[download2live]

Originally Posted by PaddleShifter

Hi. It may be the coil springs or the struts. You should get them checked as they are under warranty.

BTW, suspensions(struts etc) are covered only till 30000kms or 4 years whichever comes earlier. Though you have a lot of distance to cover to hit the 30000km mark.

Ok. I will get it checked.
I hope its just a nut loose somewhere. By the way here is a small example of forgiving nature of Punto.

If you manage to do this while reversing the car out of parking, fear not. You can just put it back. It snaps back into its place with a little push. As simple as that.

[PaddleShifter]

Plus, I've read that the whole mirror assembly including electrical can be changed for about Rs800 + Rs400 for painting. Total Rs1200.

Besides, one can buy it in parts as well to save further.

ORVM Stalk/base- Rs20
Mirror cap- Rs230
Mirror- Rs100
and so on.

No doubt Fiat now ranks number 2 in customer service as per JD power asia pacific CSI rankings. Just behind Maruti and ahead of Hyundai, Toyota and Honda.

[MCR]

Originally Posted by download2live

Guys,
One question.

Lately I am hearing a gentle dull knocking kind of sound from the car rear right. This started after the car went through some bad roads in coorg trip.

Its not regular tick tock kind of noise. Just a dull knock. As if some pebble were rolling inside the fibre bumper. What I mean is that it does not seem to a metal to metal grinding noise.

To give you a better idea this sound is something similar to what i heard when the reversing light was broken and dangling in the socket. But I checked the right rear reflector and it was snugly fit in the socket.

Any cause of concern? Should I take it to the service station?

OT: Just got the sms "FIAT is ranked no.2 in JD Power........"

I also had the same issue. The noise goes away after lubricating the "C" arm of the suspension joint. please find enclosed the link to my original post.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/1962151-post228.html

Happy Punting.

[download2live]

Originally Posted by MCR

I also had the same issue. The noise goes away after lubricating the "C" arm of the suspension joint. please find enclosed the link to my original post.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/1962151-post228.html

Happy Punting.

Hey even more info. Super cool. Will take the car and ask it to be done.

[download2live]

Yesterday I took my Punto to Concorde asking them to investigate a rolling kind of dull sound coming from rear right.
You wont believe what I was told.

As per suggestion of fellow bhpian MCR i wanted to get C arm of suspension lubricated. In his case that solved the problem.

When car was hoisted I asked the guy where is C arm of suspension joint. He was clueless.
He asked another one. He was also clueless.
They just tried tightening up any random screw they found.

He: "Saar we checked everything. Its totally fine".
Me: "Cant you just lubricate some suspension joints then? Maybe that will help"
He: "Saar there is no need to lubricate. These parts need no lubrication. Its use and throw. If anything goes bad we will replace the whole thing."

I came back. I won't go about bashing FIAT after I have seen what is happening to other car owners. This bad attitude is common to all brands I guess. Just see the way i20 steering rattle is giving owners sleepless nights. As long as the regular servicing is needed its fine. Moment it is something technically deep the true colours come out.

All I can say is that we Indians will never change.
Now can anyone guide me how I can do anything related to this myself?
I don't mind crawling under the car.

[download2live]

Update:
This time instead of quickservice bay I booked a slot and gave the car to Concorde Motors for the noise issue. The SA also agreed that there was a sound. And he took the car in. I gave the car on wednesday and they returned the car on Monday. Yup. They kept the car for that long.
Seems that they have a FIAT supplied checklist for diagnosing the problems. They exhausted the list around Friday wothout any resoulution. The guy working on it was however a very courteous man. He said that they will be contacting the FIAT pune guys and ask for help. And with a great confidence and resolve said that he will make sure that the problem is fixed, no matter what. Way to go. On Monday the SA called me up and told that the car will be delivered. They are trying out the fix suggested by the FIAT pune guys. If it works well and fine. Or else they will put the car together and return it. The FIAT guys will be called on the wednesday and the car will be collected again and they will work on it.
Called me in the evening of Monday again. Said that the problem is fixed. I can go and collect the car. In case the problem remains I can inform them. But from their side they were considering the problem fixed. Collected the car on Monday itself. And the noise isgone.
These events happened around two weeks or so ago but I thought it will be better to drive it well and long before updating that the noise is indeed gone.
The culprit?
Rear suspension pad. Replaced. No charge.
My rating?
8 out of 10.
They should try to exhaust that list a bit faster.
Otherwise the experience with them has been good.

