Right side lower than Left - Swift & now Dzire!

rajatsingh78 · 8th January 2009, 12:03

Hello Guys,

Last night I noticed that the rear right side (RR) gap between the tyre and the fender was too less as compared to the rear left side (RL), today morning I took some snaps using a measuring tape.

Do you guys think that the rear right side suspension has an issue.

I have attached the pics with this thread -
RL : Rear Left
RL-Close : Rear Left Closeup
RR : Rear Right
RR-Close : Rear Right Closeup

Thanks in advance

aerohit · 8th January 2009, 20:18

This is not really an accurate way to measure.

Also, the driver side is normally slightly heavier, although negligible - (because of steerring components)

ALso, there could be stuff/luggage loaded in the car.

rajatsingh78 · 9th January 2009, 12:10

Aerohit - thanks for the reply, however I have a few questions/info -

- What is the accurate way to measure ?
- This is for the rear wheel so I dont think steering components, that are situated on the right front side, would cause this
- The boot is absolutely empty (only spare wheel and tool, which were always present there)

mura · 9th January 2009, 21:16

Was the car Parked on a level surface?

vipul_singh · 9th January 2009, 23:08

Did you check out this thread?

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...rds-right.html

noidaboy · 10th January 2009, 00:45

DDIS has some issues with rear camber settings.The guys at the company wont bother they say its like this only.Try noticing some new DDIS's on the road and their rear wheels.

white_vdi · 10th January 2009, 01:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by noidaboy

DDIS has some issues with rear camber settings.The guys at the company wont bother they say its like this only.Try noticing some new DDIS's on the road and their rear wheels.

i guess i know what you are talking about. the rear wheels are tilting inwards from the top. am i right noidaboy?

aerohit · 11th January 2009, 20:12

I dont see how this has to do with DDis only

The rear suspension (if you want to call it one) are identical for both petrol and diesel in terms of mechanics.

The only difference i know of is that the Front shocks are more stronger/stiffer inorder to accommodate the heavier diesel engine.

rajatsingh78 · 14th January 2009, 11:03

Thanks guys for your response,
@mura - yes the car was parked at a levelled surface
@vipul - yes I checked the thread
@white vdi - its not the tilting of the wheel in my Vdi its the suspension, the distance between fender and wheel hub is different in rear wheels
@aerohit - yes you are right, however please let me know the correct way to measure what I was measuring

aerohit · 14th January 2009, 13:00

hi rajat, i will find out how to do this

some inputs - make sure the surface on car parked is 100% flat. make sure that you have equal amount of air pressure on all 4 wheels, specially rear left-right and front left-right. You will need to check this with a guage . I am hoping that once you do the following, you are likely to get good measurement.

humm · 14th January 2009, 14:28

That's not the right way to measure your suspension! Tyre often go out of shape with the type of usage, the air pressure can be different, moreover the shockup's are affected with weight, air pressure of the tyre, parking style & level. Sometimes a particular side spring also tends to bend a bit more.

Is the car giving you any bump or jump? any major suspension problem? if not why waste your time on such things?

rajatsingh78 · 14th January 2009, 17:15

@aerohit - thanks for the inputs, will try
@humm - bro...please explain how the tyre pressure/wear etc would matter when I am measuring the disitance between the hub (center of the wheel) to the fender & yes the ride is a bit bumpy plus there is a visible difference of more than an inch

humm · 14th January 2009, 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by rajatsingh78

@humm - bro...please explain how the tyre pressure/wear etc would matter when I am measuring the disitance between the hub (center of the wheel) to the fender & yes the ride is a bit bumpy plus there is a visible difference of more than an inch

Type pressure & wear can make the type height to be less from a particular side, thus resulting in an improper bend.

Note: Check your car's wheel balancing, sometimes a improper balance results in bumpy drive.

aerohit · 14th January 2009, 23:10

double posted by mistake - post delete

D1ISTHE1 · 14th January 2009, 23:24

How is the ride..? do you feel any stiffness lately..?

