Fitting an Air-conditioner in the Maruti 800

renney.varghese · 8th March 2010, 17:58

Yes, Sanden .. that was the other name. I tried to call up the Subros guys and even send them emails enquiring about the fitment. Still await answers. Do these guys fit the unit as well? Would this cause any later problems with Maruti?

skdking · 8th March 2010, 22:10

Why don't you follow this link

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...uti-800-a.html

I have a 24000km, non AC, 2001, mpfi Maruti 800. I too plan to get an AC fitted soon. Yet to make up my mind. The toss up is between Sanden and Subros.

Please keep the forum posted on your actions.

IQBAL VEERJI · 16th March 2010, 22:03

Hi. I would like to ask GURUS about AC compressor in my Maruti 800.
It is a 2002 model and come with original compressor which due to aging lost the PUMPING and I was told to replace it with a new one. I was told by my mechanic to replace it with 507 compressor which is large capacity and will give superier cooling, since same was given as original in earler old shape Maruti DX in 1985. I had used this model of car earlier and was very happy with the cooling in those days.
Finnally I got 507 compressor along with bracket for the compressor , Pipes,Engine pulley etc as I was told all these will also have to be changed since erlier original compressor was small in size and had different fixing system of pipes to compressor ,cooling coil,condensor.After getting the replacement done now the cooling is superb,even at noon time the cooling is fantastic, and I dont feel any extra load on the engine it is same as it was with earler compressor,Request with GURUS to say a word or so regarding my modification and to give thier comments will it be of any harm to the engine, I am not worried for any minor extra fuel consumption if any and also since I have FFE installed no extra load or strain is felt on the engine,neither the engine is getting heated up, all signs are same as earlier compressor.
tra load on the engine is felt.

drpullockaran · 16th March 2010, 22:43

I concur with your decision to go for the

507. It is no doubt the best small capacity compressor in the market barring none. It has been the work horse for umpteen retro fits from Amby's to Padminis of yesteryears. I plan to put the same unit for my Junkindica sometime next month which requires a bit of metallurgical work. That compressor should outlast your car if you take care not to rev your engine too high with the compressor engaged. That unit is capable of making ice in your back seat.

There will be a slight strain on your engine but if you keep your radiator and cooling fan and fan relay in top condition I foresee no trouble with your car for years to come on account of the 507.

sumeethaldankar · 3rd April 2010, 16:06

hello,
what was the cost for the 507 comp?

IQBAL VEERJI · 3rd April 2010, 22:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by sumeethaldankar

hello,
what was the cost for the 507 comp?

I paid 2500/- for a second hand one at chor bazar mumbai but it has started giving problems now with noise after driving for about 30 to 40 kms the compressor starts grinding noise , I plan to show it to the hor bazar guy from whom I brought it but it seems that chap is avoiding me by all tantrums. BEST is go for a new but chinese copy it is costing 5500/-.

suzuki san · 4th April 2010, 12:11

Hi,

Fit the 507 compressor and to make your 800 an icebox, fit a SuperKing blower as well. I had done this a few years ago on my 800 and the cooling was amaaaaazzzing. Better than a lot of the newer cars I've had. Without a doubt, the best A/C I've had in a car. The downside is that you lose your HVAC system on the dashboard.

Just my 2c

Regards,

SS

renney.varghese · 28th April 2010, 14:40

After a lot of research and follow up, I got the Subaros model fit into my M800. Tested this on my drive back from Nasik and it performed well. The mileage is something which i need to test now. A big thanks to everyone here who helped me out. I shall eventually post reviews about the same in this forum

sumeethaldankar · 30th April 2010, 21:37

Hi,
I have a 97 model 800 Dx version with a/c.Now my a/c died 3 years ago when i fitted the car with a FFE

.I had got it fixed before the FFE twice but every time it kept dying so i let it be.I know the gas that would be filled in a/c is no longer "legally" available now.I want to get my a/c going again, so can anyone tell me what components i should go for a change.

Should i change the entire compressor and condenser unit with a brand new one or shall i try to use existing one.I have changed some of the a/c pipes before with new ones so i can rule out that but i am not sure about the comp as it was unused for 3 years.So help me out guys,thanks.

Trust_In_Thrust · 30th April 2010, 23:38

you can use r134 in r12 system .I have seen it working in a sanden setup in delhi.It was good enough .

sumeethaldankar · 1st May 2010, 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trust_In_Thrust

you can use r134 in r12 system .I have seen it working in a sanden setup in delhi.It was good enough .

