[vjkamal]

Originally Posted by ajmat

Spare wheel is an 18" steel space saver shod with 125/80 section rubber. It is small and skinny and leaves a massive gap in the wheel well:

So no matter if you buy a Maruti or Volvo, you are always in for a shock as far as the spare wheel is concerned. 125/80 R18 (if I read that correct). Seriously?? That's thinner than a stock Nano's tyre.

Thumbs up for the review!

[reignofchaos]

Originally Posted by speedguy

Great review. Rated 5 stars.
However I didn't like the tail lamp design. Looks like a 'Ganapati' Decoration IMHO

That is how Volvo tail lamps have been for a long long time now and they have had this design long before the Tatas. Nothing new in that!

[abhishek46]

Originally Posted by vjkamal

So no matter if you buy a Maruti or Volvo, you are always in for a shock as far as the spare wheel is concerned. 125/80 R18 (if I read that correct). Seriously?? That's thinner than a stock Nano's tyre.

I would say, that is still better than having no spare wheel at all (some BMWs) or having an impractical Spare wheel placement (Mercedes C Class, GLA, CLA etc).

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by speedguy

Great review. Rated 5 stars.
However I didn't like the tail lamp design. Looks like a 'Ganapati' Decoration IMHO
And predictably nobody would question this so called 'outdated' design which Tata cars got bashing all the time.
V is better than T in logo I guess

buddy! Where did TATA come from!

Beauty sure is subjective! Yesterday only we had this discussion about the V90 cross country in a group chat and the majority was of the opinion that it an a sexy design. I honestly feel that if any car could make estates looks sexy in the market again - it is this one.

The lines are solid like most Germans without swoopy curves, but that would ensure it would age well too! Tail lamps might look outdated in pics, but look signature Volvo out on the roads.

[baahubali]

Originally Posted by vjkamal

So no matter if you buy a Maruti or Volvo, you are always in for a shock as far as the spare wheel is concerned. 125/80 R18 (if I read that correct). Seriously?? That's thinner than a stock Nano's tyre.

Thumbs up for the review!

That is done purposefully by all manufacturers. Reason being - driving with an uncomfortable tyre will push the driver to get the punctured tyre repaired ASAP.

Why do they want you to repair the tyre ASAP? So that you always have a replacement tyre available when required.

[vjkamal]

Originally Posted by baahubali

That is done purposefully by all manufacturers. Reason being - driving with an uncomfortable tyre will push the driver to get the punctured tyre repaired ASAP.

Why do they want you to repair the tyre ASAP? So that you always have a replacement tyre available when required.

Agreed. On a lighter note, what's your take on the manufacturers who don't provide a spare wheel? They want you get stranded on the road in case of a flat tyre?

My point here is that when the cars, that are far below the segment can provide full sized alloy spare wheels, it is surprising to see why can't Volvo do it with the V90 considering the mammoth size it has to offer behind the 2nd row. At least, they could have provided a decent cross section steel unit as a spare.

[speedguy]

Tail lamps might look outdated in pics, but look signature Volvo out on the roads.

Sure. After all it is Volvo!
Any way, we'll conclude that beauty lies in the eyes of the admirer
But hey, no questions about its presence. As you said, it surely is best looking estate in the town. (Except those neon sign type tail lamps of course!)

[mjumrani]

Originally Posted by abhishek46

On a side note, in view of recent bad experiences reported by a few Volvo buyers on TBHP, I feel that the dealerships part of the Cons section could be modified to state the same.


http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...rice-list.html

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...rs-mumbai.html

First issue was resolved after I contacted Volvo India.

Second one was resolved within 24hours and OP did PM me saying he got the RC , not sure why he hasn't updated the thread.

Originally Posted by ashwin1224

Imo, massage/heated seats should have been optional, either in the front or the back. Majority of these cars will be chauffeured so makes no sense to give them in the front as standard. Also does the rear seat recline back? This was a major concern while my fayher bought his luxury SUV a few years back. None of the flagships had this feature while Innova and Xylo had them since forever.

I had the same question when I got my XC90 and mailed Volvo India asking same , their logic is that the car was designed with EU being the major market where cars are self driven and not chauffeur driven. The cars sold here are of UK specifications and hence the heated seats in the front and rear.

