Sidewall cut on Good Year Eagle NCT 5

sportive_guy30 · 30th October 2006, 13:48

Hello,

Sidewall of Left side rear wheel of my car (running 3000 KMs) is cut by 2 cm . I don't know how this has happened as I don't remember hitting pothole etc. Currently I have given this tyre for claim and using spare wheel.

If claim is rejected then dealer told me to use spare wheel and use this damaged tyre as spare wheel after repair. He told me for repair hot process will be used to seal tyre gaps and put patch from inside. Is this option good for spare wheel? Or buying new tyre is the only option?

What do you suggest? Please let me know your opinion and experience of similar event.

Thanks & Regards.

theMAG · 30th October 2006, 15:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportive_guy30

Hello,

Sidewall of Left side rear wheel of my car (running 3000 KMs) is cut by 2 cm . I don't know how this has happened as I don't remember hitting pothole etc. Currently I have given this tyre for claim and using spare wheel.

If claim is rejected then dealer told me to use spare wheel and use this damaged tyre as spare wheel after repair. He told me for repair hot process will be used to seal tyre gaps and put patch from inside. Is this option good for spare wheel? Or buying new tyre is the only option?

What do you suggest? Please let me know your opinion and experience of similar event.

Thanks & Regards.

Never atempt to repair and use a tyre whose sidewall is broken. Suject to warranty, push for a replacement; else buy a new tyre.

kph · 30th October 2006, 15:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportive_guy30

Is this option good for spare wheel? Or buying new tyre is the only option?

What do you suggest? Please let me know your opinion and experience of similar event.

Ofcourse push for a replacement.

But in the worse case scinereo........
I had a tyre which had a 3cm cut (hit a pothole) on the sidewall which I patched up and kept as spare. I even used it at front for some time until another cut and death with another pothole. It didnt give any issue except for a slight roughness due to the heavy patch which wasn’t noticeable.

iraghava · 30th October 2006, 16:03

Well if your claim is not entertained then you could go in for the repair process that the dealer has advised. But keep in mind that even after post-repairs the tyre would only be for sporadic, small distance uses only. You cannot use it for extended distances and certainly not for high-speed runs. Also the tyre post-repairs will remain permanently disbalanced and thus whenever you mount it on at certain speeds it will cause your steering wheel to shake.

So ultimately it's your call, do tell us what happens about the warranty claim though.

aZa · 30th October 2006, 16:11

I've had two Potenza GIII's with ruptured sidewalls... i got both the tyres repaired but they aren't even close to the original thing. its best to get the patch-waatch put and use the tyre with a tube. Without the tube there will be a huge and i mean HUGE bulge around the patched area and is very unsafe. as everyone advised its best to get a new tyre and use this one as a spare.

tsk1979 · 30th October 2006, 16:14

As aZa suggests, get the tube and use it as a spare if warranty does not come through.
sidewall patchwork can give away even on small distances depending upon how good is the job.
Thats why it is said that if a tubless has a sidewall cut, the tire is as good as gone, and you can insert a tube and use it as spare.

shuvc · 30th October 2006, 16:32

I had posted a similar issue with one of my NCT5s - can't recall which thread.
There was a small, < 1cm, cut. It has been repaired with a patch from inside - Rs. 200 was fleeced from me ! Have kept it as a spare. Will get a new tyre when I get a good quote.
The tyre shop I went to for the repair was asking for Rs. 4300 per NCT5.

sportive_guy30 · 31st October 2006, 10:17

Hopefully I will get status of claim in 2, 3 days and then will inform you.

kph, iraghava : Dealer told me the same thing that you will feel slight roughness for repair tyre, but he specially mentioned to use repaired tyre as a spare wheel and normal speed drive only, not for regular use.

aZa, tsk1979: So you suggest to put tube in tyre after repair. Then is there any need to repair and putting patch from inside if tube is inserted and used as spare wheel? or repair is necessary and then only use tube?

Thanks & Regards,

tsk1979 · 31st October 2006, 11:09

For a minor cut you dont need any repair, just insert the tube, and never ever use this tyre for high speed runs, use it only as a spare wheel!

kph · 31st October 2006, 11:11

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Originally Posted by tsk1979

For a minor cut you dont need any repair, just insert the tube, and never ever use this tyre for high speed runs, use it only as a spare wheel!

2cm cut is not a minor one.
Definitely need a patch, then keep as spare

sportive_guy30 · 7th November 2006, 10:45

Hi All,

Just to keep you updated.

I couldn't get replacement from Good year, report says side wall cut, service abuse not a manufacutring defect and my claim was rejected.

As suggested by aZa, tsk1979, I got it tyre repaired from retreading wala, he has applied patch from inside and closed GAP. Unless you know crack is not visible. To be on safer side I bought good year tube and inserted in this tyre. Now I will be using this as spare wheel and earlier spare wheel is using for regular purpose. Total amount spent Rs. 550 (tube 300 + repair 250).

Regards.

kph · 7th November 2006, 11:21

That repairing wala looted you. Patching shouldnt go above 150 for a small one like yours.

manson · 7th November 2006, 12:25

Just go to your dealer and pick up a used tyre which you can use as your spare wheel. Should not cost you over 1k for a real good one. Do not use the repaired tyre at all.

manson.

Shan2nu · 7th November 2006, 12:42

If tyres are run with low pressure, they can get damaged without you hitting anything. Just the strain on the sidewall is enuf to make it weak over a period of time.

Most gauges at petrol stations over read by atleast 2-4psi, so going by their guage isn't enuf. Always carry a personal guage with you.

