[Vivek.Martin]

Originally Posted by rks

If it was a pull to the right (as you straightened out your car after getting into the left lane) then you might have experienced torque steer. Sometimes wheel/tyre upsize can increase this problem. Not much you can do about it.

3. Could be due to uneven cold tyre pressures between left and right tyres. Set tyre pressures accurately when cold.
4. Did you do alignment/balancing after fitting new wheels/tyres? Important to do this at a well-equipped tyre shop, which would have the equipment to handle your non-stock setup.

What is the width of your alloy wheels? And do you get any vibrations when you hit high speeds?

Width is 6.5J. I did get balancing done, but dealer said alignment not neccessary as its a new car (was he right?). Need to check my tyre pressures and see if the problem persists.
But as of now, I go with Torque Steer, looks more like it. I don't get any vibrations at high speed, its all serene and calm . Thanks to everyone for your inputs.

[rks]

Originally Posted by Vivek.Martin

Width is 6.5J. I did get balancing done, but dealer said alignment not neccessary as its a new car (was he right?).

Since your wheels/tyres have been upsized, better to get alignment done again. My suggestion is that you go to a good tyre shop with the latest equipment for your tyre/wheel maintenance. Dealers do not know much about tyres/wheels in my experience.

[Vivek.Martin]

Surely...will do that and check again...thanks

[ACM]

Had a slightly different take on the best set of tyres survey.

Votes for the best set of tyres, invariably turn out to be votes for best tyres actually used by maximum number of tyre users.

Like I guess in the recent past I have used MRF - Poor Grip but good life) & Goodyears - Good Grip but Poor Life on my earlier Cielo and Bridgestones Originally Tubed and then Tubeless, 3 times over 140,000 kms on my Tata Safari with Good Life, Hardens in time for reduced Grip. Recently have been on Michelin Energy MXV8 on my Laura - Good Life & Good Grip and yet dull & expensive tyres. But then that does not qualify me for tyres that I have not used so I guess though I may have voted for Bridgestone, but Michelin, Yokohama etc. could be better.

This would not bring out the best tyres brands if they do have a big enough installed base. Plus this does not make the buyer aware of problems faced with certain brands.

So am recommending the Moderaters start a thread named:
"Worst Set/Brand of Tyres personally used"

If this thread would get down to specific models of Brands it would be even more usefull for all of us.

It would give us all some Idea about Manufacturer Design and Quality Issues.

Feel that stricking out options during tyre selection - based on the negative review/feedback would help in selection of tyres.

If this type of thread already exists, my applogies in advance and pls do direct me to it.

[greenhorn]

for my next tyre change, I'm planning to upsize to 185/60 R14 from the stock 165/65.

However , I'm stuck between the apollo acellere sportz and the michelin XM1+

What i want

-better grip - Especially at the rear when cornering. I hope the upsize should be
enough
-Ride comfort - not critical, but dad says its not up to the mark. Myself? I just dont want it to be worse than the ride with the stock tyres
-Bad roads- The last half a kilometer to my house is more broken construction rubble than tarmac, and the potholes are equally large. the stock S322's havent had a puncture yet, but the sidewalls have had a lot of run ins with the concrete slabs on the side of a narrow road ( the wheelcaps have a lot of scratches to show for it )
-VFM . I'd prefer the tyres to last at least 30k.

chances are I'll end up buying the acellere sportz. but i've heard a lot of good things about the XM1+, and given my needs ( especially the bad roads bit) , is the michelin worth the premium?

[kpzen]

What's the price of 185/60-14 Acelere Sportz?

[greenhorn]

no idea. more than the price, its the so called soft sidewalls of the michelins which worries me.

I'm not upgrading immediately, just wanted to know which was better

[harry10]

Originally Posted by greenhorn

for my next tyre change, I'm planning to upsize to 185/60 R14 from the stock 165/65.

However , I'm stuck between the apollo acellere sportz and the michelin XM1+

What i want

-better grip - Especially at the rear when cornering. I hope the upsize should be
enough
-Ride comfort - not critical, but dad says its not up to the mark. Myself? I just dont want it to be worse than the ride with the stock tyres
-Bad roads- The last half a kilometer to my house is more broken construction rubble than tarmac, and the potholes are equally large. the stock S322's havent had a puncture yet, but the sidewalls have had a lot of run ins with the concrete slabs on the side of a narrow road ( the wheelcaps have a lot of scratches to show for it )
-VFM . I'd prefer the tyres to last at least 30k.

chances are I'll end up buying the acellere sportz. but i've heard a lot of good things about the XM1+, and given my needs ( especially the bad roads bit) , is the michelin worth the premium?