Originally Posted by speedguy

Great review. Rated 5 stars.
However I didn't like the tail lamp design. Looks like a 'Ganapati' Decoration IMHO
And predictably nobody would question this so called 'outdated' design which Tata cars got bashing all the time.
V is better than T in logo I guess

The tail lamp design is Volvo's signature since ages, it's easy to notice a Volvo on road with those lights.

Originally Posted by vjkamal

My point here is that when the cars, that are far below the segment can provide full sized alloy spare wheels, it is surprising to see why can't Volvo do it with the V90 considering the mammoth size it has to offer behind the 2nd row. At least, they could have provided a decent cross section steel unit as a spare.

Space in the boot is the answer mate. The cars with air suspension have cylinders in the spare wheel well area. I don't see anything wrong with the small spare wheel size. It's a norm across all German brands (if they give one).In the last 7+ years of driving and owning close to 6 cars only once i have used the spare wheel.

[ajmat]

Originally Posted by ashwin1224

Imo, massage/heated seats should have been optional, either in the front or the back. Majority of these cars will be chauffeured so makes no sense to give them in the front as standard. Also does the rear seat recline back? This was a major concern while my fayher bought his luxury SUV a few years back. None of the flagships had this feature while Innova and Xylo had them since forever.

Most Volvo's globally are self driven. Considering the expanding Chinese segment, this could be a later addition

Originally Posted by abhishek46

I would say, that is still better than having no spare wheel at all (some BMWs) or having an impractical Spare wheel placement (Mercedes C Class, GLA, CLA etc).

As far as I know, Volvo SUV's apart, none of the existing Volvo's excluding the S90 come with a spare. Later on, they did provide a space blocker a la Mercedes/BMW

Originally Posted by vjkamal

My point here is that when the cars, that are far below the segment can provide full sized alloy spare wheels, it is surprising to see why can't Volvo do it with the V90 considering the mammoth size it has to offer behind the 2nd row. At least, they could have provided a decent cross section steel unit as a spare.

It's not easy, the only way is to mount it upright in the boot like the Audi Q7 but I dont think there is enough space. Back in my younger days, wheels barely crossed 195mm in width and boot floors were deeper.

[octane_100]

A beautiful vehicle and a fantastic review. This looks like the only car you will ever need. It can take care of business, leisure, work and play all with equal aplomb.

[baskar]

This is one heck of a car. It does everything. Superb review, Rated 5*.

[ajmat]

Originally Posted by octane_100

A beautiful vehicle and a fantastic review. This looks like the only car you will ever need. It can take care of business, leisure, work and play all with equal aplomb.

Originally Posted by baskar

This is one heck of a car. It does everything. Superb review, Rated 5*.

What I find disappointing is that I have not seen any on the road since I tested the car during early July. It deserves better!

[hearsh]

What a fantastic review. I feel wagons in general deserve a much better places in Indian roads. After driving s station wagon ( Subaru Outback 2015) for last three years I couldn't have been happier. Volvo V 90 Cross country takes wagon life to a new level. Here are few station wagons that I see here in US in day to day basis :--

Subaru Outback
Volvo V 90
VW Golf Sportswagon
Audi All road

[ajmat]

Originally Posted by ajmat

What I find disappointing is that I have not seen any on the road since I tested the car during early July. It deserves better!

I spoke too soon, saw a white one in the Club today

[jalajprakash]

Originally Posted by vjkamal

My point here is that when the cars, that are far below the segment can provide full sized alloy spare wheels, it is surprising to see why can't Volvo do it with the V90 considering the mammoth size it has to offer behind the 2nd row. At least, they could have provided a decent cross section steel unit as a spare.

A full sized spare is not provided because a full 20" wheel with a tire mounted can be quite heavy and Volvo does not expect the owner to undertake an impromptu weight training session if there is a flat. That small wheel and tire combo is very easy to swap and owner is expected to stop at the next possible repair shop to get the flat fixed and the wheel put back on.

We are used to swapping a full sized spare (usually wheels are smaller than 16") on our indigenous cars and then fixing the flat at a later date at which point the previously punctured tire now stays on as the spare.