Are you saying i can use the new kind of gas in my old compressor without any modifications?

Trust_In_Thrust · 2nd May 2010, 04:40

Atleast this is what i saw and it was working fine.The guy had a 507 compressor and superking blower cum cooling coil .

I know technically we need top change a lot as R12 and R134 work at different pressure but i have seen it to work fine enough.

I would say get the R134 filled up may cost around 700-800 Rs .Check if you are happy why spend thousands.

scorpian · 2nd May 2010, 08:02

yes u can fill 134a in replacement of your r12,thats what most of the a.c techs around the country ared doing,Just did the same to my uncles zen and it works great,no change,no mods just replaced the compressor oil with 134a compatible oil,flushed with nitrogen,checked for leaks and then filled 134a...thats it.

Go to MASS and they would tell you buy new compressor,piping and crap for the same conversion,somehow iam happy that our indigenous roadside guys find a solution for every problem.

sumeethaldankar · 6th May 2010, 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by scorpian

yes u can fill 134a in replacement of your r12,thats what most of the a.c techs around the country ared doing,Just did the same to my uncles zen and it works great,no change,no mods just replaced the compressor oil with 134a compatible oil,flushed with nitrogen,checked for leaks and then filled 134a...thats it.

Go to MASS and they would tell you buy new compressor,piping and crap for the same conversion,somehow iam happy that our indigenous roadside guys find a solution for every problem.

Hi,
If you live in mumbai can you direct me to the garage who did the change for your uncle's car.

thanks

renney.varghese · 17th May 2010, 16:07

Finally I got a Subaros kit into my 800. The complete setup was done at the MAS and it has been over 15 days now, with two long drives between Mumbai and Nashik. The AC has responded quite well during these extreme temperatures. There is a slight load on the engine, but not too noticible during the drive. The fuel consumption has increased by 2 points. To counter that I use the ON / OFF method of the AC on the slopes and Climbs, which saves fuel and the load on the engine. I had a long waiting time for the kit, as MAS say that they do not keep such kits in stock, and hence had to procure it from the Subaros outlet at Andheri. I shall let you know of more of my experiences. The whole fitment took approximately 7 hours including a complete road test.

8th March 2010, 17:58	#61
renney.varghese BHPian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Mumbai Posts: 62 Thanked: 20 Times	Yes, Sanden .. that was the other name. I tried to call up the Subros guys and even send them emails enquiring about the fitment. Still await answers. Do these guys fit the unit as well? Would this cause any later problems with Maruti?
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8th March 2010, 22:10	#62
skdking BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Delhi Cantt Posts: 557 Thanked: 206 Times	Why don't you follow this link http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...uti-800-a.html I have a 24000km, non AC, 2001, mpfi Maruti 800. I too plan to get an AC fitted soon. Yet to make up my mind. The toss up is between Sanden and Subros. Please keep the forum posted on your actions.
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16th March 2010, 22:03	#63
IQBAL VEERJI Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SAAT BUNGLA, BAMBAI. Posts: 1,055 Thanked: 344 Times	Replaced AC Compressor with 507 in Maruti 800 Hi. I would like to ask GURUS about AC compressor in my Maruti 800. It is a 2002 model and come with original compressor which due to aging lost the PUMPING and I was told to replace it with a new one. I was told by my mechanic to replace it with 507 compressor which is large capacity and will give superier cooling, since same was given as original in earler old shape Maruti DX in 1985. I had used this model of car earlier and was very happy with the cooling in those days. Finnally I got 507 compressor along with bracket for the compressor , Pipes,Engine pulley etc as I was told all these will also have to be changed since erlier original compressor was small in size and had different fixing system of pipes to compressor ,cooling coil,condensor.After getting the replacement done now the cooling is superb,even at noon time the cooling is fantastic, and I dont feel any extra load on the engine it is same as it was with earler compressor,Request with GURUS to say a word or so regarding my modification and to give thier comments will it be of any harm to the engine, I am not worried for any minor extra fuel consumption if any and also since I have FFE installed no extra load or strain is felt on the engine,neither the engine is getting heated up, all signs are same as earlier compressor. tra load on the engine is felt.
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16th March 2010, 22:43	#64
drpullockaran BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ERNAKULAM Posts: 961 Thanked: 388 Times	The 507 Sanden is the best small capacity comp for the price. I concur with your decision to go for the 507. It is no doubt the best small capacity compressor in the market barring none. It has been the work horse for umpteen retro fits from Amby's to Padminis of yesteryears. I plan to put the same unit for my Junkindica sometime next month which requires a bit of metallurgical work. That compressor should outlast your car if you take care not to rev your engine too high with the compressor engaged. That unit is capable of making ice in your back seat. There will be a slight strain on your engine but if you keep your radiator and cooling fan and fan relay in top condition I foresee no trouble with your car for years to come on account of the 507.
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3rd April 2010, 16:06	#65
sumeethaldankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,149 Thanked: 3,676 Times View My Garage	hello, what was the cost for the 507 comp?
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4th April 2010, 12:11	#67
suzuki san BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Assagao, Goa Posts: 784 Thanked: 745 Times View My Garage	Hi, Fit the 507 compressor and to make your 800 an icebox, fit a SuperKing blower as well. I had done this a few years ago on my 800 and the cooling was amaaaaazzzing. Better than a lot of the newer cars I've had. Without a doubt, the best A/C I've had in a car. The downside is that you lose your HVAC system on the dashboard. Just my 2c Regards, SS
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28th April 2010, 14:40	#68
renney.varghese BHPian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Mumbai Posts: 62 Thanked: 20 Times	After a lot of research and follow up, I got the Subaros model fit into my M800. Tested this on my drive back from Nasik and it performed well. The mileage is something which i need to test now. A big thanks to everyone here who helped me out. I shall eventually post reviews about the same in this forum
	() Thanks

