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BHPian ![]() | A Transformation: Beast to Baby! Tata Safari to Honda City VX CVT What a surprise! I myself never expected to write a "ownership" review of Honda City here. ![]() ![]() Its the need that drives us what we have to drive ! Background I am coming from Tata Safari [2010 VX] and you would find those details in My Safari. Most of my assessment/comparison is based on my prior experience with my Safari. I am yet to write a "closing" thread on my Safari thread which I plan to do in next few days. Probably, I will ask the new buyer to continue updating the same. A couple of phases in my "this" ownership.
It all started in 2014 Aug/Sep when I decided I want to acquire an AT machine as my permanent drive. The only reason to go for AT is the pathetic Bangalore traffic adding more and more strain to my ankles and stress to body/mind/heart. List of vehicles that I considered then
VW Vento was the winner for its obvious reasons though I was aware of its service and DSG issues. My family thought otherwise - Simply rejected Vento after being in Safari for 4 years, especially my 9 yr and 4 yr old daughters. Hunt 1 in vain. Continued with my Safari An interim success This was the time-frame [Sep 2014] M&M came up with a deep 1.3L discount for E2O [80KM range], as a promotional/limited time offer, that too only for Bangalore location. The offer included all the features of 120KM range onto the 80KM machine [but for the battery upgrade]. Immediately called up for the TD. Of course, I liked its simplicity to say the least. For my first TD, though it came home, none other than me were interested in getting inside the car [trust me]. I just went for a quick drive and felt, this is it. But, obviously, I cant sell my Safari and get E2O as the only car. My half of miles will be on highway to my native or Madras twice a quarter. I had to go away for a week and I just put this decision on hold. I got a call from the SA while I was away saying the offer is for "limited time and stock". I responded "If the offer is available when I return, I will buy. If not, I will skip". I came back to Bangalore, discussed with my family. They, then wanted to try once again. Called again for a TD, my family started liking the cuteness of E2O and wondered about the space inside the small cabin. Still, it was neutral from my family. Yet, I went ahead and completed the booking formalities to get a Silver colour E2O. Hunt Again [New Alternatives] Come Nov/Dec 2015, I understood I am under utilising both the Safari and E2O for both of its value. E2O is definitely a great car if one has a well defined requirement and have 2 drivers [at least] at home. This is where I erred in defining my requirement. Decided to sell it off and I found a good buyer as well. Thanks to him and I have high regards for him. However, my requirement to AT didnt change. As a matter of fact, got further strengthened. Slowly, my family too started realising that my need of AT is not just a show-off, but a real need [more of a medical need for my ankles]. Machines short listed Hyundai Creta ATThe U Turn on Friday On my way to office, I was just talking to my wife about Honda Jazz AT that my colleague got recently and that may fit our requirement ! Immediate response - "Honda ?" would be way too expensive. So, lets not even consider that. I said, "you are right". Came to office and the first thing I checked - Carwale and Honda Jazz V AT pricing. It was less than 10 Lakhs all inclusive ! I just couldnt resist. Alerted my kids at home to be ready for a quick Jazz[y] visit to the near by Honda showroom [Whitefield Honda]. I had to use all my management talks to my daughters to be "open" while looking at the Jazz since its not as big as XUV/Safari [probably, just half the size]. Yet, it meets our requirement, etc ... We entered the showroom and the SA greeted us warm. Went straight to the Jazz and the only statement I told the SA "You have another couple of hours time to either make me a Honda or M&M customer. Its upto you". He understood and spent about 2 hours with me explaining all the things and the TD at about 6:15PM in the busy Whitefield/Outer ring road junction near KR Puram hanging bridge. I never cared about the traffic because thats the main reason I am buying it and I had no doubt of its highway capabilities. Came back from the TD satisfied and everyone in my family seems interested and convinced with the cute look and feel of Jazz. I then, put a "hold" to XUV500 and started the negotiation with Whitefield Honda for my Safari and the final pricing, etc ... The negotiation in pricing was