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Originally Posted by Thermodynamics Go for the Crysta.
Looking at prices of the tune of 21 lakhs for Seltos with that puny 1.5L, Innova Crysta looks so much value for money for the sheer hardware. It is only a matter of time before prices shoot up. |
Thanks for the suggestions brother! But, the problem with the Crysta is, its overpriced and wanted to change the brand as well this time.
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Originally Posted by Voyager-1 You are in a unique situation but with a unique advantage too. Let me explain.
Go ahead and replace your Innova with a Creta/Seltos for now. Try to live with it for let’s say 1-2 years. After that if you feel you can’t do without an Innova, you can replace your Honda City with a Crysta. |
Yeah, that's the option which I'm suggesting my dad since long to do the same. But, he might get convinced with the above option as I'm persuading him to get a 5 seater car for now and later, get a 7 seater car for himself after 1-2 years. Anyways, thanks for the suggestion.
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Originally Posted by amoghchaphalkar I have been in your situation. Replaced a 2009 Innova (V) with a 2017 Crysta 2.4 (VX) There is, simply, no other option.
The 2017 Crysta we bought is a pre-owned one since a new one was ridiculously expensive. |
That's good to know that you had bought an used Crysta as a replacement for 2009 Innova. Well, we are also in same conundrum and considering a used one due to the same reason you mentioned above along with new Crysta as well but the sad reality is even an used Crysta is expensive in used car market, thanks to its excellent resale value and if purchasing new one doesn't happen, then will look for used one as well.
Anyways, for how much did you purchase the used Crysta and how much it has run at the time of purchase?
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Originally Posted by swarnava.ch As others have suggested, you are used to Toyota and Innova, anything else will be a bit underwhelming for you. But before that, do you need a 7 seater ? If yes then Alcazar, Ertiga, XL6 can be options other than Innova GX.
If 7 seater is not a must, there are some very nice 5 seater SUVs - Creta, Seltos, SCross, XUV 300, Nexon.
Only thing is before you choose Tata cars, rest assured you will have disappointment coming in from Toyota on the service experiance. |
Thanks for the suggestions! Yes, we will also look at Alcazar as well!
And, coming to Tata, yes, definitely will miss the Toyota experience if we purchase a Tata vehicle.
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Originally Posted by kadanaJ If the above are actually your reasons for buying a new car, don't!
Buying a new car will NOT save you money vs. keeping your old Innova.
It will however provide you with a superior, and more comfortable vehicle.
Have done a quick back-of-hand calculation for you. Have attached the excel, so you may change the assumptions I have made. |
Thanks for the excel
! Will surely consider this option as well but my dad is adamant on selling off the Innova soon.
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Originally Posted by KungFuPanda Why don't you consider the Kia Carnival? It would be the ideal upgrade from an Innova, especially if your travel is in metros / highways. |
Considered the Kia Carnival as well but the top end is more expensive when compared to the Crysta and I'll get only base model in our budget!
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Originally Posted by mohitchalla Given your situation and fuel efficiency concerns, replacing the vehicle will not solve anything. Let us assume that you get marginally better FE, spending a lot of money to replace the vehicle is not justifiable.
Secondly, 1.8L KMS on an Innova is not very high. Just do regular servicing and keep the car for as long as you can. That is where you will save the most. You can replace the shocks if the older vehicle's ride quality has deteriorated. Our family has an Innova that has done 5.8L KMS in last 11 years, works like a charm and we have no intention of replacing it.
Hope this helps. Cheers! |
Thanks for the suggestion and its surprising to know that your 11 year old Innova has 5.8L Kms in 11 years, which speaks a lot about the reliability of the Toyota!
Coming to our Innova, my dad still wanted to keep the present Innova but I'm persuading him to sell it off as the car had met with couple of accidents in 2020!
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Originally Posted by N4Nikunj Dear Car_guy1998,
I will suggest you get The Innova Crysta.
Not that Tata and Korean twins are bad but considering that you are planning to move abroad and your parents' age a niggle free car is a good choice for their peace of mind and yours too.
