[Red Liner]

Originally Posted by KkVaidya

The better cushioning effect is due to the new set of tires comparing to old. 235 section would have given a better ride quality with reduction in road noise as well.

Have you considered a 235/75/16? Taller with more sidewall (can run lower pressures) but the tyres stay narrow, and I suspect the tyre weight carcass should not be that much more to affect pickup etc?

[KkVaidya]

Originally Posted by Red Liner

Have you considered a 235/75/16? Taller with more sidewall (can run lower pressures) but the tyres stay narrow, and I suspect the tyre weight carcass should not be that much more to affect pickup etc?

A 75 profile will increase the sidewall by 10mm compared to 70mm and there would be risk of tire scraping the fender on turns over bumpy roads. But can be given a try for sure.
My vehicle is edging 1.10 lakh kms and current Geolanders have already covered 75k kms with still a considerable tread left on them. Just that they have become a bit hard (2017mfg) that makes me think of replacement. Have stuck to 32psi since installation, FYI.

[Red Liner]

Originally Posted by KkVaidya

A 75 profile will increase the sidewall by 10mm compared to 70mm and there would be risk of tire scraping the fender on turns over bumpy roads. But can be given a try for sure.
My vehicle is edging 1.10 lakh kms and current Geolanders have already covered 75k kms with still a considerable tread left on them. Just that they have become a bit hard (2017mfg) that makes me think of replacement. Have stuck to 32psi since installation, FYI.

I think a 245/70/16 might be the safest bet.

https://tire-calc.com/comparison/235...nd-245-70-r16/

May I also recommend dropping the pressure slightly (30 psi) to experiment comfort on these tyres first? I have had good success.

[KkVaidya]

Originally Posted by Red Liner

May I also recommend dropping the pressure slightly (30 psi) to experiment comfort on these tyres first? I have had good success.

30psi no doubt gives a softer ride but at the cost of high speed handling.

[x-o-b]

Originally Posted by Blooming Flower

Interesting Findings While Working on The Thar CRDe.

..... I collected the part, few bottles of DOT4 brake oil, and went to the local mechanic for fitment.

(Thar used DOT3 brake and clutch fluid from the factory; ...

My big salute and ovation to you sir for such a detailed post. This would have been a car mechanic's nightmare, and a DIYer's torture, yet your detailed post saves both.

A quick question here, and I've quoted and underlined the relevant portion above. I'd be grateful for a quick response.

Q: The stock vehicle brake oil is DOT3, so is this incorrect? Should the oil have been DOT4 instead for the vehicle in question (Thar CRDe F/L)? Is the incorrect brake fluid type causing the master cylinder gasket erosion (maybe)? Pray shed some light.

Thanks again.

[Blooming Flower]

Originally Posted by x-o-b

Q: The stock vehicle brake oil is DOT3, so is this incorrect? Should the oil have been DOT4 instead for the vehicle in question (Thar CRDe F/L)? Is the incorrect brake fluid type causing the master cylinder gasket erosion (maybe)? Pray shed some light.

DOT3 and DOT4 oils are interchangeable. They differ at their hygroscopic properties. DOT4 attracts lesser moisture when exposed to open air. But DOT5 is completely different and cannot be replaced with DOT3 or 4. Even in emergency, one can mix DOT3 and DOT4 without any trouble to the brake components! Hope, this helps.

[x-o-b]

Originally Posted by Blooming Flower

DOT3 and DOT4 oils are interchangeable. They differ at their hygroscopic properties. DOT4 attracts lesser moisture when exposed to open air. But DOT5 is completely different and cannot be replaced with DOT3 or 4. Even in emergency, one can mix DOT3 and DOT4 without any trouble to the brake components! Hope, this helps.

They say that "the devil's in the details", hence I was curious. I now know that DOT 4 has higher boiling point as well. I thought that I had missed some "finer" reason for you to pick the DOT4 for your vehicle but I suppose that you just picked the one that was available at the time of purchase.

Thanks again. Have a wonderful evening.

[samwagon]

Originally Posted by Red Liner

Thank you both for taking the time to write back. It is certainly difficult to wade through all the information posted years back on this thread to try and sift it. I very much appreciate it.

That said, any others around here still driving a Thar CRDE in 2024?