only because of the Nov 2015 model that was readily available and I had no issues in picking up a 3+ months old Jazz from them. If its 2016 vehicle, then, there is a waiting period of 1+ month and absolutely no discounts. I didnt explore much about these anyway. On the way back, my wife started with me about the Honda City that was parked next to the Jazz in the showroom. I said "NO, I am not driving City after driving Safari". She said "OK" and I was surprised ! My cousin [same guy who accompanied for the XUV] came the next day for another round of TD. This time, went on better speed on outer ring road. No issues, again. This is when, my cousin started "Honda City" talk. By the time, my daughters went up and down on the sun-roof with City VX ! Thats it, entire family but for me were inside the City in no time. I had no other choice but to take the drivers' seat in the showroom. What a feel ! It was too comfortable and I started liking the seating position, feel of the stearing, the dash layout, the AT stick, etc ... Got out and entered the rear seat and to my surprise, it was not bad at all. It was all comfortable, for full three adults and probably, 4 thinned as well. Sunday morning, we all went to TD the Honda City CVT. Good feel and I could just see the power difference b/w the Jazz And City. I definitely, felt the lazy Jazz after driving the City [in D mode]. In S mode, its even better with a slight push in power. But, hey, dont compare with the Vento TSI. I am sure, there are a whole lot of other things that we get in City VX CVT as compared to the Vento TSI. So, I didnt even go back to Vento ! Everyone decided on the City and I fell in line ![]() Booking & Delivery [Road to success] Here again, there were a couple of Nov 2015 City available and while checking up the colours, the "Urban Titanium" was available which was everyone's choice [I didnt have one though] and with whatever I bargained for, I got most of it. I am happy at the end of it. Delivery process was smooth as well. The SA and his lead [SA being a junior] took about 2 hours to complete the DEMO and paper works. Finally, I ended up on a Wednesday evening, peak traffic b/w ITPL and KR Puram [The famous Whitefield road]. The drive was effortless and I need to learn quite a few things as the transformation from Safari to City is going to take some time ![]() Oh ! About my Safari, my cousin [same guy who came with me for all three TD's] bought it from me. So, my Safari is still within my family circle. Pricing, Warranty and offers Being the 2015 Nov manufactured, with whatever I could bargain, following are offers that I could extract Honda City VX CVT, 1.5 Petrol Cash discount - 30,000/- Free Accessories - Essential kit, City step illumination, Sports pedal, Window Visor, Honda Connect Free Bumper to Bumper insurance - had to pay for the "comprehensive" part though Extended Warranty - taken for 4 years Net On The Road price - 13.23 Lakhs Me getting into the "Driver" side. Co-driver is my cousin [not the one who bought Safari, but have an Ertiga already] ![]() Checklist that was followed religiously. Of course, my daughters got bored and involved in photography ![]() Pooja time ![]() Family time, just before driving away ![]() Standing next to me is Mr. Sreejesh, my sales adviser ![]() Driving away from Showroom, a good feel ![]() A contrasting comparison - Beast to Baby transformation ![]() Accessories from Whitefield Honda
Add-ons from 3M [Hopefarm, Whitefield]
This is the 3rd 3M store that I am interacting with. The owner is Mr. Kumar [dont know his full name though]. Either Mr. Kumar is not pushing any products/services to the customer OR pushing in a way that we dont consider "pushing". Hope, am clear. He takes his time to explain each and everything to the max level of details. More importantly, he doesnt mind to explain over and over again if you still have question ! Coming back to the products/services, I got 10% discount on their list price and got the "Silencer coat" as complimentary. I really need to understand what this coating though. Not sure of this purpose either ! Overall, a very neat job done by this store as compared to my other 2 experiences [Indra nagar and Marathahalli]. Looking at the mats there, I got a wild thought. I took a few samples home and discussed with my wife to get them for domestic use as well. I know, this may be on expensive side, but, I see its value already ! Exterior styling Simply put "No non-sense design" or "No offensive design". Most I like