As for the tyre, i doubt you'l get a replacement. If it doesn't work out, it's better you get a new one or pick up a 2nd hand tyre thats in good condition.

Shan2nu

deep_bang · 9th July 2007, 16:08

Hi all,
I just noticed that my 8K run Indica has a crack on the side of the tyre. The crack is such that it is not visible normally at all. Only when that portion of the wheel is at the bottom (so the weight of the car is on this part) can i see the crack (about 1.5 cm). Would this be considered a manufacturing defect?
I took pictures, so will post them soon.

30th October 2006, 13:48	#1
sportive_guy30 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 21 Thanked: 0 Times	Hello, Sidewall of Left side rear wheel of my car (running 3000 KMs) is cut by 2 cm . I don't know how this has happened as I don't remember hitting pothole etc. Currently I have given this tyre for claim and using spare wheel. If claim is rejected then dealer told me to use spare wheel and use this damaged tyre as spare wheel after repair. He told me for repair hot process will be used to seal tyre gaps and put patch from inside. Is this option good for spare wheel? Or buying new tyre is the only option? What do you suggest? Please let me know your opinion and experience of similar event. Thanks & Regards.
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30th October 2006, 16:03	#4
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	Well if your claim is not entertained then you could go in for the repair process that the dealer has advised. But keep in mind that even after post-repairs the tyre would only be for sporadic, small distance uses only. You cannot use it for extended distances and certainly not for high-speed runs. Also the tyre post-repairs will remain permanently disbalanced and thus whenever you mount it on at certain speeds it will cause your steering wheel to shake. So ultimately it's your call, do tell us what happens about the warranty claim though.
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30th October 2006, 16:11	#5
aZa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noida / Delhi Posts: 1,595 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	I've had two Potenza GIII's with ruptured sidewalls... i got both the tyres repaired but they aren't even close to the original thing. its best to get the patch-waatch put and use the tyre with a tube. Without the tube there will be a huge and i mean HUGE bulge around the patched area and is very unsafe. as everyone advised its best to get a new tyre and use this one as a spare.
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30th October 2006, 16:14	#6
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	As aZa suggests, get the tube and use it as a spare if warranty does not come through. sidewall patchwork can give away even on small distances depending upon how good is the job. Thats why it is said that if a tubless has a sidewall cut, the tire is as good as gone, and you can insert a tube and use it as spare. Last edited by tsk1979 : 30th October 2006 at 16:15.
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30th October 2006, 16:32	#7
shuvc Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 2,913 Thanked: 352 Times View My Garage	I had posted a similar issue with one of my NCT5s - can't recall which thread. There was a small, < 1cm, cut. It has been repaired with a patch from inside - Rs. 200 was fleeced from me ! Have kept it as a spare. Will get a new tyre when I get a good quote. The tyre shop I went to for the repair was asking for Rs. 4300 per NCT5.
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31st October 2006, 10:17	#8
sportive_guy30 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 21 Thanked: 0 Times	Thanks everyone for your reply Hopefully I will get status of claim in 2, 3 days and then will inform you. kph, iraghava : Dealer told me the same thing that you will feel slight roughness for repair tyre, but he specially mentioned to use repaired tyre as a spare wheel and normal speed drive only, not for regular use. aZa, tsk1979: So you suggest to put tube in tyre after repair. Then is there any need to repair and putting patch from inside if tube is inserted and used as spare wheel? or repair is necessary and then only use tube? Thanks & Regards,
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31st October 2006, 11:09	#9
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	For a minor cut you dont need any repair, just insert the tube, and never ever use this tyre for high speed runs, use it only as a spare wheel!
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7th November 2006, 10:45	#11
sportive_guy30 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 21 Thanked: 0 Times	Hi All, Just to keep you updated. I couldn't get replacement from Good year, report says side wall cut, service abuse not a manufacutring defect and my claim was rejected. As suggested by aZa, tsk1979, I got it tyre repaired from retreading wala, he has applied patch from inside and closed GAP. Unless you know crack is not visible. To be on safer side I bought good year tube and inserted in this tyre. Now I will be using this as spare wheel and earlier spare wheel is using for regular purpose. Total amount spent Rs. 550 (tube 300 + repair 250). Regards.
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7th November 2006, 11:21	#12
kph BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Manali Posts: 156 Thanked: 13 Times	That repairing wala looted you. Patching shouldnt go above 150 for a small one like yours.
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7th November 2006, 12:25	#13
manson Team-BHP Support Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 3,934 Thanked: 4,169 Times View My Garage	Just go to your dealer and pick up a used tyre which you can use as your spare wheel. Should not cost you over 1k for a real good one. Do not use the repaired tyre at all. manson.
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7th November 2006, 12:42	#14
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	If tyres are run with low pressure, they can get damaged without you hitting anything. Just the strain on the sidewall is enuf to make it weak over a period of time. Most gauges at petrol stations over read by atleast 2-4psi, so going by their guage isn't enuf. Always carry a personal guage with you. As for the tyre, i doubt you'l get a replacement. If it doesn't work out, it's better you get a new one or pick up a 2nd hand tyre thats in good condition. Shan2nu
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9th July 2007, 16:08	#15
deep_bang BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore / Boise Posts: 888 Thanked: 1,271 Times	Hi all, I just noticed that my 8K run Indica has a crack on the side of the tyre. The crack is such that it is not visible normally at all. Only when that portion of the wheel is at the bottom (so the weight of the car is on this part) can i see the crack (about 1.5 cm). Would this be considered a manufacturing defect? I took pictures, so will post them soon.
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