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Old 24th June 2017, 13:04   #601
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The bike had been kept unused for a while now.

So got it serviced from Saphire Honda as it's closest from the place I stay. Here's the bill. Caused much heartburn.

It still has a tingling vibration on the handlebar though, not sure why.
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Old 24th June 2017, 22:55   #602
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The bike had been kept unused for a while now.

So got it serviced from Saphire Honda as it's closest from the place I stay. Here's the bill. Caused much heartburn.

It still has a tingling vibration on the handlebar though, not sure why.
Why a double charge for fork oil
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The bike had been kept unused for a while now.

So got it serviced from Saphire Honda as it's closest from the place I stay. Here's the bill. Caused much heartburn.

It still has a tingling vibration on the handlebar though, not sure why.
Just a few questions. Why were mechanical components changed since you haven't used the bike. At least from what I reckon, if the vehicle is parked a for quite a while, engine oil and fluid replacement would suffice. Did your bike had stitching noises from the engine, before parking the bike for so long? I mean, valve train noises and fork seal leakage? Any echo the same question why was fork oil billed twice, when the first one was billed as 2 nox.

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Just a few questions.

One of the fork seals had gone bust. Since I had 20w oil put in, and Honda uses only 10w, I asked them to change oil on both the forks. Apparently each fork needs 2 units of fork oil is what he said when I asked the SA. I didn't prod further.

The tappet noise was present earlier because in Kolkata none of the SVCs knew how to check valve clearance (not sure of the present condition of their skills). Plus, the front calliper piston had jammed and a service of the same didn't help. Hence, they had to replace the front calliper assembly.
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Apparently each fork needs 2 units of fork oil is what he said when I asked the SA. I didn't prod further
That is true; 315 or 325 ml IIRC is what is required for each of the sides.
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That is true; 315 or 325 ml IIRC is what is required for each of the sides.
Right, aargee. 331 ML plus +-10 ML

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Hello Folks, this is Bharath here from Hyderabad and i have a new 2018 CBR whose first service was done today. Distance travelled~200 kms. Now, everytime i use the rear brake hard it starts to rub/vibrate a bit.

A little later in the night, as i was ambling driving the vehicle in a silent spot, usage of rear brake/clutch/ front brakes caused some strange squeaks to be heard temporarily. These sounds are not heard regularly though.

Is it the water wash that has removed the oil and causing this?

Also the marks on the front disc are radial (in the form of circles) but the rear disc does not have them radial. They are a mix of tangents(straight lines) in different ditections and radials. Any idea if this is normal.

Please advise.

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Hello Folks, this is Bharath here from Hyderabad and i have a new 2018 CBR whose first service was done today. Distance travelled~200 kms. Now, everytime i use the rear brake hard it starts to rub/vibrate a bit.

A little later in the night, as i was ambling driving the vehicle in a silent spot, usage of rear brake/clutch/ front brakes caused some strange squeaks to be heard temporarily. These sounds are not heard regularly though.

Is it the water wash that has removed the oil and causing this?

Also the marks on the front disc are radial (in the form of circles) but the rear disc does not have them radial. They are a mix of tangents(straight lines) in different ditections and radials. Any idea if this is normal.

Please advise.

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Bharath

Hello, Bharath. Some "operational sounds" for a lack of a better term are present in almost all vehicles, depending on the way the cables are routed and what not. Clutches make some mild clicking sound when engaging, and front brake lever too make mild clicking sound, which is absolutely normal.

Excessive water pressure can indeed clear off lubricants at certain points where parts are greased. It's advisable to use mild pressure on mechanical parts and electrical components.

Braking produces concentric rings on the rotor, as you've observed on your front rotor. The rear too must have the same concentric rings. Some tangential lines too are okay, they visible at certain angles, but mostly concentric rings.

A little homework for you. Check the rear caliper mount and the bolts check if they're loose. Hold the rear caliper firmly and give it firm shake, the caliper should move every so slightly, which is normal. If the caliper literally shakes off like a loose part, then it's time to tighten the caliper bolts (A loose caliper scenario is extremely unlikely)

Lastly, maybe you're concentrating a wee bit more on some sounds which are absolutely normal. Keep riding as you normally would, while observing the braking characteristics. Normal chain lubing, and lubing all the critical points as mentioned in the owners manual, would reduce of the creaks you're observing.

Invest in a good pair of helmet and gloves, if you haven't. Ride safe.

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Hello, Bharath. Some "operational sounds" for a lack of a better term are present in almost all vehicles, depending on the way the cables are routed and what not. Clutches make some mild clicking sound when engaging, and front brake lever too make mild clicking sound, which is absolutely normal.

Excessive water pressure can indeed clear off lubricants at certain points where parts are greased. It's advisable to use mild pressure on mechanical parts and electrical components.