8th January 2009, 12:03	#1
rajatsingh78 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Agra/Ghaziabad Posts: 291 Thanked: 29 Times	Right side lower than Left - Swift & now Dzire! Hello Guys, Last night I noticed that the rear right side (RR) gap between the tyre and the fender was too less as compared to the rear left side (RL), today morning I took some snaps using a measuring tape. Do you guys think that the rear right side suspension has an issue. I have attached the pics with this thread - RL : Rear Left RL-Close : Rear Left Closeup RR : Rear Right RR-Close : Rear Right Closeup Thanks in advance Attached Thumbnails
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8th January 2009, 20:18	#2
aerohit BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: India Posts: 978 Thanked: 981 Times	This is not really an accurate way to measure. Also, the driver side is normally slightly heavier, although negligible - (because of steerring components) ALso, there could be stuff/luggage loaded in the car.
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9th January 2009, 12:10	#3
rajatsingh78 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Agra/Ghaziabad Posts: 291 Thanked: 29 Times	Aerohit - thanks for the reply, however I have a few questions/info - - What is the accurate way to measure ? - This is for the rear wheel so I dont think steering components, that are situated on the right front side, would cause this - The boot is absolutely empty (only spare wheel and tool, which were always present there)
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9th January 2009, 21:16	#4
mura BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 216 Thanked: 90 Times	Was the car Parked on a level surface?
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9th January 2009, 23:08	#5
vipul_singh BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: BLR / Lucknow Posts: 595 Thanked: 833 Times View My Garage	Did you check out this thread? http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...rds-right.html
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10th January 2009, 00:45	#6
noidaboy BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Noida Posts: 1,003 Thanked: 268 Times View My Garage	DDIS has some issues with rear camber settings.The guys at the company wont bother they say its like this only.Try noticing some new DDIS's on the road and their rear wheels.
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11th January 2009, 20:12	#8
aerohit BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: India Posts: 978 Thanked: 981 Times	I dont see how this has to do with DDis only The rear suspension (if you want to call it one) are identical for both petrol and diesel in terms of mechanics. The only difference i know of is that the Front shocks are more stronger/stiffer inorder to accommodate the heavier diesel engine.
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14th January 2009, 11:03	#9
rajatsingh78 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Agra/Ghaziabad Posts: 291 Thanked: 29 Times	Thanks guys for your response, @mura - yes the car was parked at a levelled surface @vipul - yes I checked the thread @white vdi - its not the tilting of the wheel in my Vdi its the suspension, the distance between fender and wheel hub is different in rear wheels @aerohit - yes you are right, however please let me know the correct way to measure what I was measuring
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14th January 2009, 13:00	#10
aerohit BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: India Posts: 978 Thanked: 981 Times	hi rajat, i will find out how to do this some inputs - make sure the surface on car parked is 100% flat. make sure that you have equal amount of air pressure on all 4 wheels, specially rear left-right and front left-right. You will need to check this with a guage . I am hoping that once you do the following, you are likely to get good measurement.
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14th January 2009, 14:28	#11
humm BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 78 Thanked: 4 Times	That's not the right way to measure your suspension! Tyre often go out of shape with the type of usage, the air pressure can be different, moreover the shockup's are affected with weight, air pressure of the tyre, parking style & level. Sometimes a particular side spring also tends to bend a bit more. Is the car giving you any bump or jump? any major suspension problem? if not why waste your time on such things?
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14th January 2009, 17:15	#12
rajatsingh78 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Agra/Ghaziabad Posts: 291 Thanked: 29 Times	@aerohit - thanks for the inputs, will try @humm - bro...please explain how the tyre pressure/wear etc would matter when I am measuring the disitance between the hub (center of the wheel) to the fender & yes the ride is a bit bumpy plus there is a visible difference of more than an inch
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14th January 2009, 23:10	#14
aerohit BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: India Posts: 978 Thanked: 981 Times	double posted by mistake - post delete Last edited by aerohit : 14th January 2009 at 23:11. Reason: double posted by mistake - post delete
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14th January 2009, 23:24	#15
D1ISTHE1 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: OMNIPRESENT Posts: 120 Thanked: Once View My Garage	How is the ride..? do you feel any stiffness lately..?
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