[ByDesign]

Got my VIN number today. It's a June 2013 manufactured Bolero. Nice and fresh in the stockyard. Hopefully will get to meet her in person tomorrow.

Originally Posted by ankan

You will absolutely love the Bolero. It is an amazing vehicle and it makes u really calm behind the wheel. Here is a pic of my Bolero with Geolanders and alloys.

I'm hoping so too. Your jeep looks awesome. The Geolanders look quite impressive and add quite a bit of body on the car. What spec tires did you get?

Originally Posted by milu2fast

Congrats. My cousin has one and I too find it a bit expensive. Did you by a any chance look at the new sumo as an option? My friend had a storm but the brakes on it made us drive it slower than a breeze. Wishing you lots of trouble free miles and I can vouch for its toughness in imperfect surfaces. Thumps up

I generally developed a slight mental block against Tata due to the plastics and build quality. Not to mention poor servicing experience (personal exp). Thanks!

Originally Posted by GrayBerry

Congrats ByDesign,
The love for your car will keep you smiling for a long time. Happy driving.
I was and am a big big fan of Bolero and almost bought one, my only concern was lack of safty features. Now I drive a Punto Sports and smiling just like you .

I did think about the lack of safety features, but it wasn't a deciding factor in a jeep haha! I've been driving a no-abs, no-ebd, no-airbag for the past 3 years now and it's the best drive ever.

Originally Posted by highwaypatrol

You are not a jeeper , so better stay away from these breeds, as this is meant for serious nuts.

Haha!

Originally Posted by highwaypatrol

No sidewall 75 for 235 tyre pls... It will foul with the fenders when taking hump fully loaded. best upsize is 235/70/R15 which is available in yoko geos with white lettering which looks awesome.....

Again warning you all, pls do not go beyond 70 side wall when upsizing to 235's.

Highwaypatrol

Thanks for the tip. I'll get the 70's.

Originally Posted by Torquedo

Congrats on the booking, did you look at the Sumo Gold as an option (it has better specs), I strongly feel with the rear wheel mounted, it is the closest thing on offering in India to the G63 (would not add the AMG part here ).

See above reply about Tatas. I've seen it on the road and no doubt, it's decent looking, but Tata just doesn't cut it for me. I was so close to booking a Storme, but the amount of negative feedback I got about Tata online just scared me away.

[JediKnight]

ByDesign Congratulations !!! May the JEEP bring lots of happiness in your life. Waiting for the PICS.

Originally Posted by extreme_torque

It is indeed poor quality.

I wonder what would you call a German sedan with amazing fit and finish whose DSG gearbox packs up after two months of use. Poor quality ???

Originally Posted by extreme_torque

As for the hatch back on stilts, name one hatchback which can officially fjord through 550mm of water and has 200 mm ground clearance yet handles beautifully and is good to drive.

Just look under the hood of an eco sport. Front wheel drive transaxle. Mac pherson struts up front. It is more Figo then Endevaour. I have nothing against Eco-sport. Its a fine vehicle. But i thing you are taking the SUV marketing hype by Ford too seriously.

Originally Posted by extreme_torque

To clarify, these are just my opinions and are in no way meant to offend anyone. As you said to each one its own. Peace.

Caution non Jeeper detected. . I rest my case.

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by ByDesign

Got my VIN number today. It's a June 2013 manufactured Bolero. Nice and fresh in the stockyard. Hopefully will get to meet her in person tomorrow.

Congrats! And with the numbers Bolero does month after month, rest assured you will never get an old piece!

When you visited the stockyard, did you see any 'Rocky Beige' Bolero? Never seen one in this color, looks like they introduced it recently.

[ByDesign]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

Congrats! And with the numbers Bolero does month after month, rest assured you will never get an old piece!

When you visited the stockyard, did you see any 'Rocky Beige' Bolero? Never seen one in this color, looks like they introduced it recently.

Rocky beige is more of a military green. And no, there were none in the stockyard. The only colors there were Diamond White, Fiery Black, and a couple of Mist Silvers. The missing colors were Toreador Red, Java Brown, and Rocky Beige.

[ByDesign]

Note to Mod* - Please merge if necessary.

Payments for the car are now complete. Interestingly enough, the car whose VIN number was communicated to me was erroneously sold to someone else. Another black ZLX was sent to the showroom for me, and during inspection, I noted that according to the VIN number, this new one was made AFTER the previous one. The previous one had a serial number of 097 and the new one was 104, the rest of the code was identical.

The problem was, this piece was a showroom one, and had a lot of optional accessories already mounted on it. I had the alloys and bull guard removed, but they couldn't remove the rain visors and chrome scuff plates due to the adhesive/breaking off of the parts etc. I managed to get the visors thrown in for free (they actually pretty awesome on a black bolero), and paid almost landing price for the scuff plates. I liked the scuff plates a lot.

Waiting for registration now, hopefully will take deliver in the next few days.

[FourWheelDrift]

Congratulations on your purchase, ByDesign.

Like milu2fast and Torquedo, I too would like to understand why you preferred the Bolero over the Sumo Gold.

I completely understand your initial response i.e. mental block against TATA on account of previous service experiences.

However, on the product side, I don't.