30th April 2010, 21:37	#69
sumeethaldankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,149 Thanked: 3,676 Times View My Garage	Restoring a/c for the dx 800 Hi, I have a 97 model 800 Dx version with a/c.Now my a/c died 3 years ago when i fitted the car with a FFE .I had got it fixed before the FFE twice but every time it kept dying so i let it be.I know the gas that would be filled in a/c is no longer "legally" available now.I want to get my a/c going again, so can anyone tell me what components i should go for a change. Should i change the entire compressor and condenser unit with a brand new one or shall i try to use existing one.I have changed some of the a/c pipes before with new ones so i can rule out that but i am not sure about the comp as it was unused for 3 years.So help me out guys,thanks.
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30th April 2010, 23:38	#70
Trust_In_Thrust BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 768 Thanked: 350 Times	you can use r134 in r12 system .I have seen it working in a sanden setup in delhi.It was good enough .
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2nd May 2010, 04:40	#72
Trust_In_Thrust BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 768 Thanked: 350 Times	Atleast this is what i saw and it was working fine.The guy had a 507 compressor and superking blower cum cooling coil . I know technically we need top change a lot as R12 and R134 work at different pressure but i have seen it to work fine enough. I would say get the R134 filled up may cost around 700-800 Rs .Check if you are happy why spend thousands. Last edited by Trust_In_Thrust : 2nd May 2010 at 04:42.
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2nd May 2010, 08:02	#73
scorpian BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: GOA Posts: 860 Thanked: 1,310 Times View My Garage	yes u can fill 134a in replacement of your r12,thats what most of the a.c techs around the country ared doing,Just did the same to my uncles zen and it works great,no change,no mods just replaced the compressor oil with 134a compatible oil,flushed with nitrogen,checked for leaks and then filled 134a...thats it. Go to MASS and they would tell you buy new compressor,piping and crap for the same conversion,somehow iam happy that our indigenous roadside guys find a solution for every problem.
	() Thanks

17th May 2010, 16:07	#75
renney.varghese BHPian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Mumbai Posts: 62 Thanked: 20 Times	Finally I got a Subaros kit into my 800. The complete setup was done at the MAS and it has been over 15 days now, with two long drives between Mumbai and Nashik. The AC has responded quite well during these extreme temperatures. There is a slight load on the engine, but not too noticible during the drive. The fuel consumption has increased by 2 points. To counter that I use the ON / OFF method of the AC on the slopes and Climbs, which saves fuel and the load on the engine. I had a long waiting time for the kit, as MAS say that they do not keep such kits in stock, and hence had to procure it from the Subaros outlet at Andheri. I shall let you know of more of my experiences. The whole fitment took approximately 7 hours including a complete road test.
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