Tyres for Diesel josh! Ford iKon TDCi

nithz · 10th December 2008, 10:34

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Originally Posted by akshay1234

nithz have youu ever sat in a car with g3s?

bullboy i doubt it.

i think 195/60 r14 would be the right upgrade (eh tyrebhagwaan?) and you can try michelin mx1s in that size. they will give you good comfort.

akshay could you enlighten us about potenza GIII

Akshay1234 · 10th December 2008, 11:07

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Originally Posted by nithz

Actually this is a off topic for me,
my car already has potenza GIII and i drive it regularly ,
akshay i didnt get what you are trying to say -please enlighten us technically .i have seen many using potenza GIIIs in this forum -let us know what you felt when you drove with potenza GIIIs

my getz has g3s and my innova and my baleno had g3s. and frankly after using better tyres i say theyre horrible. the ride quality is hopeless and the only + point is the grip you get which again is nothing in comparison to proper performance tyres. also production has been stopped everywhere else in the world besides here.

S_budhiraj · 11th December 2008, 11:12

Thanks a ton buddies for your support!

1. Well I haven't confirmed from the dealer about the warranty void after upgrades, will do that.

2. Well even if dealer rejects to do so, I will still change my tyres or upgrade to 14", as the ride with those goodyears tubetype is very annoying (very Harsh)

3. The dealer at which I liked the allloys have 14" and 13" both for the same design but the tyres he is saying the best would be Yokohama A drive, I have been using the same tyres in my Innova and had a very positive response from them. Following the posts I have seen that Michelins are even better than yokohamas and want to try them this time. What do you folks suggest, Is yokohama A drive better or I should go for Michelins.

4. Price offered for A drive 14" is 3200, Is this price ok

5. If Michelins then which one..?

6. Michelins have track suit on offer, does Yokos have any scheme going on with them..?

kpzen · 11th December 2008, 11:28

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Originally Posted by S_budhiraj

4. Price offered for A drive 14" is 3200, Is this price ok

5. If Michelins then which one..?

6. Michelins have track suit on offer, does Yokos have any scheme going on with them..?

4. What size is it?

5. Michelin XM1 + 185/60-14

6. They had a pen drive offer sometime back. Not sure if it still exists

S_budhiraj · 11th December 2008, 11:33

Yokos are also 185/60/ R14

how much does they cost and how are they..?

muneemmk · 3rd April 2009, 12:40

hello, what tyres did you go for ? and what size at what price ,need some advice on the same as a friend of mine is taking delivery of a Ikon TDCi on Monday.
The Size i have suggested is 195/55R14 , now my only question is will this size foul with the wheel arches on a full lock ?

condor · 3rd April 2009, 12:45

@Muneemji, the 185/60-14 Yoko A-Drive's on my TDCi are doing fine. 3200 looks a good price.

agent009 · 24th December 2009, 19:17

Hello friends,
I am taking delivery of my FORD IKON TDCI on 28 December 09(fooled the dealer for extending the delivery date)

I want to upsize to 14 inch alloys preferably the FORD 14 inch alloys that come for the fiesta as I think that will prevent the FORD dealer from voiding my warranty for upsizing.

what will be the correct size for the tires..
I prefer not ruin the fuel economy and ride confort. The only reason i am in for the upsize coz the stock tyres/rims(R13) look too small for the IKON

Thanks in advance.

mail4loys · 24th December 2009, 19:57

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Originally Posted by bullboy

I was told by ford service manager that warranty will be void as i also booked the same car and wanted to upgrade to 14".He told stating that final drive ratios are selected with 13" tires.

+1. Even i was told by the ford service manager that the warranty would be void if upsize by wheel. So i stuck to the stock size for my car.

agent009 · 25th December 2009, 16:41

our fellow member condor suggested me tyres/upsize of 185/60 R14 for My IKON TDCI, I'll be taking the 14'' alloys from the dealer and hope that the dealer doesnt ruin my warranty.

can anyone tell me the rough prices for good tires of above specs or any link to indian websites showing the same(i have gone insane googling last 1 hour).

