[hrman]

An interesting query. It got me thinking. I would agree with GTO, that being businessmen, the dealer will sell it at a profit or at maximum profit he can extract. An otherwise 30-100km run tyre should be as good as new unless there is some body or sidewall damage.
Most new cars which are delivered to the yard or from yard to customers have had their tyres legally run for at least 50 kms (and illegally run for God knows how many more.)

Given the knowledge that the tyres are as good as new, I would insist on a discount from the dealer, else buy brand new unused ones.

[Gansan]

Originally Posted by GTO

Tyre shops - like most small retailers - are very street-smart businessmen. Most will sell these as new. Personally, I'd expect a small discount, but would otherwise consider these 10 km driven tyres as new only.

I learned at the dealership where I bought my Alto that they disconnect the meters when the odo reaches a certain number. Because sometimes they unload the cars at a railhead quite some distance away and drive them to the yard. It is a simple plug in connection nowadays, unlike the old generation cars where it was connected through a worm gear underneath the gear box.

I bet we can't tell the difference whether the tyre has done 10 KM or a 100.

I bet these will most likely be sold by shops which are famous for tyre/alloy wheel upgrades after taking delivery of car, and which offer a good "deal" on new tyres.

[GypsyKing_775]

Originally Posted by Gansan

I learned at the dealership where I bought my Alto that they disconnect the meters when the odo reaches a certain number. Because sometimes they unload the cars at a railhead quite some distance away and drive them to the yard. It is a simple plug in connection nowadays, unlike the old generation cars where it was connected through a worm gear underneath the gear box.

I bet we can't tell the difference whether the tyre has done 10 KM or a 100.

Yes.
I have seen this happen.
May daily commute route is from the Old Pune-mumbai Highway, where there are several trailers carrying cars parked near a specific area near Somatne phata toll plaza.
Then these guys unload the cars, fill some petrol using a shabby looking Can & then drive them away to the yard god knows where.(not sure where or how they manipulate the ODO or even if they really do it.).
So now it is totally unsafe to judge a good new tyre on our car as new one!

[@Chaand]

Originally Posted by ILTDrive

However, If these are sold for lesser price than the original new ones, I believe that is as good as being 'honest'. If we know of such places, wouldn't it be a better place to source tires from?

I guess every city has a place where you can get these kinds of used stuff. If you are in Mumbai, then Kurla and Oshiwara are typical places where you can easily get used/exchanged tyres. It really makes sense for people on a budget or for people who don't want to spend too much for such stuff. I did this for my two wheeler, when the tyres were due to be replaced. A year has passed by and I am not complaining.

[kingofmyworld]

There is no way you can figure out if the tyres sold at the tyre dealer are brand new or branded as new. The only way I can think of about dealing with this issue of brand new or branded new is to pick tires that are not supplied to manufacturers. Since most manufacturers roll out cars from the production line with budget tires, these buy back tyre mafia happens only with those specific mode/brand tyres that come with the car. I'm sure we havemultiple other brand/models options to choose from than the ones that come with the car. Michellin is the best bet since AFAIk most cars don'y comes with michellins.

[Nikhilb2008]

Originally Posted by kingofmyworld

There is no way you can figure out if the tyres sold at the tyre dealer are brand new or branded as new. The only way I can think of about dealing with this issue of brand new or branded new is to pick tires that are not supplied to manufacturers. Since most manufacturers roll out cars from the production line with budget tires, these buy back tyre mafia happens only with those specific mode/brand tyres that come with the car. I'm sure we havemultiple other brand/models options to choose from than the ones that come with the car. Michellin is the best bet since AFAIk most cars don'y comes with michellins.

It's simple to figure out which dealer is selling you used as new!

Call up the dealer and tell him you are buying a new car and want to exchange the tyres. If he quotes really high buyback values compared to the price of a new tyre or another dealer, then you know he will be selling it as new!

If you are buying a tyre which is the exact same spec and model as the factory fitted tyre, then you may need to be careful.

If you are buying an upsize or a model (like Yokohama, Michelin P3ST) which dont come as standard, then you are probably ok.

[siddutta]

Is there a website for tyre sale n exchange, just like battery bhai for batteries?

[tharian]

Does the buyback price differ according to the thread left on the tyre or is it more or less the same value for a tyre run couple of thousand kms to a tyre run 40k kms ,but has enough thread left for another 10-15k kms?

[Rahul Rao]

Most reputed Tyre shops take back tyres from brand new cars with only a few 100 or so km on the odo, any thing older than that is refused, or you get diverted to a second hand tyre dealer. In Pune these tyres called unwrapped new tyres by tyre dealers are taken as buyback for about Rs 2000 to Rs 2500 and resold for Rs 3000, tyre sizes that do not have a demand in the aftermarket are usually not taken even from brand new cars.

Rahul

[meetzap]

Originally Posted by Rahul Rao

Most reputed Tyre shops take back tyres from brand new cars with only a few 100 or so km on the odo, any thing older than that is refused, or you get diverted to a second hand tyre dealer. In Pune these tyres called unwrapped new tyres by tyre dealers are taken as buyback for about Rs 2000 to Rs 2500 and resold for Rs 3000, tyre sizes that do not have a demand in the aftermarket are usually not taken even from brand new cars.

Rahul

Hi Rahul, even I am from Pune. Am going to take delivery of my New Vento in a week's time. I wish to upgrade my stock tyres to Michelin. Any idea how much would this upgrade cost and what place in Pune would be the best to be offered best price for the upgrade for my brand new tyres?

[MunnabhaiMBBS]

Originally Posted by meetzap

Hi Rahul, even I am from Pune. Am going to take delivery of my New Vento in a week's time. I wish to upgrade my stock tyres to Michelin. Any idea how much would this upgrade cost and what place in Pune would be the best to be offered best price for the upgrade for my brand new tyres?

One of the trusted shops by BHPians in Pune :

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/other-...yres-pune.html

However, also do ring up Darshan tyres for a quote.

[condor]

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

Removed tyres are very good VFM if bought from a trusted tyre shop.

I guess the taxi guys will be using such tyres regularly.

For others, the problem is in finding these ! I have been trying to get a 175/65 R14 that's in decent shape, for use a spare (will not be rotated). But no luck.

[Nikhilb2008]

Originally Posted by condor

I guess the taxi guys will be using such tyres regularly.

For others, the problem is in finding these ! I have been trying to get a 175/65 R14 that's in decent shape, for use a spare (will not be rotated). But no luck.

True. Taxi guys will use these tyres in a best case scenario!

Many of them have now shifted over to Chinese tyres.