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Originally Posted by good.car-ma Thats his personal decision. Initially he said he would take a sabbatical to spend time with his wife and new-born son. So what if he didnt come back, that doesnt mean he is a quitter. |
Its hilarious when you say this as a reason for him to quit. If the reason was genuine he wouldnt get behind the wheels of a DTM car to race again. His chapter is over and its not worth discussing anything about him.
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Atleast he isnt coming back after few years and making a mockery of himself like some other drivers
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Michael is doing it for his passion and he is back again on the grid at 41 racing with the young guns rather than looking like a quitter. It will not be a mockery for a long time.
With the limited amount of testing, every team is looking at a strategy to hire experienced drivers who can give valuable inputs in developing their cars.
I have great hope in Michael's ability in developing a car and he is quite famous for that and proved himself with Ferrari.
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Originally Posted by Cesc Could you please direct me to the regulations which specifies that overtaking a safety car is a black flag offence? Honestly I could not find it anywhere (No sarcasm here). I will be really surprised if the stewards went against the rule book there. |
I dont know the rule book inside out. But, I can provide you a case where a similar situation was black flagged.
Round Two - Imola - GP2 Series - Paddock 2010 The ART pilot, now thinking he was last despite coming out of the pits ahead of the race leader, followed the two Campos drivers past the safety car after they'd been waved through, and he scampered around the track once again to take his actual pitstop, this time actually coming back out behind the rest of the field as they crawled past. The timing monitors had him leading the race by almost a lap despite Gimmi controlling his nerve to lead the pack away when the race restarted, but a few laps later Lewis was back in the pits for good courtesy of a black flag penalty for overtaking the safety car on track. Quote:
Pipe down pal. I have been cordial in my post. Now you are trying to make this personal.
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Never meant anything to get personal mate!
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Go back and read in what context I mentioned the other two sports. It was about officials making mistakes. Stewards can make mistakes while interpreting a rule as long as the situation requires judgement. I nowhere mentioned the time/replays dimension. Those kind of mistakes can be made even if one has all the time in the world to look at replays.
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It happens in cricket/football where its observed and validated by a human in person while making a decision. Chances for errors are higher.
Its not the same in F1. Stewards are a group of people sitting there for 2hours over a weekend just to analyse any infractions and give a warning/penalty as required, its not acceptable for them to do a mistake provided the kind of access they have to resources. Starting from radio conversation between the driver and pit wall, telemetry and all the video feeds! Its simply not acceptable in a sport where 0.001 seconds is considered worthy.
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And I am not saying that stewards are consistent with all decisions. I am saying on the whole taken over a period of time their decisions tend to even out. No teams are in particular favoured/penalised. You really need to read what I have written rather than finding an excuse for training your guns on me.
In addition, I will repeat this again for the third time - teams can appeal a majority of the stewards' decisions. So if this was the 4th time this season that a particualar driver was favoured this season while isn't any team lodging protests? Most of the team principals have been in there for long and have seen it all. They know when a driver is being favoured and what needs to be done if they feel a particular driver is being favoured.
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Ferrari did protest the decision when Lewis's case was handled with all comfort by the stewards. It is not all about being favored, its about
consistency of ruling a punishment for any breach of rules. I fail to see this consistency this season.
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Nobody is proud and nobody needs to be ashamed while voicing their opinion. Where does pride and shame enter here? I am seriously having trouble comprehending where you are going with this.
You are making it look as if the whole world is against MS or Ferrari or whatever. It's not always Ferrari vs McLaren or MS vs other drivers so don't make it that way.
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85838 "Throwing a black flag would have shown a better example to our young drivers," Warwick told BBC's Radio 5 Live.
Better example for young drivers!? What is Warwick trying to say here? There were too many occasions this year where they could have given more examples for the young guns.
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The guy himself has come out and said that he deserved the punishment meted out to him. That means he admits it was wrong to have made the move he made. Give him credit for that and move on. If people still have a problem with him admiting as much and find pleasure in lambasting the stewards then there is something seriously wrong with that.
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There is no sense in whining to the media and he accepts the punishment. Good for him to move on and I have already mentioned the same in my previous post.
My previous post about the stewards is not in context to the incident involving Michael in Hungary. But for the whole of this 2010 season.