P.S I cannot afford more than 15k for the tyres(5 tyres)
thanks in advance

agent009 · 25th December 2009, 19:59

ok I just went through this calculator in some website and got some neat comparision looks like 185/60 R14 is the best upsize for IKON TDCI

Tyres for Diesel josh! Ford iKon TDCi-tyre-upsize.jpg

the thing that troubles me is when upsizing we need to keep the overall diametre of the tyre close to that of the OEM tyres

well then whats bad with 185/70 R13 that way I will not risk voiding the warranty as the alloys will be 13 inches and I will have broader tyres too

please help clear the confusion

condor · 25th December 2009, 20:47

@Agent009, you are correct about keeping the overall diameter of the tyre to as close as possible to the OEM tyres. Good thing that - reading up on this.

Tires spec's are a combination of width, aspect & radius. As you increase the width, you need to decrease the aspect ratio. If you dont ,the tire will be come bigger in dia.

So, if you compare the calculationsin your post, the closet in outer dia (when compared to stock tires) is the 185/60 R14. The difference is only 0.44%. If you use 185/70 R13, the difference is 2.38%. - almost 2% more.

If you want to stick to R13 but go for 185 width, then you will have to search for 185/65 R13 - not 185/70 R13. Even with 185/65 R13, the difference is 0.78% - more than what you will get with 185/60 R14.

Check out the Tire Bible section in carbibles.com for a good explanation.

To sum it up :

stock : 175/70 R13
Closest upsize : 185/60 R14
Next closest : 185/65 R13

agent009 · 25th December 2009, 21:15

@condor
thanks a lot bro.. Ill be going for the 14 inch alloys and 185/60 R14 tyres

just one last help
could you suggest some good tyre brands in my budget of 15k and state the approx price of each tyre

thankx in advance

agent009 · 26th December 2009, 14:00

ok got quotes from local dealers here in goa...

Michellin XM1+
185/60 R14 For Rs 4,450/- each..

(some people here have got them for 3700/-..)

can anyone get me contact details of the distributer for GOA/MAHARASHTRA REGION...

why is all stuff so expensive here in Goa

condor · 26th December 2009, 14:15

If you know who all got the Michelin's for 3.7k, check with them. Michelin's are going to be a little more expensive than others. I'm using Yoko A-drives. Also check Bridgestone .. or ping one of the tyre guru's here.

