800rs and get 2 more keys. thats a steal compared to what lexus and other brands charge for just a single extra copy!!!

[V-16]

Originally Posted by anupmathur

I beg to differ. The iCATs system is NOT too complex, and very little can go wrong with it. Is anyone aware of any incident where someone has had a problem with it?
Yes, the system is 'complex' to the extent it is almost foolproof, but what has made it so is not 'complex' technology but 'well-integrated' technology.

You didnt get my point bud. The system is a complex one but even im saying that very little can go wrong with it. Read my bold post below. Whom you should be disagreeing with is Dirty Dan, not Moi

Originally Posted by V-16

I agree with the complex part but isnt getting a toggle switch fitted equal to as much complication/ I mean you want to immobilize the car with an extra fittment when your key is already doing that job? How many here have had a problem with the factory fitted security system namely the immobilizer? With the

[anupmathur]

Originally Posted by V-16

Whom you should be disagreeing with is Dirty Dan, not Moi

You are right. However, it's only a disagreement. Apologies.
So DD, kindly take note!

[1self]

Originally Posted by V-16

No Beta its not that simple. And no one will dare rob your car. With the Noise it makes, it'll wake the whole country up on first crank...

My lovely vehicle has never felt this insulted! So as a matter of revenge, it will creep up to you when you are asleep & THEN crank!


@anupmathur: i do believe one has to remove the chip itself & then paste that near the starter column, otherwise the signal strength of the transponder/RFID is not enough....at least that is what is mentioned in the instructions of switchblade-type blank keys that i purchased on-line.

[moralfibre]

Originally Posted by GSHA

OT: A friend of mine leaves his key (regular key, no immobilizer) on the keyhole of his car! He just carries the AUTOCOP remote around! He feels secure enough. We do see very different kinds of people.cheers:

Off topic again. A team-bhp member friend leaves the keys on the ignition switch for all his cars bought in the vintage.

[anupmathur]

Originally Posted by 1self

@anupmathur: i do believe one has to remove the chip itself & then paste that near the starter column, otherwise the signal strength of the transponder/RFID is not enough....at least that is what is mentioned in the instructions of switchblade-type blank keys that i purchased on-line.

As I said earlier:

Originally Posted by anupmathur

I have tried having the original key present at every conceivable location/geometry near the keyhole while trying to start my WagonR with the 'locally made duplicate' key. Didn't work!

I suspect that there is just that 'something extra' in this system which we haven't put our finger on.

[karlosdeville]

Originally Posted by moralfibre

Off topic again. A team-bhp member friend leaves the keys on the ignition switch for all his cars bought in the vintage.

How silly! I would never do something that risky. Your friend must be warned against lurkers like me, peeking into all the old cars around.

[moralfibre]

Originally Posted by karlosdeville

How silly! I would never do something that risky. Your friend must be warned against lurkers like me, peeking into all the old cars around.

And the fact is I know where his cars are parked . And most of his cars have a quarter window to sneak in. Super cool na. Very soon i'll have my own Fiat collection at this rate .

[iraghava]

Originally Posted by moralfibre

Very soon i'll have my own Fiat collection at this rate .

Yeah, but just remember to change the number plates ok. From what I know this bugger has a thing for car numbers!

[moralfibre]

Originally Posted by iraghava

Yeah, but just remember to change the number plates ok. From what I know this bugger has a thing for car numbers!

No probs. He doesn't look at new gen number plates. Mebbe I would try an MH-12 number instead of MHW, MRW, BMC, MTP, BYH, MHJ, etc.

[karlosdeville]

Originally Posted by iraghava

Yeah, but just remember to change the number plates ok. From what I know this bugger has a thing for car numbers!

Wow, Id love to meet him. Sounds like a stand up guy!

Ishan, dont you have a Charger to plug in?