Issue with Innova Keys

iraghava · 10th December 2007, 23:51

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Originally Posted by moralfibre

No probs. He doesn't look at new gen number plates. Mebbe I would try an MH-12 number instead of MHW, MRW, BMC, MTP, BYH, MHJ, etc.

Hmmm....good point! I say go for it!!

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

Ishan, dont you have a Charger to plug in?

No, but I have a Charger to drive around in! A Dodge Charger that is

hkanitkar · 11th December 2007, 01:41

whoa... havent we gone way off topic huh ???

Ok heres a bit of update. Inspite of the 'state of art' security system ( as claimed by the toyota executive ), this 5-day old car, was broken into yesterday night. Hatch door glass very easily shattered to pieces and point of entry secured, thief took the 2-DIN cd player that came with the car ( an opportunity to upgrade i say

). No other damage whatsoever.

So it just proves : there are work-arounds for every security measure present on your car.

Thanks a lot for your inputs. The security on car ( as well as premises

) will be upgraded to a better one now.

speedzak · 11th December 2007, 04:20

Arrey Baba! The security system which comes factory fitted (the one we are discussing here) is something which will prevent the car to be driven away. A break in cannot be prevented with it. You need shock sensors, glass breaking sensors etc.. To prevent that kind of incidents.

V-16 · 11th December 2007, 05:14

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Originally Posted by hkanitkar

Inspite of the 'state of art' security system ( as claimed by the toyota executive ), this 5-day old car, was broken into yesterday night. Hatch door glass very easily shattered to pieces and point of entry secured, thief took the 2-DIN cd player that came with the car ( an opportunity to upgrade i say

). No other damage whatsoever.

So it just proves : there are work-arounds for every security measure present on your car.

Thanks a lot for your inputs. The security on car ( as well as premises

) will be upgraded to a better one now.

Buddy would you rather have your stereo stolen or your new car??
Secondly ...The second part has been answered by Speedzak below. Looks like you are hell bent on spending money for something you already have. There might be a possibility of fixing just an alarm system with a megaphone and motion sensors etc which might be compatible with the OE, I suggest that you go in fo rthat one.

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Originally Posted by speedzak

Arrey Baba! The security system which comes factory fitted (the one we are discussing here) is something which will prevent the car to be driven away. A break in cannot be prevented with it. You need shock sensors, glass breaking sensors etc.. To prevent that kind of incidents.

1self · 11th December 2007, 06:12

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Originally Posted by V-16

Buddy would you rather have your stereo stolen or your new car??
Secondly ...The second part has been answered by Speedzak below. Looks like you are hell bent on spending money for something you already have. There might be a possibility of fixing just an alarm system with a megaphone and motion sensors etc which might be compatible with the OE, I suggest that you go in fo rthat one.

Yup, that would be a much better idea...have add-ons that work in conjunction with your existing system.

hkanitkar · 11th December 2007, 11:53

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Originally Posted by speedzak

Arrey Baba! The security system which comes factory fitted.. ..need shock sensors, glass breaking sensors etc

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Originally Posted by V-16

Buddy would you rather have your stereo stolen or your new car??

arrey babas .. i know !!
i was just commenting upon the 'work-arounds' part !

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Originally Posted by 1self

Yup, that would be a much better idea...have add-ons that work in conjunction with your existing system.

Already in search of the same !

Off topic but 1self, how much did that HU in your car cost ya ?

IMP · 11th December 2007, 13:36

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Originally Posted by anupmathur

I do not believe it is as simple as that. I have tried having the original key present at every conceivable location/geometry near the keyhole while trying to start my WagonR with the 'locally made duplicate' key. Didn't work!

This thing works with the safari, TATA gives you a card that contains the chip, the card is the size of a credit card, and you can use the card with any locally made duplicate key.

@anupmathur - try to touch the metal around the key slot with the original key while you turn the ignition with the duplicate key, it might work.

1self · 11th December 2007, 13:55

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Originally Posted by hkanitkar

Already in search of the same !

Off topic but 1self, how much did that HU in your car cost ya ?

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/596903-post66.html

anupmathur · 11th December 2007, 14:29

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Originally Posted by IMP

@anupmathur - try to touch the metal around the key slot with the original key while you turn the ignition with the duplicate key, it might work.

Already done. No success.
Which is why I said I've tried every conceivable position/geometry.
Still, I'm open to more ideas that might have escaped me.

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Originally Posted by IMP

TATA gives you a card that contains the chip, the card is the size of a credit card, and you can use the card with any locally made duplicate key.

Very interesting! Where exactly do you need to hold/place this card?

IMP · 11th December 2007, 14:41

The card needs to be touching the bottom side of the steering column, just below the key slot.

anupmathur · 11th December 2007, 19:24

Just tried again. Every position I could think of. Nope, it doesn't work.
You could try on any new Maruti vehicle delivered after end-April 2007.

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hkanitkar BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: pune Posts: 668 Thanked: 110 Times View My Garage	whoa... havent we gone way off topic huh ??? Ok heres a bit of update. Inspite of the 'state of art' security system ( as claimed by the toyota executive ), this 5-day old car, was broken into yesterday night. Hatch door glass very easily shattered to pieces and point of entry secured, thief took the 2-DIN cd player that came with the car ( an opportunity to upgrade i say ). No other damage whatsoever. So it just proves : there are work-arounds for every security measure present on your car. Thanks a lot for your inputs. The security on car ( as well as premises ) will be upgraded to a better one now. Last edited by hkanitkar : 11th December 2007 at 01:43.
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speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	Arrey Baba! The security system which comes factory fitted (the one we are discussing here) is something which will prevent the car to be driven away. A break in cannot be prevented with it. You need shock sensors, glass breaking sensors etc.. To prevent that kind of incidents.
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IMP BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 123 Thanked: 30 Times	The card needs to be touching the bottom side of the steering column, just below the key slot.
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11th December 2007, 19:24	#41
anupmathur Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 3,095 Thanked: 311 Times	Just tried again. Every position I could think of. Nope, it doesn't work. You could try on any new Maruti vehicle delivered after end-April 2007.
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