If it all possible, could you please check out the Sumo Gold at a local dealer and revert with your observations ?

I have recently had an opportunity to look at and drive / be driven in both these vehicles (both were BS4 variants) together over a few days on varying terrain ... and I was quite surprised by how differently the 2 vehicles performed.

Cheers,

FourWheelDrift

[milu2fast]

I don't think he can check out the sumo but I am looking forward to get info regarding sumo gold because I can't seem to get much in T-bhp. Has anybody had any experience??? From what I see I expect it to be much better than the older version.

[n.devdath]

Originally Posted by milu2fast

From what I see I expect it to be much better than the older version.

The Sumo Gold is a vastly improved Sumo now and apart from the absence of a 4WD and the taxi image, is a much more comfortable, spacious and smooth vehicle compared to the Bolero.

[ByDesign]

Originally Posted by FourWheelDrift

Congratulations on your purchase, ByDesign.

Like milu2fast and Torquedo, I too would like to understand why you preferred the Bolero over the Sumo Gold.

I completely understand your initial response i.e. mental block against TATA on account of previous service experiences.

However, on the product side, I don't.

If it all possible, could you please check out the Sumo Gold at a local dealer and revert with your observations ?

I have recently had an opportunity to look at and drive / be driven in both these vehicles (both were BS4 variants) together over a few days on varying terrain ... and I was quite surprised by how differently the 2 vehicles performed.

Cheers,

FourWheelDrift

Well it's a tad late now. I've already paid the full down payment on my car, so I'm going to have to give this one a pass.

Originally Posted by n.devdath

The Sumo Gold is a vastly improved Sumo now and apart from the absence of a 4WD and the taxi image, is a much more comfortable, spacious and smooth vehicle compared to the Bolero.

So I've heard too. Maybe it was time I went with Mahindra. Tata can be my next car

[ankan]

Originally Posted by ByDesign

I'm hoping so too. Your jeep looks awesome. The Geolanders look quite impressive and add quite a bit of body on the car. What spec tires did you get?

Thanks! the specs are the same as you have mentioned about getting, tires are good and they sure look great after a wash. The white lettering makes it very attractive.
And don't worry this jeep will not give you any trouble. It will happily go anywhere and is rock stable even at speeds of 130kmph(Speedo reading).

[Ashley Nair]

That is my Bolero easily wading the floods of Kerala, June 2013. For the last 72,000 kms , it has never let me down -whether it be road or slime. And I don't think more sales in urban area is a compliment to any vehicle

[ankan]

One more thing I forgot to mention about these geolanders is that they splash a lot of water onto the windscreen, which can be blinding at times on the highway. And the next is they make you car really really dirty after the rains. Muck can sometimes reach inside the cabin if windows are open. Have to put a mud flap along the wheel well to stop this, but I have not done it yet.

[drsingh]

Originally Posted by milu2fast

I don't think he can check out the sumo but I am looking forward to get info regarding sumo gold because I can't seem to get much in T-bhp. Has anybody had any experience??? From what I see I expect it to be much better than the older version.

Its much improved.ive TD riven the çr4 variant. It was in the city and i loved the low end torque in traffic.low NVH. Good driving position with excellent visibility. Seats are better than bolero.switches are shared with indigo. The all black interiors look better than bolero.

The bolero came across as tacky. I didnt TD the bolero cause it was too cramped for me.i banged my head and i could not see the rear windscreen through the orvm.

You should take a TD. And add your perspective to the scant SUMO presence on the forum.

[extreme_torque]

Originally Posted by JediKnight

I wonder what would you call a German sedan with amazing fit and finish whose DSG gearbox packs up after two months of use. Poor quality ???

Poorly engineered.

Originally Posted by JediKnight

Just look under the hood of an eco sport. Front wheel drive transaxle. Mac pherson struts up front. It is more Figo then Endevaour. I have nothing against Eco-sport. Its a fine vehicle. But i thing you are taking the SUV marketing hype by Ford too seriously.

On the contrary, I was replying to your comment on EcoSport being a hatchback on stilts. Its more than that and I know for a fact that its not a hardcore offroader and it never will be.

Originally Posted by JediKnight

Caution non Jeeper detected. . I rest my case.

And how's Bolero a Jeep?

[ByDesign]

Originally Posted by Ashley Nair

That is my Bolero easily wading the floods of Kerala, June 2013. For the last 72,000 kms , it has never let me down -whether it be road or slime. And I don't think more sales in urban area is a compliment to any vehicle

Looks good! I really like the second pic. Are those stock tires? Has it had any tire changes/upgrades? How is the ride comfort and performance?

What are those fitted on the front grill? Are they extra lights? How much do they cost?

Originally Posted by ankan

One more thing I forgot to mention about these geolanders is that they splash a lot of water onto the windscreen, which can be blinding at times on the highway. And the next is they make you car really really dirty after the rains. Muck can sometimes reach inside the cabin if windows are open. Have to put a mud flap along the wheel well to stop this, but I have not done it yet.

Why would water from the tires splash onto the windscreen? I don't understand this point. Those points that you have mentioned cause me to seriously rethink upsizing the tires.

If Ashley's tank has done 72000 kms without a tire upgrade, then I might just go with stock too.