Some questions about tyre wear

hrag · 22nd January 2007, 10:55

The OEM JK Tornado tyres on my March 2003 Indica V2 LSi were replaced as follows:

Fronts replaced at 62,000 km & 66,000 km with MRF ZVTS - same size as OEM.
Rears and spare replaced at 74,000 km with MRF ZTX - same size as OEM

devarshi84 · 20th February 2007, 17:01

finally timme to replace tyres.

here are the quotes I got

185/60 goodyear NCT5 tubeless- 2650
185/60 Bridgestone G3 tubeless- 3100
195/60 Bridgestone G3 Tubeless- 3750
195/60 Goodyear Eagle F1 tubeless- 3600
185/60 goodyear Eagle ventura tubeless- 2900
185/60 apollo accelere tubeless- 2800
185/60 Michelin Xm1 tubeless- 3670
185/65 Michelin XM1 tubeless- 3460

are the prices ok and which is the best tyre for the lancer sfx?

kpzen · 20th February 2007, 18:42

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Originally Posted by devarshi84

finally timme to replace tyres.

here are the quotes I got

185/60 goodyear NCT5 tubeless- 2650
185/60 Bridgestone G3 tubeless- 3100
195/60 Bridgestone G3 Tubeless- 3750
195/60 Goodyear Eagle F1 tubeless- 3600
185/60 goodyear Eagle ventura tubeless- 2900
185/60 apollo accelere tubeless- 2800
185/60 Michelin Xm1 tubeless- 3670
185/65 Michelin XM1 tubeless- 3460

are the prices ok and which is the best tyre for the lancer sfx?

Look no further than these...
185/60 Bridgestone G3 tubeless- 3100
195/60 Bridgestone G3 Tubeless- 3750
185/60 Michelin Xm1 tubeless- 3670

Both are good tyres.....GIII is very grippy but noisy at high speeds...Michelin is all about ride comfort n minimum road noise

KP

Vid6639 · 20th February 2007, 18:44

dont go for the 185/60-14. I had told you before that this is the wrong size.

The 195/60-14 gives much better grip. the 185/65-14 is actually the perfect size for the 5.5J alloy rims of the sfxi.

If you are looking for more ride comfort with decent grip then 185/65-14 michelin XM-1.

If it's more grip and decent ride then the 195/60-14 is very good. Go for the Michelin energy XM1 or the bridgestone turanza ER-60.

I have the 195/60-14 turanza for the last 7 months and i found them to be very good tyres.

The lancer has an inherent tyre noise problem. The RE-88 which are the OE's and the potenza G3 both accentuate the tyre noise on the lancer. Would suggest you to avoid the G3 as it can get really irritating on long drives with the droning noise significant in the cabin.

The turanza's are more towards comfort and the tyre noise is much lesser than the G3 and the re88.

iraghava · 21st February 2007, 00:34

I would also agree with KP's & Vid's recommendation.

devarshi84 · 21st February 2007, 10:02

so I am looking at Michelin Xm1 and bridgestone Turanaza ER60, right?

havent got a quote for Turanza's. will check with the shops.

also any idea about the gooyear Eagle f1's? the dealer was very interested in selling those to me.

iraghava · 21st February 2007, 10:12

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Originally Posted by devarshi84

so I am looking at Michelin Xm1 and bridgestone Turanaza ER60, right?

Yes.

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Originally Posted by devarshi84

also any idea about the gooyear Eagle f1's? the dealer was very interested in selling those to me.

I would stay away given their high-road noise problem which in your case would be exaggerated even further. Also the sidewalls are quite weak so that leads to frequent cuts.

devarshi84 · 22nd February 2007, 23:56

ok now which among bridgestone Turanze ER60

195/60 R14
185/60 R14

and Michelin Xm1

185/65 R14
185/60 R14

I am more inclined towards 185/65 or 195/60 to fill the tyre wells but I am not much educated on tyres.

the average price for these tyres were quoted by the dealers at 3500Rs. Is that a good price?

iraghava · 23rd February 2007, 00:12

I would go for 185/65 or 195/60 Michelin Energy XM1's if the Turanza's cost the same as them since the Michelin's are vastly superior to the Bridgestone's.

However do try & bargain the price down to around 3200-3300 which will make them a very good deal.

kpzen · 23rd February 2007, 00:12

Hey Dev
Just to guide u better Whats the stock size of your SFXi...?

I know Lancer LX comes with 13" 175/80-13 but SFxi come with 185/60-14 or 185/65-14 I'm not sure...

iraghava · 23rd February 2007, 00:21

185/60 R14 .

Vid6639 · 23rd February 2007, 00:22

195/60-14 with your eyes closed. Your choice on the brands. both of them are good.

I have the turanzas and am very happy.

185/65-14 will fill the wheels better but the 195's give better grip.

You will not get the turanzas in 185/65-14.

@kpzen: SFXi comes with 185/60-14. but this is not the correct size and has speedo error as well as low ground clearance.

devarshi84 · 23rd February 2007, 00:29

so what will 185/65 do compared to 195/60?

Vid: I also read one of your posts which says some owners reported more tyre wear on michelin. Is this true? I am getting both Michelin XM1 and bridgestone turanza ER-60 for the same price (almost)

@IGRAGHAVA: why do you think Michelin are much better than Bridgestones? I have read various of your old posts suggesting the same? can you please throw more light on these?

My priorities are in this order

1. Road noise
2. Ride comfort
3. Handling and grip

kpzen · 23rd February 2007, 00:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by devarshi84

@IGRAGHAVA: why do you think Michelin are much better than Bridgestones? I have read various of your old posts suggesting the same? can you please throw more light on these?

