MAtiz rims rusted - help

goandude · 1st October 2007, 10:19

I recently fitted tubeless mitchlins onto my stock steel rims after the tyre dealer said my rims were fine. but now i found a loss of pressure of about 9 - 10 lbs on one and 4-5 lbs on another wheel per week. so went to a puncture repair guy and he said the area around the nozzle is rusted and air is leaking from there. after filing the area to take off the rust he said see how it works. so I'm waiting and watching. Need help in:-
(a) Puncture guy said if this is not working we can weld these nozzle holes shut and drill another hole. Is this advisable?
(b) If i need to get new steel rims (alloys are not considered here for monetary reasons) where can I sourse these from? can any 13" 4.5 J rims fit?
TIA,
GD

WasavaTyres · 1st October 2007, 11:35

You would need 98 PCD rims.The only other cars to have them is the Fiat family. Try to hunt for them at local tyre shops who sell alloys and also at disposal / car scrap dealers.

rohan_fonseca · 1st October 2007, 17:14

Goandude don't take risks on tyres. Best to find new rims.

vebmetal · 1st October 2007, 18:00

Generally I 've found that many people have this problem when they fit tubeless tyres on old steel rims. You should either have new steel rims, or alloys, if affordable.

goandude · 3rd October 2007, 09:11

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Originally Posted by rohan_fonseca

Goandude don't take risks on tyres. Best to find new rims.

kindly suggest sources for the rims here in Goa.

Su-47 · 3rd October 2007, 14:18

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Originally Posted by goandude

can any 13" 4.5 J rims fit?

Please ensure correct PCD and offset. See this:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...tml#post298638

rohan_fonseca · 4th October 2007, 17:10

Goandude, Impact has got a good selection of alloys. Also Jimron is receiving new stocks soon. For steel rims you could try Jimron again or parijat, or jeet singh chandok. Parijat has got neo wheels. Can try to hook up a discount for you on neo wheels with 'On Wheels' if you like.

arunforu1 · 4th October 2007, 17:38

Hi Goandude,

Best solution is to go for new disc wheels, they are cheap.

If you want a makeshift solution try applying epoxy on innerside of valve hole, on the wheel & then buff the excess away.

Second solution is to apply solder from inside.But soldering on steel is very difficult(not impossible), you have to use zinc-chloride flux & apply some molten solder along with fulx from inside of wheel. & buff away excess with a flint.

I hope it helps you.

goandude · 5th October 2007, 08:57

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Originally Posted by arunforu1

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Best solution is to go for new disc wheels, they are cheap.
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"disc wheels" ? I'm mising something here. kindly elaborate.

iraghava · 5th October 2007, 09:23

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Originally Posted by goandude

"disc wheels" ? I'm mising something here. kindly elaborate.

He means Steel wheels, the normal ones that come on the Matiz. Steel wheels are also referred to as Disc Wheels.

vnabhi · 5th October 2007, 13:55

Not sure if a Fiesta's steel rims could be used in a Matiz---I have a set of 4 brand new Fiesta steel rims.

arunforu1 · 5th October 2007, 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by goandude

"disc wheels" ? I'm mising something here. kindly elaborate.

The Normal steel wheels(normal rims), are called as disc wheels, because of there construction.

A pressed metal disc forms the wheel, which is welded/bolted/riveted to the rim to form the wheel(the metal part other than tire). Other types are spoke & alloy wheels.

I hope now disc wheels are clear.

goandude · 6th October 2007, 10:41

Thanks arunforu1 and iraghava for the enlightenment.
vnabhi matiz rims are 4.5 J 13 with PCD 114.3 (some say 98) and offset of 45mm. If your fiesta's rims have these specs I would take them. even 5.5 would do.

kpzen · 6th October 2007, 10:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by vnabhi

Not sure if a Fiesta's steel rims could be used in a Matiz---I have a set of 4 brand new Fiesta steel rims.

Fiesta rims are 14" and Matiz needs 13" rims.

goandude · 9th October 2007, 16:49

Guys, so far the pressures are holding in both my tyres. so I guess i'm ok with the current rims for the time being. crossing fingers here.

1st October 2007, 10:19	#1
goandude Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Mysuru Posts: 1,763 Thanked: 1,283 Times	MAtiz rims rusted - help I recently fitted tubeless mitchlins onto my stock steel rims after the tyre dealer said my rims were fine. but now i found a loss of pressure of about 9 - 10 lbs on one and 4-5 lbs on another wheel per week. so went to a puncture repair guy and he said the area around the nozzle is rusted and air is leaking from there. after filing the area to take off the rust he said see how it works. so I'm waiting and watching. Need help in:- (a) Puncture guy said if this is not working we can weld these nozzle holes shut and drill another hole. Is this advisable? (b) If i need to get new steel rims (alloys are not considered here for monetary reasons) where can I sourse these from? can any 13" 4.5 J rims fit? TIA, GD
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1st October 2007, 11:35	#2
WasavaTyres BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Indore Posts: 816 Thanked: 450 Times View My Garage	You would need 98 PCD rims.The only other cars to have them is the Fiat family. Try to hunt for them at local tyre shops who sell alloys and also at disposal / car scrap dealers.
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1st October 2007, 17:14	#3
rohan_fonseca BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Panaji Posts: 984 Thanked: 8 Times View My Garage	Goandude don't take risks on tyres. Best to find new rims.
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1st October 2007, 18:00	#4
vebmetal BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 798 Thanked: 21 Times	Generally I 've found that many people have this problem when they fit tubeless tyres on old steel rims. You should either have new steel rims, or alloys, if affordable.
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4th October 2007, 17:10	#7
rohan_fonseca BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Panaji Posts: 984 Thanked: 8 Times View My Garage	Goandude, Impact has got a good selection of alloys. Also Jimron is receiving new stocks soon. For steel rims you could try Jimron again or parijat, or jeet singh chandok. Parijat has got neo wheels. Can try to hook up a discount for you on neo wheels with 'On Wheels' if you like. Last edited by rohan_fonseca : 4th October 2007 at 17:12.
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4th October 2007, 17:38	#8
arunforu1 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 254 Thanked: 7 Times	Hi Goandude, Best solution is to go for new disc wheels, they are cheap. If you want a makeshift solution try applying epoxy on innerside of valve hole, on the wheel & then buff the excess away. Second solution is to apply solder from inside.But soldering on steel is very difficult(not impossible), you have to use zinc-chloride flux & apply some molten solder along with fulx from inside of wheel. & buff away excess with a flint. I hope it helps you.
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5th October 2007, 13:55	#11
vnabhi Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: DC -> DC Posts: 5,958 Thanked: 2,393 Times View My Garage	Not sure if a Fiesta's steel rims could be used in a Matiz---I have a set of 4 brand new Fiesta steel rims.
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6th October 2007, 10:41	#13
goandude Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Mysuru Posts: 1,763 Thanked: 1,283 Times	Thanks arunforu1 and iraghava for the enlightenment. vnabhi matiz rims are 4.5 J 13 with PCD 114.3 (some say 98) and offset of 45mm. If your fiesta's rims have these specs I would take them. even 5.5 would do.
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9th October 2007, 16:49	#15
goandude Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Mysuru Posts: 1,763 Thanked: 1,283 Times	Guys, so far the pressures are holding in both my tyres. so I guess i'm ok with the current rims for the time being. crossing fingers here.
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