Braking produces concentric rings on the rotor, as you've observed on your front rotor. The rear too must have the same concentric rings. Some tangential lines too are okay, they visible at certain angles, but mostly concentric rings.

A little homework for you. Check the rear caliper mount and the bolts check if they're loose. Hold the rear caliper firmly and give it firm shake, the caliper should move every so slightly, which is normal. If the caliper literally shakes off like a loose part, then it's time to tighten the caliper bolts (A loose caliper scenario is extremely unlikely)

Lastly, maybe you're concentrating a wee bit more on some sounds which are absolutely normal. Keep riding as you normally would, while observing the braking characteristics. Normal chain lubing, and lubing all the critical points as mentioned in the owners manual, would reduce of the creaks you're observing.

Invest in a good pair of helmet and gloves, if you haven't. Ride safe.

Cheers!
VJ
Thanks VJ,

That was reassuring and just what i needed for the moment. Will check what you asked me to and as you pointed out, get the lubing done frequently.

Thanks again,
Bharath
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A little later in the night, as i was ambling driving the vehicle in a silent spot, usage of rear brake/clutch/ front brakes caused some strange squeaks to be heard temporarily. These sounds are not heard regularly though
If the noise bothers you, here's what you need to do...
1. Buy rubbing alcohol from a medical store
2. Use it to clean the rotors of the disc brakes using a CLEAN cloth. Use the solution liberally
3. Remove the pad & clean it as well, if you're a DIY guy OR ask all the above to be done by ASC for you

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but the rear disc does not have them radial. They are a mix of tangents(straight lines) in different ditections and radials. Any idea if this is normal
Pls wait until the vehicle runs something like 1-2K Km & see if the concentric circle appears on the rotors. 99.99% it should, otherwise, this is an issue.
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Hello Folks, this is Bharath here from Hyderabad and i have a new 2018 CBR whose first service was done today. Distance travelled~200 kms. Now, everytime i use the rear brake hard it starts to rub/vibrate a bit.

A little later in the night, as i was ambling driving the vehicle in a silent spot, usage of rear brake/clutch/ front brakes caused some strange squeaks to be heard temporarily. These sounds are not heard regularly though.

Is it the water wash that has removed the oil and causing this?

Also the marks on the front disc are radial (in the form of circles) but the rear disc does not have them radial. They are a mix of tangents(straight lines) in different ditections and radials. Any idea if this is normal.

Please advise.

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Don't worry. All the things you mentioned are quite normal. The bike being new, some components need to settle after a bit of wear (especially new brake pads). Chill and enjoy your ride.
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Hello Folks, this is Bharath here from Hyderabad and i have a new 2018 CBR whose first service was done today. Distance travelled~200 kms. Now, everytime i use the rear brake hard it starts to rub/vibrate a bit.

A little later in the night, as i was ambling driving the vehicle in a silent spot, usage of rear brake/clutch/ front brakes caused some strange squeaks to be heard temporarily. These sounds are not heard regularly though.

Is it the water wash that has removed the oil and causing this?

Also the marks on the front disc are radial (in the form of circles) but the rear disc does not have them radial. They are a mix of tangents(straight lines) in different ditections and radials. Any idea if this is normal.

Please advise.

Regards
Bharath
Sounds normal! Run-in the brakes correctly for the first few kms.
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Hello Folks, this is Bharath here from Hyderabad and i have a new 2018 CBR whose first service was done today. Distance travelled~200 kms. Now, everytime i use the rear brake hard it starts to rub/vibrate a bit.
If yours is an ABS model, maybe the ABS is kicking in.
Why are you using the rear brakes hard?

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If yours is an ABS model, maybe the ABS is kicking in.
Why are you using the rear brakes hard?

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I was running fever and was not exactly at my best strength wise. While getting out of the service centre, to maintain balance, I accidentally pressed the rear brake hard. Thats when i had this feeling. But now a week later all seems set.

Thank you anyway...

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If the noise bothers you, here's what you need to do...
1. Buy rubbing alcohol from a medical store
2. Use it to clean the rotors of the disc brakes using a CLEAN cloth. Use the solution liberally
3. Remove the pad & clean it as well, if you're a DIY guy OR ask all the above to be done by ASC for you


Pls wait until the vehicle runs something like 1-2K Km & see if the concentric circle appears on the rotors. 99.99% it should, otherwise, this is an issue.
Thanks for that. Also will watch out for the circles as the kilometers stack up.

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Don't worry. All the things you mentioned are quite normal. The bike being new, some components need to settle after a bit of wear (especially new brake pads). Chill and enjoy your ride.






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Sounds normal! Run-in the brakes correctly for the first few kms.
Thanks a lot guys...

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