In City Drive so far Did about a full tank [35 Litres] of City drive on my new City. Went around 280+ KMs with it, the first tank full. I am definitely feeling the joy of AT [CVT in this case]. My Home-Office is the one of the most painful [Kundanahalli to Domlur through the ITPL road and Marathahalli areas] in Bangalore traffic. There is absolutely no traffic-free time in a day/night for these areas ! In all this traffic mess, am able to maneuver the City pretty well, just in D mode. As expected, CVT doesnt have the sudden push and rush. But, I just stopped having that need any more. May be, the age is kicking in ! Honestly, I dont see a need or requirement of that sudden/powerful pull in the city that I drive, anyway. Mileage so far - 8.7 KMPL Highway Drive so far This is what I was waiting for, since the day I got the City. Tirupathi was the destination. This time again [yes, we went to Tirupathi after taking Safari, in 2010 March]. Tirupathi is about 250 KMs from my home. Roadway - 120 KMs of NH4 [proper 2+2 highway with the median] and the other 120+ KMs is a simple Highway without median. My drive was about 25% of day-drive and the rest all night-drive. As a matter of fact, while returning [Tirupathi to Bangalore], we started from Tirupathi @ 9:30PM and reached Bangalore [home] by 2:30AM. Mileage - 16 KMPL Highway observation
End with more snaps Key-less entry [button in black] ![]() "CITY" Step illumination ![]() Colour Themes of the ICE ![]() Foot well with sports pedal fit ![]() Frontal overview ! ![]() A Clear rear space ![]() Never expected this badge/vehicle would find my home ! ![]() ![]() Clear ODO view - I like the lettering, colour and everything about this ![]() Wing mirrors fold the other side - good ! ![]() Ticket storage - small, yet a good one. ![]() Finally, the SUN ROOF - my daughters' choice ![]() Consolidated - What I like
Prem. Last edited by GTO : 15th March 2016 at 10:34. Reason: Taking live |
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Team-BHP Support ![]() ![]() | Re: A Transformation: Beast to Baby! Tata Safari to Honda City VX CVT Thread moved from the Assembly Line to the Initial Ownership Section. Thanks for sharing! |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | Re: A Transformation: Beast to Baby! Tata Safari to Honda City VX CVT Quote:
![]() While scouting for a new car myself about 2 years back, Honda City was never in my radar because I primarily wanted a diesel engine and the I-Dtec was not very impressive for the price it demanded. But hands down, there was no other car that offered the plushness and space the City did, which it still continues to this day. Wishing you a happy motoring and drive safe. ![]() | |
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| Re: A Transformation: Beast to Baby! Tata Safari to Honda City VX CVT Quote:
Then on the way back, decided to just try the new Honda City and took it for a spin and was sold and made the booking the next day. Two years on and I couldn't be happier with its comfort, drivability, fresh feel on very long journeys (took it on a 4570 KM long trip recently! http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/travel...ujarat-me.html) and go anywhere suspension and practical ground clearance for Indian conditions. Doing a test drive is the most critical factor, every thing becomes crystal clear from the buyer's perspective and personal preference only after getting behind the wheel and getting that real feel. Last edited by for_cars1 : 17th March 2016 at 11:12. | |
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| Re: A Transformation: Beast to Baby! Tata Safari to Honda City VX CVT Congratulations on your new beauty! My friend and I picked up our Citys' (both VX-MTs'), last month on the same day (coincidentally). I got mine in Alabaster Silver and he picked the same colour as yours. Loving the car so far. Did you opt for Honda Connect? I was curious to hear from other users' about their experience with it. |
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BHPian ![]() | Re: A Transformation: Beast to Baby! Tata Safari to Honda City VX CVT Quote:
I had a huge doubt with the rear seat earlier, but not anymore. Quote:
yes, I got the Honda Connect as part of my deal. Its a good to have device. We can do a few things easily with it. Like Booking the service, fuel log, etc . I am yet to explore more though. Prem. | ||
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| Re: A Transformation: Beast to Baby! Tata Safari to Honda City VX CVT Congratulations Kaviprem on your new purchase! Wishing you many happy years with your baby! Two questions for you, as you are in Bangalore. 1. How is the ground clearance of the car. Do you scrape it's belly on speed humps? 2. Why didn't you wait for the face-lift that is about to be launched later this year? |
