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Old 15th August 2014, 22:03   #211
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I have the OBD stuff but its not detecting the connection to the ECU for some reason. i have to fix that before i clear the error codes.

on a related note, the car went into limp mode today. had no power and a lot of misfiring from the car. it cleared out itself after i left the engine running for a few minutes. checked everything but could not find what was wrong. we did leave the battery unplugged for 5 minutes post this to clear anything that the ECU might be holding on to.
Use MultiECUScan software. That the only.one which will detect palios. Not torque or anything else.

Disconnecting the battery will not clear DTCs. Perhaps get the coil packs checked.
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Use MultiECUScan software. That the only.one which will detect palios. Not torque or anything else.

Disconnecting the battery will not clear DTCs. Perhaps get the coil packs checked.
I have the MultiECUScan and FiatECUScan software. Both are not detecting the ECU. Its not a problem with the software. the hardware drivers for the cables and the OBD converter are not being recognized in Windows. Come conflict with the COM ports that i need to figure out.
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@ lucifer919, this thread is a treasure trove for all things Palio 1.6. Thanks for sharing the detailed posts.

I need your help on something. I have a strong feeling that the alternator/ the associated parts on my Palio Stile 1.6 is on its way out. There is prominent, pretty irritating hum/ whirring sound that can be heard over the engine sound. The sound seems to go up and down with the rpm changes. How can I diagnose this correctly? Any tell-tale signs?

On an related note, could you please let us know about your experiences with www.99rpm.com? Recently found it and I've to admit, it seems to be a heaven for us 'spare part deprived' FIAT owners.
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There is prominent, pretty irritating hum/ whirring sound that can be heard over the engine sound. The sound seems to go up and down with the rpm changes. How can I diagnose this correctly? Any tell-tale signs?
Is the alternator healthy in your car. stand in front of the car and try to locate the source of the sound from the right hand side / driver's side in the engine bay. Please ask someone to raise the RPM / turn the potensiometer / black wheel thingy to which the throttle cable is connected.

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On an related note, could you please let us know about your experiences with www.99rpm.com? Recently found it and I've to admit, it seems to be a heaven for us 'spare part deprived' FIAT owners.
You can get spares from 99rpm at ease. They deliver at your door step.
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On an related note, could you please let us know about your experiences with [URL="http://www.99rpm.com?"
www.99rpm.com?[/url] Recently found it and I've to admit, it seems to be a heaven for us 'spare part deprived' FIAT owners.
Hello MaddyCrew,

Thanks. The description matches what you would hear if the alternator bearing is on its way out or already there. Very simple replacement that would take less than a 15 minutes if you have a knowledgeable mechanic.

In case you are unable to find a FIAT labelled replacement bearing, you can get the one used for TATA Indica. Ask for the genuine Tata Indica Alternator bearing. It costs 480 Rs. and is identical to the OEM part number and a direct bolt-on. Note that this is not jugaad but the correct matching part in Tata packaging.

99RPM has been a god-send to me. over the past year I've bought parts worth about 2 Lacs from them, for both my cars. Every part has been exactly as described and a perfect fit. Earlier they used to sell after-market quality parts as well but they have discontinued this as well. only FIAT Genuine parts from them and it keeps me happy and my cars ticking. No complaints so far. If there is a mixup in shipping or the part, just drop them an e-mail and they do revert/rectify immediately.

i have actually stopped going to stores/A.S.S. for parts. i just plan my services in advance and order parts accordingly. They have never let me down.

Hope this helps.

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Well, turns out the coolant issue has aggravated. Was washing the car today and checked the coolant reservoir to find it empty. Filled it up with water (it took over 2 litres of water!!) and found it just draining out from the bottom.

Took it to Bugstop and checked. Replaced the clamps around the hoses but this did not help. On closer inspection, saw that the leak is occurring from the metal pipe that goes into the engine block, through the thermostat assembly (next to/above the exhaust headers). Looks like it has a hole or has cracked.

Didn't have enough time to get this fixed today so parked the car back at home. Will get this fixed on Monday for sure.

Just wondering if anyone has seen/experienced this issue before?

On another note, the coolant reservoir in my car has gone opaque so i cant see any coolant levels. This happened after the Fiat A.S.S. had previously used some synthetic coolant that was red in colour. This has left a layer of gunk in the insides of the tank. Does anyone know what i can use to wash/clean this out?
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Just wondering if anyone has seen/experienced this issue before?
Faced the same issue on my 1.6 Adventure. One day the temp needle kept rising and rising and after limping it home found the coolant to be completely out.
Took it to the radiator guy and spent a frustrating couple of hours with him. Being 10 years old and 90k run, the hose pipes had cracked, and the thermostat had rusted. Coolant was leaking out from the joint of the hose pipe and the thermostat. Bought new pipes and tried securing them, but it would still leak, as the thermostat itself had rusted, and the rubber would not completely seal the joint. So had to scrape away the rust and then then re attach the pipes.
Since your car has run more than mine,I suggest to change the hose pipes as well as the thermostat. And go for radiator flushing as well. Gives it a new life.
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Got the coolant issue fixed. The pipe had cracked and had to be welded back. Nothing else around this including the rubber hoses were damaged or cracked so looks like this was just a stress fracture.
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Its called "hockey" pipe as the shape looks like hockey bat. New ones are available from Kava for around 950 bucks
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The car had a small mishap today morning. My wife was out to drop our son to school and a tempo swerved into the right lane from the left lane.

Left a crumpled front left fender, scuffed bumper and damaged wheel. Have dropped the car at Pavan's garage for a paint job now.

Getting the front bumper, front left fender, left front and rear doors and the boot door painted. These parts had minor imperfections when they were painted earlier at Aadya Motors and i wasn't happy with the way the car looked, so getting all of them painted while i'm at it.

I actually wanted to go for a full car paint but Pavan talked me out of it.

Some pictures of the after-math below:
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Ouch. Glad that the Headlight is perfectly fine, heard that the Stile headlights cost a bomb. Please do post pictures after the paintjob
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Hello All,

Here are updates on the car status today. The dents have been pulled out and levelled. They are now coated with the body filler to level out the imperfections. This will further be sanded down (like the front fender shown here) and sprayed with surfacer before painting.
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Here is one pic that i managed to click today.

Exactly Half and a little more of the car was Re-Sprayed. And paint matching was SPOT-ON
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Here is one pic that i managed to click today.

Exactly Half and a little more of the car was Re-Sprayed. And paint matching was SPOT-ON
WOW! Good job Pavan. The car looks better than ever.

How much was the damage on the alloys? How did you repair those?
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WOW! Good job Pavan. The car looks better than ever.

How much was the damage on the alloys? How did you repair those?
The wheel only had surface scuff marks which were covered up using paint.
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