My priorities are in this order

1. Road noise
2. Ride comfort
3. Handling and grip

Your priorities is the answer ....What say Ishan..!!!!

Vid6639 · 23rd February 2007, 09:01

As kpzen says your priorities are the answer. Since your priority is road noise and ride comfort go for the 185/65-14.

The michelins are of a softer compound hence wear out a tad quicker then the bridgestones.

The Michelins being softer will provide better ride comfort. I cant comment on the road noise of the michelins as I havent sat in a lancer with those tyres. The turanzas had much lesser noise than the potenza re88's.

The 185's will not affect your mileage as well. Also since the sfxi rim is 5.5J 195 is a borderline case.

If you decide on 185/65-14 you have only the Michelin's.

22nd January 2007, 10:55	#16
hrag BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore / Madras Posts: 1,982 Thanked: 31 Times	The OEM JK Tornado tyres on my March 2003 Indica V2 LSi were replaced as follows: Fronts replaced at 62,000 km & 66,000 km with MRF ZVTS - same size as OEM. Rears and spare replaced at 74,000 km with MRF ZTX - same size as OEM
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20th February 2007, 17:01	#17
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	finally timme to replace tyres. here are the quotes I got 185/60 goodyear NCT5 tubeless- 2650 185/60 Bridgestone G3 tubeless- 3100 195/60 Bridgestone G3 Tubeless- 3750 195/60 Goodyear Eagle F1 tubeless- 3600 185/60 goodyear Eagle ventura tubeless- 2900 185/60 apollo accelere tubeless- 2800 185/60 Michelin Xm1 tubeless- 3670 185/65 Michelin XM1 tubeless- 3460 are the prices ok and which is the best tyre for the lancer sfx?
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20th February 2007, 18:44	#19
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,477 Times View My Garage	dont go for the 185/60-14. I had told you before that this is the wrong size. The 195/60-14 gives much better grip. the 185/65-14 is actually the perfect size for the 5.5J alloy rims of the sfxi. If you are looking for more ride comfort with decent grip then 185/65-14 michelin XM-1. If it's more grip and decent ride then the 195/60-14 is very good. Go for the Michelin energy XM1 or the bridgestone turanza ER-60. I have the 195/60-14 turanza for the last 7 months and i found them to be very good tyres. The lancer has an inherent tyre noise problem. The RE-88 which are the OE's and the potenza G3 both accentuate the tyre noise on the lancer. Would suggest you to avoid the G3 as it can get really irritating on long drives with the droning noise significant in the cabin. The turanza's are more towards comfort and the tyre noise is much lesser than the G3 and the re88.
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21st February 2007, 00:34	#20
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	I would also agree with KP's & Vid's recommendation.
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21st February 2007, 10:02	#21
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	so I am looking at Michelin Xm1 and bridgestone Turanaza ER60, right? havent got a quote for Turanza's. will check with the shops. also any idea about the gooyear Eagle f1's? the dealer was very interested in selling those to me.
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22nd February 2007, 23:56	#23
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	ok now which among bridgestone Turanze ER60 195/60 R14 185/60 R14 and Michelin Xm1 185/65 R14 185/60 R14 I am more inclined towards 185/65 or 195/60 to fill the tyre wells but I am not much educated on tyres. the average price for these tyres were quoted by the dealers at 3500Rs. Is that a good price?
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23rd February 2007, 00:12	#24
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	I would go for 185/65 or 195/60 Michelin Energy XM1's if the Turanza's cost the same as them since the Michelin's are vastly superior to the Bridgestone's. However do try & bargain the price down to around 3200-3300 which will make them a very good deal.
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23rd February 2007, 00:12	#25
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	Hey Dev Just to guide u better Whats the stock size of your SFXi...? I know Lancer LX comes with 13" 175/80-13 but SFxi come with 185/60-14 or 185/65-14 I'm not sure...
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23rd February 2007, 00:21	#26
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	185/60 R14 .
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23rd February 2007, 00:22	#27
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,477 Times View My Garage	195/60-14 with your eyes closed. Your choice on the brands. both of them are good. I have the turanzas and am very happy. 185/65-14 will fill the wheels better but the 195's give better grip. You will not get the turanzas in 185/65-14. @kpzen: SFXi comes with 185/60-14. but this is not the correct size and has speedo error as well as low ground clearance. Last edited by Vid6639 : 23rd February 2007 at 00:24.
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23rd February 2007, 00:29	#28
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	so what will 185/65 do compared to 195/60? Vid: I also read one of your posts which says some owners reported more tyre wear on michelin. Is this true? I am getting both Michelin XM1 and bridgestone turanza ER-60 for the same price (almost) @IGRAGHAVA: why do you think Michelin are much better than Bridgestones? I have read various of your old posts suggesting the same? can you please throw more light on these? My priorities are in this order 1. Road noise 2. Ride comfort 3. Handling and grip Last edited by devarshi84 : 23rd February 2007 at 00:32.
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23rd February 2007, 09:01	#30
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,477 Times View My Garage	As kpzen says your priorities are the answer. Since your priority is road noise and ride comfort go for the 185/65-14. The michelins are of a softer compound hence wear out a tad quicker then the bridgestones. The Michelins being softer will provide better ride comfort. I cant comment on the road noise of the michelins as I havent sat in a lancer with those tyres. The turanzas had much lesser noise than the potenza re88's. The 185's will not affect your mileage as well. Also since the sfxi rim is 5.5J 195 is a borderline case. If you decide on 185/65-14 you have only the Michelin's.
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