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BHPian ![]() | Re: A Transformation: Beast to Baby! Tata Safari to Honda City VX CVT Quote:
1. Ground clearance - much better than the earlier generation of the City. Yet, low. So, we need to be slow on raised bumps and poor roads. Coming from the Safari, its very hard for me slow down on the bumps and patchy roads, but learning to do so. 2. I didnt know that there is face lift coming. But, I remember the face lift might not hit the show room before 2017. In either case, I wouldnt have waited since my need for a AT was growing stronger day by day. Appreciate your questions ! Prem. | |
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| Re: A Transformation: Beast to Baby! Tata Safari to Honda City VX CVT That is quite a roller coaster ride. From the Safari to the Vento to E20 to XUV to Jazz and finally the City ![]() Glad that you closed on the car that best fit both you and your family's expectations and requirements. Interested to hear more on Honda Connect once you explore it more Congratulations and wish you all the best. Last edited by Rajeevraj : 17th March 2016 at 21:53. |
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BHPian ![]() | Re: A Transformation: Beast to Baby! - 1000 KM update First service completed - 1 month / 1000 KM. Looking for a proof ? Spot the stain on this pic. ![]() Who said its only Tata who splashes the grease/oil/polish ? At least, I have seen the grease only in the door hinges, not up against the Dash as in this case with Honda ![]() Service Center - Whitefield Honda, B Narayanapura Day of Service - Monday morning Time entered - 8:45AM Time attended by a Service Advisor - 8:55AM Time of exit after handing over the car - 9:10AM Delivery promised - 4:00PM Problems reported 1. Whenever I had to release brakes very slowly, either on the ramp out of my home parking OR in some dead-slow moving traffic, there is a jamming [kat kat kat] sound comes out. Not sure, if I explain here clearly. SA promptly noted it down. 2. The Door visor started peeling out in one of the side. SA said it would be fixed properly. Not to worry. SA wanted me to do the Teflon coating. I said "NO, not needed". I called and checked by 3:30PM if I can come by 4:00PM and I was told by come by 4:30PM since they are still working on my car. Should I say "There is no courtesy with the Honda Service team to call me and update" ? I reached the service center by 4:30PM and Front desk asked me wait in the customer lounge. Talking of customer lounge experience, it was no different than how it was in Concorde [Begur gate] except that they had a couple of snack counter for sale ! Trying to make some quick bucks ? Around 4:45PM, I lost patience and checked with SA. He said, the visor is getting fixed right. Correct, what else I reported in the morning for the 1st service ? Another 5 mins, ie) 5:00PM, my car came out. Final bill - ZERO. 1st Service Experience - NEUTRAL. BTW, the brake noise problem still prevails. I believe, its not a problem unless someone knows about it. Prem. |
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| Re: A Transformation: Beast to Baby! Tata Safari to Honda City VX CVT Dude.....the road is always full of surprises. I saw your signature line this morning & wanted to query, this post was co-incidental. I pray that I do not get distracted & TATA does deliver this time. Have fun & safe driving !! |
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BHPian ![]() | Re: A Transformation: Beast to Baby! Tata Safari to Honda City VX CVT Quote:
![]() Are you waiting for a Tata vehicle that would suit your requirement ? Thanks for your wishes and Good luck [if you are waiting] Prem. | |
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Keeping my fingers crossed for the Hexa. I am quite positive. | |
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| Re: A Transformation: Beast to Baby! Tata Safari to Honda City VX CVT Hi Prem - How did i miss this thread? ![]() Many congratulations on your new Baby Ride. Your thread now motivates me to start my own shift from a Safari GX to the Innova Z now. Loved reading this. |
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BHPian ![]() | Re: A Transformation: Beast to Baby! Tata Safari to Honda City VX CVT Quote:
![]() I skipped Innova, only because the current avatar doesnt have AT option. I definitely cant wait till the next gen Innova comes in, but am also very sure its going to be priced at north of 25L for the high end AT version. Good luck ! Prem. | |
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