Other than that your existing Innova is not at all that old. 178k is nothing for that keeper D4D.
As far as fuel efficiency is concerned, The Innova Crysta will not give too much mileage than your old Innova. Here new car buying cost is not taken into account.
How come your car's maintenance is that high?
Please change your Service center or move to FNG. If possible can you please share your car's service bills for better understanding? |
Thanks for the suggestions! Yes, 1.78L Kms is nothing for an Innova and can run more if maintained well but we eventually want to let it go due to some reasons.
The high maintenance is due to the car's age and after the purchase of the vehicle, it had met with an accident when the car was taken by the previous owner of the vehicle, who is our close acquaintance as well, as his previous Innova was facing some troubles and hence, he took our Innova to that trip along with their Fortuner, which replaced this Innova which bought.
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Originally Posted by samm My 2011 Innova GX, run 1.4L kms, returns highway FE of 13-14 kmpl, maintenance cost of about 9-11K (every 10k km). Running on 2nd set of Yokos (225 R15). Unchanged clutch. Going strong.
I'm also looking to replace, and even without budget constraints (upper limit of 50L), I find it difficult to get an alternative to Crysta.
A quick summary below.
Vehicles driven:
1. Harrier - super looks. won't feel the road. Good buy at 20L on road Bangalore. You wouldn't regret. A great 5 seater.
2. Safari - rear is not that great. They shouldn't have tried to have the old 'safari' step roof. Zero boot space. Sunroof is amazing.
3. Fortuner - Powerful monster... Unbeatable looks. You will feel even a small stone on road. Engine roar. Space is decent, interiors could have been more premium looking for the price
4. Endeavor - great interiors and features. Useless 3rd row. Need to be an acrobat to get in there. Decent power, but not comparable with Fortuner.
5. Jeep Compass - best interiors, great looks. But cramped interiors, reliability issues, atrocious price
6. Crysta - ticks all boxes, except sunroof. Still the best bet in this list
If you want all the practicality, space, reliability and comfort of old Innova, there is nothing else upto 45 lakhs. And you get the added power and great interiors. |
Thanks for the suggestions! Yeah, its quite difficult to replace an Innova but to be honest, even a Fortuner is not a worthy replacement for Innova in terms of rear seat comfort and my dad always loathes the Fortuner due to the same reason.
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Originally Posted by Encyclopedic I think you should drive and be driven in Hyundai and Kia twins. Its not easy to migrate from body on frame to monocoque chassis IMHO. There is no advice in the world that can beat driving experience. You should take prolonged drives in Hyundai/Kia. We tend to give importance to features or specifications mentioned in brochure but the real thing that matters is the experience we get while riding a vehicle. |
Thanks for the suggestions! Yes, I had TD of both Creta and Seltos and found the suspension of the Seltos is more suited for enthusiastic driving while the suspension of the Creta is more suited for comfort and sedate driving.
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Originally Posted by poised2drive Abhinav, apart from your fanboyism, there is no point in buying Seltos and that too as a replacement for Innova, which is itself a blasphemy !
Creta & Seltos are pointless buys unless they replace City, which is not the case.
Why are you not looking at Alcazar ?
With its 1.5 L Diesel Mill , it will perfectly fit your requirement of Fuel Efficient 7 seater a - after all it is a CRDi , though the comfort offered will be a notch below the Toyotas.
But if your requirement is immediate, then only Innova can fill in those shoes .
Next comes the Tata Safari .
I believe MG Hector Plus is one more option you can look at apart from the vehicles from the Maruti |
Thanks for the suggestions Manas! Yeah, replacing the Innova with the Seltos is blasphemy and the Seltos is more suited as the replacement for the Honda City after doing a TD. But, the plan is to get the Seltos or Creta as the replacement of the Innova and later on, will replace the City with Crysta only if my dad doesn't get satisfied with the crossovers in terms of seating.
Yes, will definitely look for the Alcazar as well before looking at the Creta/Seltos twins and Innova Crysta and we are not in hurry as well.
Coming to MG, the new facelifted one seemed to look good but dad doesn't want to purchase a Chinese product.