I am still hanging on to my 2012 Thar (kept mostly stock except the BFG 235/80-16) and plan to handover this heritage to my son when he turns 18.

[samwagon]

Originally Posted by Red Liner

Just as an update, I got this done. Got the metal clutch hose pipe from boodmo, flushed the entire system, kept the rubber pipe as a "spare". It looked perfectly good to be honest and so the genes kicked in and I was reluctant to simply bin it. Then was off to Swastik fabs where the kind owner who is also a good friend hooked me up with the protector plate underneath. As always no upselling and a generous discount later I was out of there.

I am now due for the annual oil change. Do members recommend any specific tasks that need to be done alongside the regular oil change? Here is what I have from the manual:

Oil, oil filter, diesel filter (comes with a connector that doesn't seem connected to anything? Isnt that supposed to tell me if the diesel filter is contaminated or water levels are high?)

Check and torque front suspension bolts
Inspect shackle and pivot bushes
Inspect transmission/diff/transfer case oils (I intend to change all of them out shortly)
Grease wheel bearings

A peculiar issue. 4W H when engaged makes a kat kat sound like the hubs are engaging and disengaging. Reverse does not work although there is a whining sound. 4w L works as intended. Reversing a few meters ensures hub disengagement (can hear the sound). What gives?

Also have anyone connected the sensor to 4wd that lights up the dash when engaged?

I had bought the OE 4wd indication switch for Borg Warner Transfer Case from Boodmo in 2018 and connected it to the 4WDH & 4WDL indications on the meter console in my 2012 Thar (with the old black coloured dashboard). It still works like a charm.

[Red Liner]

Originally Posted by samwagon

I am still hanging on to my 2012 Thar (kept mostly stock except the BFG 235/80-16) and plan to handover this heritage to my son when he turns 18.

Sam, those tyres look great! Have you had to do any changes to fit them in? What did they cost you?

Originally Posted by samwagon

I had bought the OE 4wd indication switch for Borg Warner Transfer Case from Boodmo in 2018 and connected it to the 4WDH & 4WDL indications on the meter console in my 2012 Thar (with the old black coloured dashboard). It still works like a charm.

Any chance you can tell me how to get it done? I went to the svc and we looked hard underneath to find the cable or wire that comes out of the transfer case to plug this in... And couldn't for the life of us find it!

It seems the OG thar owners are a dying breed... What i see these days are sad wannabes pushing these thars on the highway heavily modified with all kinds of hack jobs and it certainly brings a tear to the eye.

And then to see someone driving a mint almost OE looking but purposefully driven mod job on the grandpapa Thar instantly rejuvenates the once parched soul...



And here is a poignant father son moment I managed to capture...

[Kosfactor]

^ Forget the indicator, no one is going to not know that its in 4WD, atleast one who deserves to sit on that driver`s seat.

But incase you do want it, this is the one. You can see the location of it.

https://oriparts.com/4/329/1828/545056#item_11286443

It should cost about 600 Rs the last time I remember, the indicated price now is 1200 but that maybe Boodmo`s margin too.

Sireesh Auto Singasandra had it in stock earlier, I think its used in some other vehicles as well.

@Samwagon - Our vehicles have some things in common, the mirrors, the bumper and I had the number plate mounted the same way - until the Bangalore RTO started to bother me for it.

[Red Liner]

Originally Posted by Kosfactor

^ Forget the indicator, no one is going to not know that its in 4WD, atleast one who deserves to sit on that driver`s seat.

But incase you do want it, this is the one. You can see the location of it.
it.

I have the part.. but not been able to figure out where it goes.

[Kosfactor]

Originally Posted by Red Liner

I have the part.. but not been able to figure out where it goes.

Does that diagram give you any pointers? catch hold of a co-tech when you are back in the ASC.

[Red Liner]

Originally Posted by Kosfactor

Does that diagram give you any pointers? catch hold of a co-tech when you are back in the ASC.

They couldn't figure out a thing...and nor could I

[Kosfactor]

Originally Posted by Red Liner

They couldn't figure out a thing...and nor could I

Unless the transfer case you have does not have a provision at all, it should be possible and clearly visible. Mine is a 2018 model and it has that indicator. Catch hold of someone who knows this well, If its Sireesh Singasandra then you can talk to Netaji, he knows.