How to Modify / Tune your car - 2 - Superchargers!

1self · 13th April 2009, 17:36

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Originally Posted by Harrie

If you can find a good enough SC second hand and like a linear power delivery and dont have plans for more power later, it might make sense to go for a SC. As I see it in my case its cheaper to SC as I got one free. Now all I need to do is the pipings and divertor valve. I can get away without having a IC also for my planned boost levels.

Also one good thing about SC is if you are a novice driver like me, then it might just be easy to drive a 300bhp fwd SC car than a similar TCed car.

Just my 2 cents.

Which supercharger have you got Harry? A centrifgal or positive displacement? If you are doing 3-4 psi then no IC is required. However your fuelling will have to be taken care. Also if you have Intake/ Header/ exhaust mods....all the better.

Ricky_63 · 14th April 2009, 09:23

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Originally Posted by Psycho

Ricky it would depend on the kit and the ease of tuning for that particular engine type and most of all the driving style.

The engine in question as of now is the g13b (swift), as for driving style, just normal day to day street driving, no races, but yes want that capability for a mind-blowing 0-100 just for the heck of it..

Cheers

Harrie · 14th April 2009, 12:12

@ Ricky - What price quotes are you getting for the SC and TC? I would say go for the turbo for the swift because it has been tried and tested by so many people here on the forum. You can get their feedbacks and probably even test drive a few before you make your mind.

With a supercharger you'll be treading the unknown. Not advisable considering what you went through recently. I would suggest a TC setup that is tuned to give a very linear power delivery like what Psycho had done on the cedia.

kutlee · 14th April 2009, 12:52

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Originally Posted by Harrie

I would suggest a TC setup that is tuned to give a very linear power delivery like what Psycho had done on the cedia.

yes, and an OHC done leniar. beautiful..

v1p3r · 15th April 2009, 01:35

Linear is so boring.

1self · 15th April 2009, 09:00

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

Linear is so boring.

But VERY useable in traffic. One does'nt want to run over a piddly biker on a hero honda now...would one?

iceman91 · 15th April 2009, 10:38

there is a linear RS which I recently drove and seemed very very nice. Tuned by psycho

Vid6639 · 15th April 2009, 10:44

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Originally Posted by iceman91

there is a linear RS which I recently drove and seemed very very nice. Tuned by psycho

Is it a yellow one?

iceman91 · 15th April 2009, 10:52

haha.. yeah THE yellow one.

Ricky_63 · 15th April 2009, 16:29

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

Linear is so boring.

I always found linear power delivery, well nice !!

Cheers

iceman91 · 15th April 2009, 17:45

each one to his own ricky,

I too am a fan of linear delivery.

ananthkamath · 16th April 2009, 00:44

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Originally Posted by iceman91

I have yet to see the cap on the FI package limiting the mods. The cap is the engine in most cases.

Little late in the day, but if that's the case tell me why there are no 400+ hp supercharged 4-cylinders whereas turbocharged are dime-a-dozen.

Also, why almost every single successful FI'd racecar in LeMans has been turbocharged, not supercharged?

Hot Rod magazine, which has long been an advocate of supercharged V8's, recently did a daily-driven 1500 hp Camaro. Everyone contended that you could not achieve the same combo of driveability and power on a supercharged engine.

iceman91 · 16th April 2009, 01:15

so you are still hell bent on changing my viewpoint

Try try
Cheers

ananthkamath · 16th April 2009, 01:23

I dont really give a rolling donut about that

. Just dont want newbies thinking supercharger=turbocharger which its clearly not in my experience. Try both and you'll come back with the same "opinionated" view of FI.

doomsday · 16th April 2009, 07:59

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Originally Posted by ananthkamath

Hot Rod magazine, which has long been an advocate of supercharged V8's, recently did a daily-driven 1500 hp Camaro. Everyone contended that you could not achieve the same combo of driveability and power on a supercharged engine.

Sorry, couldn't infer this from your statement, but you mean that the DD 1500hp Camaro was turbocharged? Sounds interesting, considering the fact that pushrod V8s (I'm assuming its an old-school) aren't very rev-friendly (not including Pro Stockers or Winston Cup spec motors), and more so with application of forced induction.

How many cubic inches is the engine holding? Any online links to the article will be appreciated...

14th April 2009, 12:12	#48
Harrie BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: KA 03, KL 12, TN 38 Posts: 701 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	@ Ricky - What price quotes are you getting for the SC and TC? I would say go for the turbo for the swift because it has been tried and tested by so many people here on the forum. You can get their feedbacks and probably even test drive a few before you make your mind. With a supercharger you'll be treading the unknown. Not advisable considering what you went through recently. I would suggest a TC setup that is tuned to give a very linear power delivery like what Psycho had done on the cedia.
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15th April 2009, 01:35	#50
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	Linear is so boring.
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15th April 2009, 10:38	#52
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	there is a linear RS which I recently drove and seemed very very nice. Tuned by psycho
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15th April 2009, 10:52	#54
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	haha.. yeah THE yellow one.
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15th April 2009, 17:45	#56
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	each one to his own ricky, I too am a fan of linear delivery.
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16th April 2009, 01:15	#58
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	so you are still hell bent on changing my viewpoint Try try Cheers
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16th April 2009, 01:23	#59
ananthkamath Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mangalore Posts: 1,209 Thanked: 80 Times View My Garage	I dont really give a rolling donut about that . Just dont want newbies thinking supercharger=turbocharger which its clearly not in my experience. Try both and you'll come back with the same "opinionated" view of FI. Last edited by ananthkamath : 16th April 2009 at 01:25.
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