Wagon-R owners who upgraded it with Michelin XM1?

Jebs · 22nd September 2009, 14:06

Hi Everyone,

I understood there are many threads already discussed about the Tyre upsize for Wagon-R. But this thread ONLY discuss about their feelings after the successful upgrade with Michelin XM1+ tyres.

Forgive me, First of all i did not upsize my Wagon-R with Michelin XM1+. Since, I was planning to upgrade it with Michelin XM1+ 155/65/R13 only after reading the reviews from Team-Bhp. But unexpectedly, I went to the tyre dealer along with my friend to change tyres for his ford iKon. During the change process, I asked the dealer guy(owner or so) about that I too want to upgrade my Wagon-R with Michelins and enquired about the total costs and all. But he said "For Wagon-R i suggests only CONTINENTAL tyres which are very good than Michelins". I wondered, and am back. But my T-Bhp membership was unapproved that time, so could not discuss anything further. Finally due to my urgency, I have changed them with CONTINENTAL tyres with 155/70/R13 EcoContact 3 profile.

But I honestly say it provides excellent grip, super silent, good ground clearance and amazing ride quality with super control over steering wheel. I did cool cornering with this during my last trip.

Intention of this New Thread:

This thread is intended to share your feelings/experiences/reviews about the Wagon-R s which are running Michelin XM1+ tyres (any profile 155/65 or 155/70 but STRICTLY xm1+ only). I just wanted to know your feelings which i was supposed get (if i put Michelin XM1+). I honestly do NOT want to make any comparisons between them, just curious to know your feelings and i want to travel with your feelings through this thread. Kindly do NOT mistake me, am pretty much comfortable with my CONTI tyres and i never regret my decision anyway. Thanks all.

abhayshanu · 22nd September 2009, 14:35

Good thread
I need to upgrade to xm1 or xm1+ so lets see how this goes.
By the way i was thinking of 165/55/R13 or 175/55/R13 not lower as i feel they are just too thin.

greenhorn · 22nd September 2009, 15:40

is there an XM1+ for wagon R? I believe that XM1+ starts only from 14" , and wagon R's have 13 inch rims

you might want to check this thread
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...za-wagonr.html

rjstyles69 · 22nd September 2009, 15:58

Here's one more thread (Review of Michelin XM1 155/65/R13 on my WagonR) . So would that make you change your tires or rather would it be fair if you were to clock a a few clicks on your brand new set of tires and add a review.

Jebs · 22nd September 2009, 16:09

Hi greenhorn, Me too had a same doubt for xm1+ availablity for R13 rims. But nikhilb2008 says Michelin offers xm1+ energy tyres for 13" rims also. So that i initiated this thread. But Michelin website says xm1+ only for 14" and 15" series. Nikhilb200 , Please confirm this. According to me, xm1+ energy and xm1+ are NOT same. Only energy series starts from 14" above.

gomzi · 22nd September 2009, 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jebs

Hi greenhorn, Me too had a same doubt for xm1+ availablity for R13 rims. But nikhilb2008 says Michelin offers xm1+ energy tyres for 13" rims also. So that i initiated this thread. But Michelin website says xm1+ only for 14" and 15" series. Nikhilb200 , Please confirm this. According to me, xm1+ energy and xm1+ are NOT same. Only energy series starts from 14" above.

Hi Jebs,

A friend of mine had changed the rubber on his brand bew Wagon-R when I had suggested he change to Michelin XM1+.
He did the tyre change - unfortunately I wasn't in town then. Later he informed me that he has changed to XM1's since the dealer (Only michelin dealer in Thane) told him that XM1+ is not available for R13's.

my $0.2

greenhorn · 23rd September 2009, 18:52

MICHELIN
MICHELIN

are you sure? or has XM1+ been launched recently in 14" ?
EDIT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

There is XM1+ now available in the same size. This will last you much more than the XM1 you had previously.

I guess it has

ownerofazkaban · 26th September 2009, 15:14

Upgraded 4 tyres on my 800 from 145/70R12 MRF ZVTS to 155/70 R 12 XM1+. I too observe they are not listed in website.

I got my tyres from Millivision, Lalbhag road. Guess they are original ones. 2250/- each. Got 125/- for my 50k+ kms zvts which covered for the alignment etc.

They tyres are on the original rims, had to get all bends fixed for the rims used. Have retained one old trye for spare.

HTH,

nayaksudhir · 17th October 2009, 10:51

Hi,

Upsized yesterday to Michelin XM1+ 155/70/R13. Unfortunately this size doesn't find much mention in the forums although it is experts advised that to be the correct upsize for Wagon R.

I bought these from Sunny Tyres (Bill says Sunny Motors) in Sec 64 Noida. Costed me 2725 INR per wheel. 10900 for 4 tyres. When I go for rotation at 5000 Kms thats when I will buy my 5th tyre.

Customer service and all was good. Although their Credit Card machine doesn't work! No nitrogen filling available.

Haven't driven much after the change, just drove home from the shop but I did feel a little 'high' on these.