[Newpunter]

That's good to hear. I also seem to have heard this rolling kind of noise once on my Punto recently, when i started it after more than 10 days. But I haven't heard it again since then. But if it does come back, I now know what to check .

[download2live]

One query guys. As I informed earlier the car was given to concorde motors for rear suspension noise. The car was returned with problem solved. However one thing is strange. The MID has been reset, I mean the Trip A and B data are gone. The clock is reset and so on. Of course the total kms covered data is intact.

Is this normal? Does pulling out wires as a part of dismantling the rear in anyway resets the electronics? Or was the Battery disconnected for a while which resulted in that?

[Newpunter]

I think the battery was disconnected. I had the same issue when I gave my car to Carnation for repainting my door. Nothing to worry i guess.

[magnanimousdude]

I think any of those either the battery or the pulling of wires would have casued it, since as per the manual they say if you are going to park for long time i mean long days. "disconnect the battery terminals". so with this piece of information i think it cannot be reset from battery terminals OUT. Pulling of the wires will certainly not cause the reset when the engine is OFF IMO. I heard from some that they have a laptop kind of stuff which will check the CHip and processor performance when connected (this is mordern way of finding faults). With that i believe they can rest which ever fields they want. Better check this out from FIAT Service.

[bhp_maniac]

Originally Posted by download2live

One query guys. As I informed earlier the car was given to concorde motors for rear suspension noise. The car was returned with problem solved. However one thing is strange. The MID has been reset, I mean the Trip A and B data are gone. The clock is reset and so on. Of course the total kms covered data is intact.

Is this normal? Does pulling out wires as a part of dismantling the rear in anyway resets the electronics? Or was the Battery disconnected for a while which resulted in that?

No need to worry on this. They've done an intentional ECU reset by disconnecting the battery. That's the only cause for this. In most cases, while diagnosing issues they keep idling the engine for long, do some spirited drivings etc. and all it may cause the ECU to learn some unwanted habits So before they hand over the car to customer, they do an ECU reset so that the ECU will again learn the owner's driving style. Once ECU is reset, everything other than the ODO meter will get reset which includes your trip meter, clock etc. So no worries.

[download2live]

Time to celebrate one more milestone, 10000 km covered. Achieved rather late but better late than never.



Rear left tyre seems to have a nail or something. Second time it is showing a pressure of 19 while rest show a 32. Will try to get the DIY tubeless tyre repair kit and fix it myself.

[download2live]

One small question.
Read everywhere that mjd engine come into its own after 10k on odo. That it opens up. And so on.
What exactly it means?
What are the changes we are looking at in terms of engine performance?
Coz to me it still seems to be the same. Might be cause that I am driving it regularly and hence might have missed out on small details.

Also does the engine note changes? Becomes quieter or louder??

[Schoudhury]

Originally Posted by download2live

One small question.
Read everywhere that mjd engine come into its own after 10k on odo. That it opens up. And so on.
What exactly it means?
What are the changes we are looking at in terms of engine performance?
Coz to me it still seems to be the same. Might be cause that I am driving it regularly and hence might have missed out on small details.

Also does the engine note changes? Becomes quieter or louder??

If im not wrong, it becomes more smoother and more rev happy.
The engine noise(if im say ) also goes down.


Cheers

[sbkumar]

My take is that you would be able to find the difference only if you drive a brand new one and one that clocked 10k back to back. Since you are driving the same one, the changes would have been gradual and would be difficult for you to notice unless you can recall precisely how it was during the initial drives.