Sometime around August’10, I bought Continental CPC2 after going through its good web reviews. This was a change of all 4 tires on my 4 yr old Honda Civic. However I ended up being quiet disappointed with the tires. IMO it is another hyped product on the web. I was upgrading from my stock Bridgestone BS200 (?? Don’t remember the exact model) and expected significant improvement over them. My observation (in comparison to stock – all purpose Bridgestone) is as following
1.
The dry grip of tires were hardly any better than the Bridgestone I replaced (after running 35k km). Now this is a subjective issue but the benchmark I use to say this is a deserted curve on my daily office drive which I could earlier take at 72kmph on old Bridgestone, I could now take at 76kmph (before under steering starts) on new CPC2. Better but is that all?
2. Since I drive fast on highways I wanted tires with good braking capabilities. This was one primary factor I picked these tires over other options. However here also I find that
on hard braking the tire looses grip easily and the ABS kicks in. No benchmarks here, but it did not inspire any more confidence compared to my earlier tires
3. The tires were not perceptibly quieter though they are claimed to be.
4. These tires are considered good in wet grip, but I did not have any experience
Of course these are my views as a genuine user and the Conti fan club may not be too happy about it. Anyway, so far so good the real trouble starts below.
In October I did a 3500km tour from Bangalore to Mumbai, rest of Maharashtra (Pune, Aurangabad, Ajanta, Ellora, Lonar, Mahabaleshwar, Panchgani, etc) and back. On my way back while going from Mumbai to Mahabaleshwar this scary incident took place.
Just 5 kms before Panchgani, after crossing the Wai ghat… While I was slowly going up towards Panchgani, I had a state transport bus hurling down towards me. To be on the safe side I slowed down further (to about 30km speed) and went slightly off road. It was a proper shoulder with broken potholed road which was well in level with the main road and I had no visible reason to avoid it. But alas immediately I had sidewalls of both my left front and rear tires cut. I was shocked first to see both the tires down in an unknown land 1000km away from home and secondly how could just 2 month old tires give up like that without any abuse.
I had to leave my wife and children there and get some help from nearest town – Panchgani. Now from this point onwards I had interactions with 3 tyre dealers and 3 opinions.
1. The first one was the tyre shop at Panchgani, he came saw the tires, saw the road 10 meters behind where the cut happened and then laughed at me – “
Sir, some dealer has made fool of you buy selling you these imported tyres, they are useless for here”.
Anyway, the stupid choice of tyre was mine, so can’t blame the dealer but by now this thought had started settling in, and I said ***, just get them repaired so that I can drive back 1000km to home. He also made a fool of me by patching two tyres for Rs.600 after negotiating from Rs.850 (what choice did I have, the only thing in my mind was to get back to my family stranded on the ghat along with car). The front tire which was damaged more was replaced with Spare tire. And the rear one was put back after repairing. Still I had both the tires repaired – just in case…
The tire shop asked me to drive under 100kmph as the heat might release the patch. I decided to be extra careful and strictly restricted myself below 80. That day went peacefully thereafter with local sightseeing at maby, next day hardly about 150km, down the ghat and little ahead, I realized that I was losing pressure. I parked down and heard the patch leaking. Changed to the other repaired tire and now I was really scared as I had no back up and this was worse than the first one. I repositioned all the luggage and people in the car to other areas trying to avoid load on that wheel (difficult to do in a loaded car) and drove at speed of 10-15 km to the next puncture shop about 6 kms ahead.
2. Now this puncture guy again smiled at me and said –
“hmm… made in Portugal…sir buy new set of tires, these tires are very delicate and dangerous”.
He told me about the accidents that he has seen on Bombay Pune highway, where imported tires have busted after hitting the potholes! I asked him for reliable fix, to which he said that the patch wont last, the only option is to put a tube inside after putting the patch – he had a used tube which was bigger size than my tire. So we dropped the tube idea and just got the tire patched. Next big City Karad was 20km away so I decided to take my chance and drive slowly till there. This time the tire was patched for Rs.150 only.
3. At Karad, I first tried to get a spare tire but was not getting 205/65/15 so just decided to get tubes in both the tires. That way it should be as good as a regular tubed tire and I should be able to do 100kmph safely. Found one Apollo tire shop which had new Sumo tubes of 205/65/15 so got the job done there. This guy actually explained me the problem with the CPC2 tires
a. The sidewall is barely 2mm thick of delicate rubber. It felt like about half of a Bridgestone tire sidewall thickness that he showed me. This was indeed shocking, all this while I was entrusting my family’s safety to 2mm thick sidewall tire, I mean it was never expected to be tough but then that thin!!!
b. Second issue was that even with recommended PSI of 30 (I was maintaining 32 PSI of nitrogen), there is a fair amount of curve in the tire sidewall, i.e. on any pothole the sidewall of the tire is likely to hit the road. And these two factor together with a loaded car, seem to have done it for me.
To conclude the whole post,
my learning’s to share are:
1. Safety was my top concern, I ignored the soft side wall gripe of imported tires (Michelin and Conti) thinking I will get good grip tires and not compromise on safety – I was wrong. These (CPC2) tires have no great grip and they can be much more dangerous incase the side wall hits a pothole and gives up at high speed.
All the gyan of good grip vs soft side wall compromise is justification for bad product. I guess I would consume these in daily city drive and would stick with Bridgestone for long drives.
2. On long drives,
always keep a spare tube of same size as your tubeless tire along with you. It will cost about 500 bucks and take no space, but in case you get two wheels down like I did it can be a real savior.
3.
You just can’t make your purchases based on web reviews, these days companies spend more marketing dollars manipulating the web
It’s late I know but finally I just managed to gather some time to share this intense experience of mine with the fellow community.
BTW I did speak to the dealer all throughout, he was helpful in guidance and later kind enough to ask me to leave one tire with him, for which he would try and arrange a discount of 30% on a new tire purchase after discussing with the company person. Not yet got the time to do that, so the new CPC2 damaged tire (now in boot) is counting it’s days.