Will post more as i drive these. Any questions are welcome.

sats · 30th October 2009, 16:34

Hi Guys,

Got my Aug'09 WagonR DUO LXI upgraded to the tubeless Michelin XM1+ 155/60 R13 from the OE 145/70 R13 JK Tyres. Had done quite a bit of reseach on the upsize and tyres on T-BHP, with friends and couple of tyre dealers.

Took delivery of the car from Garuda Auto and went straight to Sai Iyengar across the road and exchanged all 5 tyres with 22 Kms on them. Cost was Rs.5000/- for exchange to Michelin XM1+, including removal of OE tyres, mounting the Michelins, nitrogen filling, balancing and fitting. Plus got the Michelin branded free Reebok Duffel bag

It's been 2500+kms of trouble free, smooth and silent running. The upsize and the tyre tread pattern resulted in slightly weighing up the steering which was welcome compared to the very light steering on the skinnier JK's. Road grip is good, even in the wet and ride quality and handling is up by couple of notches. Have done 3 trips which was mix of national & state highways plus village roads and speeds of upto 130 Kmph, with no issues. Would recommend both the upsize and the XM1+ for the WagonR.

Cheers,
Sats

Jebs · 4th November 2009, 11:13

Hi sats,

Are the size is 155/60 or 155/65 or 155/70. I don't think michelin has 155/60 profile in R13. Please post the pics too.

thelightening · 15th April 2010, 10:54

I have recently upgrade my wagonR from stock 155/65 JK tubetype stock tyres to Michelin energy XM1+ 155/65 R13 tubeless.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...michelins.html

I felt a real good difference..

bblost · 12th February 2011, 14:35

Replaced my worn out Bridgestone S322's with Michelin XM1+.

Cost quoted was Rs 3,000 per tire.
Paid Rs 12,000 for tires, valves, fitting, balancing, some weights and alignment.

All tires were manufactured in 4510.

Initial feel, with less than 3 kms of driving is, they are noisier than my old Bridgestones. But in a nice way. I like the noise they made on an open stretch of road, where I let them go a little fast.

shabahmad · 2nd May 2011, 11:53

Me too joined the list of people running on XM1+, changed my 3.5 yrs old Goodyear GPS2 tyres after 42000 km of running, and reason for this change is 5 nails in front Left tyre.
New XM1+ tyre cost 3000 each with WA, WB, Nitrogen Filling. No additional charge for card payment with a complimentary box of tissues. Done at Tyre Plus, N Mehta Co, Nashik Phata, Pune.

Initally feed back is good grip, accelaration and less rolling resistance.