Both my cosuins have acellere sportz on their cars and they are not happy with it. I will suggest go with the Michelin.

[Epic]

Hi Guys,

I am in the process of upgrading the wheels and tyres on my Swift. I am presently running on 15" X 6.5 OZ Racing Canova shod with 195/60/R15 Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD2 tyres. The Goodyears offer brilliant grip in all weather but have worn out pretty quickly and are very noisy and bumpy. I will now be further upgrading to 16" wheels with 205/50/R16 tyres. I am inclined to the Yokohama S-Drives because of the brilliant sporty design but ive always heard praises for the Michelin PP2s. Which would be the best among the two for Mumbai roads in terms of grip and comfort?

Epic

[reignofchaos]

This thread might help you choose epic

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...-s-drives.html

Be aware PP2s cost a bomb now.

[Akshay1234]

guys any reviews on yoko c-drives? most likely getting a set of these for my innova nowt hat the michelins have become to expensive.

[Baleno_boy]

I think yokohama sdrive is great.But i felt they've got too much tire noise at speeds greater than 100.Any Comments people??

[ACM]

Went in for Yoko S-Drives for my Laura about 5K kms back,

Great Grip, VFM pricing (Value for money)
Great Looks - Best looking.
Noisier than Michelline MXV8, but with more grip.
Mine developed a bubble in one of the tyres in the first month( less than 1000 kms).
Was replaced but with a lot of haggeling over the replacement charge.

I expect the life of these tyres to be lesser than that of the non sport types.

Will soon post details of my experience with Yoko's, and the replacement aspect.

[androdev]

my vote goes to michelin:
1. it is not worse than any other (often better)
2. it has better choice/support/availability

my OE bridgestone developed a tear and crack before 10K km. maybe more to do with some sharp object,etc. and not bridgestone quality but I was not happy.

ride/handling/noise? will tell you once i cross 20kmph in b'lore city traffic :-)

[Epic]

Originally Posted by Epic

Hi Guys,

I am in the process of upgrading the wheels and tyres on my Swift. I am presently running on 15" X 6.5 OZ Racing Canova shod with 195/60/R15 Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD2 tyres. The Goodyears offer brilliant grip in all weather but have worn out pretty quickly and are very noisy and bumpy. I will now be further upgrading to 16" wheels with 205/50/R16 tyres. I am inclined to the Yokohama S-Drives because of the brilliant sporty design but ive always heard praises for the Michelin PP2s. Which would be the best among the two for Mumbai roads in terms of grip and comfort?

Epic

Hi again!

Had paid a visit to Saifee Tyres, Mumbai yesterday and finally decided on my new rims for my Swift. Ive decied on the Lenso SHU. I am already running on 15" as mentioned in my post above so wanted to upgrade further to 16". Hwever, i was totally discouraged i doing so and was told to stick to 15" for my own and my car's good owing to the Mumbai roads. So please advise on this.

Now comes the tyres. My choices are: -

If i stick to 15" => Yokohama ES 100 - Rs. 4050 per tyre (205/55/R15)
Yokohama S-Drives - Rs. 4700 per tyre (205/55/R15)
Michelin PP2 - Rs. 5675 per tyre (205/55/R15)
Michelin Energy MXV8 - Rs 4950 per tyre (195/60R15)

If i change to 16" => Yokohama S-Drives - Rs. 6600 per tyre (205/50/R16)

Now the feedback given by Saifee on each tyre were

ES 100 => Good tyres and should look at it (I was against the same coz of the 'V' tread design that i already have on my Goodyears which become noisy later. Also ES 100s are an older model)

S-Drives => Good tyres with best looks but will eventually also become noisy later. (I do not want any more noisy tyres after what ive gone through with Goodyears!!)

PP2 => Better than the Yokos but harder on the ride with negligible noise (I am inclined to these as they have a good design and have been the talk of the town on this forum)

MXV8 => The best and noiseless tyre but have no sporty design (I dont like the design)

After going through the above, i am totally confused and so require your genuine comments on the same. I wil be fitting them next month so dont want to wrong again like i did with the Goodyear's. Which size of rims & Which tyres?

Epic