11th December 2008, 11:12	#18
S_budhiraj BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 275 Thanked: Once	Thanks a ton buddies for your support! 1. Well I haven't confirmed from the dealer about the warranty void after upgrades, will do that. 2. Well even if dealer rejects to do so, I will still change my tyres or upgrade to 14", as the ride with those goodyears tubetype is very annoying (very Harsh) 3. The dealer at which I liked the allloys have 14" and 13" both for the same design but the tyres he is saying the best would be Yokohama A drive, I have been using the same tyres in my Innova and had a very positive response from them. Following the posts I have seen that Michelins are even better than yokohamas and want to try them this time. What do you folks suggest, Is yokohama A drive better or I should go for Michelins. 4. Price offered for A drive 14" is 3200, Is this price ok 5. If Michelins then which one..? 6. Michelins have track suit on offer, does Yokos have any scheme going on with them..?
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11th December 2008, 11:33	#20
S_budhiraj BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 275 Thanked: Once	Yokos are also 185/60/ R14 how much does they cost and how are they..?
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3rd April 2009, 12:40	#21
muneemmk BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cochin Posts: 832 Thanked: 99 Times View My Garage	hello, what tyres did you go for ? and what size at what price ,need some advice on the same as a friend of mine is taking delivery of a Ikon TDCi on Monday. The Size i have suggested is 195/55R14 , now my only question is will this size foul with the wheel arches on a full lock ?
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3rd April 2009, 12:45	#22
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 15,864 Thanked: 16,014 Times View My Garage	@Muneemji, the 185/60-14 Yoko A-Drive's on my TDCi are doing fine. 3200 looks a good price.
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24th December 2009, 19:17	#23
agent009 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Goa Posts: 48 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	Best Alloy size and Tyres for IKON TDCI Hello friends, I am taking delivery of my FORD IKON TDCI on 28 December 09(fooled the dealer for extending the delivery date) I want to upsize to 14 inch alloys preferably the FORD 14 inch alloys that come for the fiesta as I think that will prevent the FORD dealer from voiding my warranty for upsizing. what will be the correct size for the tires.. I prefer not ruin the fuel economy and ride confort. The only reason i am in for the upsize coz the stock tyres/rims(R13) look too small for the IKON Thanks in advance. Last edited by Jaggu : 24th December 2009 at 19:38. Reason: Please use Search before opening a new thread, Thanks
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25th December 2009, 16:41	#25
agent009 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Goa Posts: 48 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	our fellow member condor suggested me tyres/upsize of 185/60 R14 for My IKON TDCI, I'll be taking the 14'' alloys from the dealer and hope that the dealer doesnt ruin my warranty. can anyone tell me the rough prices for good tires of above specs or any link to indian websites showing the same(i have gone insane googling last 1 hour). P.S I cannot afford more than 15k for the tyres(5 tyres) thanks in advance
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25th December 2009, 19:59	#26
agent009 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Goa Posts: 48 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	ok I just went through this calculator in some website and got some neat comparision looks like 185/60 R14 is the best upsize for IKON TDCI the thing that troubles me is when upsizing we need to keep the overall diametre of the tyre close to that of the OEM tyres well then whats bad with 185/70 R13 that way I will not risk voiding the warranty as the alloys will be 13 inches and I will have broader tyres too please help clear the confusion
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25th December 2009, 20:47	#27
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 15,864 Thanked: 16,014 Times View My Garage	@Agent009, you are correct about keeping the overall diameter of the tyre to as close as possible to the OEM tyres. Good thing that - reading up on this. Tires spec's are a combination of width, aspect & radius. As you increase the width, you need to decrease the aspect ratio. If you dont ,the tire will be come bigger in dia. So, if you compare the calculationsin your post, the closet in outer dia (when compared to stock tires) is the 185/60 R14. The difference is only 0.44%. If you use 185/70 R13, the difference is 2.38%. - almost 2% more. If you want to stick to R13 but go for 185 width, then you will have to search for 185/65 R13 - not 185/70 R13. Even with 185/65 R13, the difference is 0.78% - more than what you will get with 185/60 R14. Check out the Tire Bible section in carbibles.com for a good explanation. To sum it up : stock : 175/70 R13 Closest upsize : 185/60 R14 Next closest : 185/65 R13
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25th December 2009, 21:15	#28
agent009 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Goa Posts: 48 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	@condor thanks a lot bro.. Ill be going for the 14 inch alloys and 185/60 R14 tyres just one last help could you suggest some good tyre brands in my budget of 15k and state the approx price of each tyre thankx in advance
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26th December 2009, 14:00	#29
agent009 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Goa Posts: 48 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	ok got quotes from local dealers here in goa... Michellin XM1+ 185/60 R14 For Rs 4,450/- each.. (some people here have got them for 3700/-..) can anyone get me contact details of the distributer for GOA/MAHARASHTRA REGION... why is all stuff so expensive here in Goa Last edited by agent009 : 26th December 2009 at 14:03.
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26th December 2009, 14:15	#30
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 15,864 Thanked: 16,014 Times View My Garage	If you know who all got the Michelin's for 3.7k, check with them. Michelin's are going to be a little more expensive than others. I'm using Yoko A-drives. Also check Bridgestone .. or ping one of the tyre guru's here.
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