22nd September 2009, 14:06	#1
Jebs BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 379 Thanked: 66 Times	Wagon-R owners who upgraded it with Michelin XM1? Hi Everyone, I understood there are many threads already discussed about the Tyre upsize for Wagon-R. But this thread ONLY discuss about their feelings after the successful upgrade with Michelin XM1+ tyres. Forgive me, First of all i did not upsize my Wagon-R with Michelin XM1+. Since, I was planning to upgrade it with Michelin XM1+ 155/65/R13 only after reading the reviews from Team-Bhp. But unexpectedly, I went to the tyre dealer along with my friend to change tyres for his ford iKon. During the change process, I asked the dealer guy(owner or so) about that I too want to upgrade my Wagon-R with Michelins and enquired about the total costs and all. But he said "For Wagon-R i suggests only CONTINENTAL tyres which are very good than Michelins". I wondered, and am back. But my T-Bhp membership was unapproved that time, so could not discuss anything further. Finally due to my urgency, I have changed them with CONTINENTAL tyres with 155/70/R13 EcoContact 3 profile. But I honestly say it provides excellent grip, super silent, good ground clearance and amazing ride quality with super control over steering wheel. I did cool cornering with this during my last trip. Intention of this New Thread: This thread is intended to share your feelings/experiences/reviews about the Wagon-R s which are running Michelin XM1+ tyres (any profile 155/65 or 155/70 but STRICTLY xm1+ only). I just wanted to know your feelings which i was supposed get (if i put Michelin XM1+). I honestly do NOT want to make any comparisons between them, just curious to know your feelings and i want to travel with your feelings through this thread. Kindly do NOT mistake me, am pretty much comfortable with my CONTI tyres and i never regret my decision anyway. Thanks all.
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22nd September 2009, 14:35	#2
abhayshanu BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 708 Thanked: 324 Times View My Garage	Good thread I need to upgrade to xm1 or xm1+ so lets see how this goes. By the way i was thinking of 165/55/R13 or 175/55/R13 not lower as i feel they are just too thin.
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22nd September 2009, 15:40	#3
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,402 Times View My Garage	is there an XM1+ for wagon R? I believe that XM1+ starts only from 14" , and wagon R's have 13 inch rims you might want to check this thread http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...za-wagonr.html
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22nd September 2009, 15:58	#4
rjstyles69 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bengalooru.. Posts: 4,343 Thanked: 842 Times View My Garage	Here's one more thread (Review of Michelin XM1 155/65/R13 on my WagonR) . So would that make you change your tires or rather would it be fair if you were to clock a a few clicks on your brand new set of tires and add a review.
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22nd September 2009, 16:09	#5
Jebs BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 379 Thanked: 66 Times	Hi greenhorn, Me too had a same doubt for xm1+ availablity for R13 rims. But nikhilb2008 says Michelin offers xm1+ energy tyres for 13" rims also. So that i initiated this thread. But Michelin website says xm1+ only for 14" and 15" series. Nikhilb200 , Please confirm this. According to me, xm1+ energy and xm1+ are NOT same. Only energy series starts from 14" above.
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26th September 2009, 15:14	#8
ownerofazkaban BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: BLR Posts: 456 Thanked: 80 Times View My Garage	they are now on 12" too Upgraded 4 tyres on my 800 from 145/70R12 MRF ZVTS to 155/70 R 12 XM1+. I too observe they are not listed in website. I got my tyres from Millivision, Lalbhag road. Guess they are original ones. 2250/- each. Got 125/- for my 50k+ kms zvts which covered for the alignment etc. They tyres are on the original rims, had to get all bends fixed for the rims used. Have retained one old trye for spare. HTH, Last edited by ownerofazkaban : 26th September 2009 at 15:16.
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17th October 2009, 10:51	#9
nayaksudhir BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Noida Posts: 57 Thanked: 29 Times	Michelin 155/70/R13 XM1+ Hi, Upsized yesterday to Michelin XM1+ 155/70/R13. Unfortunately this size doesn't find much mention in the forums although it is experts advised that to be the correct upsize for Wagon R. I bought these from Sunny Tyres (Bill says Sunny Motors) in Sec 64 Noida. Costed me 2725 INR per wheel. 10900 for 4 tyres. When I go for rotation at 5000 Kms thats when I will buy my 5th tyre. Customer service and all was good. Although their Credit Card machine doesn't work! No nitrogen filling available. Haven't driven much after the change, just drove home from the shop but I did feel a little 'high' on these. Will post more as i drive these. Any questions are welcome.
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30th October 2009, 16:34	#10
sats BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 112 Thanked: 36 Times	Hi Guys, Got my Aug'09 WagonR DUO LXI upgraded to the tubeless Michelin XM1+ 155/60 R13 from the OE 145/70 R13 JK Tyres. Had done quite a bit of reseach on the upsize and tyres on T-BHP, with friends and couple of tyre dealers. Took delivery of the car from Garuda Auto and went straight to Sai Iyengar across the road and exchanged all 5 tyres with 22 Kms on them. Cost was Rs.5000/- for exchange to Michelin XM1+, including removal of OE tyres, mounting the Michelins, nitrogen filling, balancing and fitting. Plus got the Michelin branded free Reebok Duffel bag It's been 2500+kms of trouble free, smooth and silent running. The upsize and the tyre tread pattern resulted in slightly weighing up the steering which was welcome compared to the very light steering on the skinnier JK's. Road grip is good, even in the wet and ride quality and handling is up by couple of notches. Have done 3 trips which was mix of national & state highways plus village roads and speeds of upto 130 Kmph, with no issues. Would recommend both the upsize and the XM1+ for the WagonR. Cheers, Sats Last edited by sats : 30th October 2009 at 16:39.
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4th November 2009, 11:13	#11
Jebs BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 379 Thanked: 66 Times	Hi sats, Are the size is 155/60 or 155/65 or 155/70. I don't think michelin has 155/60 profile in R13. Please post the pics too.
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15th April 2010, 10:54	#12
thelightening BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 262 Thanked: 3 Times View My Garage	I have recently upgrade my wagonR from stock 155/65 JK tubetype stock tyres to Michelin energy XM1+ 155/65 R13 tubeless. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...michelins.html I felt a real good difference..
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12th February 2011, 14:35	#13
bblost Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 11,008 Thanked: 15,366 Times View My Garage	Re: Wagon-R owners who upgraded it with Michelin XM1? Replaced my worn out Bridgestone S322's with Michelin XM1+. Cost quoted was Rs 3,000 per tire. Paid Rs 12,000 for tires, valves, fitting, balancing, some weights and alignment. All tires were manufactured in 4510. Initial feel, with less than 3 kms of driving is, they are noisier than my old Bridgestones. But in a nice way. I like the noise they made on an open stretch of road, where I let them go a little fast.
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2nd May 2011, 11:53	#14
shabahmad BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 270 Thanked: 21 Times	Re: Wagon-R owners who upgraded it with Michelin XM1? Me too joined the list of people running on XM1+, changed my 3.5 yrs old Goodyear GPS2 tyres after 42000 km of running, and reason for this change is 5 nails in front Left tyre. New XM1+ tyre cost 3000 each with WA, WB, Nitrogen Filling. No additional charge for card payment with a complimentary box of tissues. Done at Tyre Plus, N Mehta Co, Nashik Phata, Pune. Initally feed back is good grip, accelaration and less rolling resistance.
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