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Originally Posted by avira_tk The steering it seems isa bit numb, at parking speeds this is a blessing, on the highway it gets tiring.I just read an article saying that this was a HPS system, pretty sure that is not the case, can someone verify? The article was written by an OD big shot. |
It comes with a HPS unit and not an EPS which would have been way too lighter like the ones that you see in Honda City. They have used a nice fancy terminology to give that marketing flair
Steering feel is quite decent. Though I personally would have preferred a slightly more weighty overall feel
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Originally Posted by Santoshbhat I wish VW had done away the 3 pot 1.2 and replaced it with this 1.2 TSI and saved the 1.4 TSI for the "GT" , with a proper body kit and sporty suspension. I hope VW has done their homework on the DQ200 DSG box. Its one thing to ask 2L from a Superb owner to replace a failed gear box and another thing from the owner of a sub 10L hatchback. |
If only wishes were horses. Please add the 1.6D in the Polo as well
Everyone is hoping the same on the DSG gearbox that the issues that cropped up in Superb wont be repeated in the Polo. Lets keep our fingers crossed as only time will tell us
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Originally Posted by anandpadhye So even if you are in the manual mode, the DSG will downshift during corners? Why would that be?
BTW, other member forecasted that there will be no intercooler in this version. Is that true? Does it make any perceptible difference in hot weather, bumper to bumper traffic? |
Downshift purely depends on the rpm range to ensure that car doesnt stall. If your taking a corner at really slow speed then gear will downshift but, if your throwing the car in the corner at a higher speed then downshifts wont happen.
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Originally Posted by Arch-Angel Ah Mobike, a really great review of a good car. 104 horses seem delicious but real enthusiasts would love to have this in a manual. |
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Originally Posted by BigBrad And, I hope VW doesn't over price it though. But with a TSI motor, DSG box and other expensive gadgetry, I don't think they're looking for too much volumes either. |
Pricing is everyone's guess as VW is tight-lipped about this even till today. Iam sure the concrete information on pricing should be out in a day or two.
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Originally Posted by BigBrad Do you have any range/avg mileage figures that you got through the MID? With an ARAI rating of 17.2kmpl, I guess it should be pretty fuel efficient when driven sedately. |
Hold on to your horses
. The worst mid showed was 7.2kmpl and best was 9.8kmpl. But, then i was clipping it to a large extent
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Originally Posted by CPJ Excellent Review as always.
I'm little disappointed with the fact that there is no manual transmission to play around with this gem of an engine. However people looking for a sub 10 lakhs auto box, the Polo 1.2 TSI seems like a very good option. |
Iam not sure why everyone is rueing over the non-availbility instead of getting excited about the DSG box which is a surprise offering in this segment.
Trust me, Iam a complete manual lover and tiptronic mode in DSG box is a fun mode and you will not really miss the MT too much.
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Originally Posted by aaggoswami Nice and very precise review.
1) What is quality of fuel required ? Considering that still we are not having 95 RON fuel, will it do good on 91 RON ? Was there any clarification and/or specification provided by VW ?
2) Price will make this car elude the main target market for this car. Diesel will still be the preference for many Polo buyers.
3) Maintenance and parts is another area where I feel that Polo owners will feel the pinch. Also, as far as petrol cars go, people are not used to idling ( they dont do it even with diesels ) which might not be good in the long run.
4) Rear discs must be provided for a car which is powerful by Indian standards.
5) Extended warranty or any thing is an absolute must for this car due to the gearbox. A simple manual six speed would be much better and reliable option than the not-so-reliable dual clutch gearbox. |
I agree on rear discs missing part, they could have easily accomodated that to make the car fully loaded and ensure greater safety.
There was no mention of specific fuel grades to be used for the engine which is logical considering its not a possibility if VW is planning to sell this car in decent volumes
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Originally Posted by noopster Super review Avi. The interior pics looked very familiar- the GT TSI shares the gear lever and MID (including gear indicator) with my Vento . The new upholstery gives it an evil look, though!
DSG and TSI engine on a hatchback- finally VW does something that offers an enthusiast a real option! Hopefully the DSG woes are behind them. |
I too noticed everything looked familiar to the Vento/Polo except for a few subtle changes which you outlined. For a new buyer, everything will look exciting and sporty
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Originally Posted by Vid6639 Obviously they are not after numbers since the car has cutting edge tech, very decent features which equates to higher price tag also.
Guys who own high end cars and want a second car will love this option now.
This is the only way to get back sales of petrol cars. Offer class leading performance and try to appeal to the fun to drive factor rather than the FE. Ever since the govt. regulations for 1.2L engines came into effect the fun to drive factor has vanished and we got slow petrol motors that were detuned in interest of FE. Then the petrol prices shot up and killed this segment completely. With the 1.5L TRD Etios Liva and not the Polo GT, the appeal moves to the performance and fun factor which I think is the way to go.
I seriously think this engine and DSG box should also go into the Vento as well. It will give a small scare to the Honda City and Hyundai Verna. |
Bang on Viddy. Infact, after the drive I had already made my mind that if i want to buy a petrol hatch, this would be one as i was so enamoured by this fun to drive car. Only thing that may pull away prospective buyers like me is price tag and also the reliability of DSG box
I can predict people will be snapping away this car in "pre-worshipped" market a few years down the line
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Originally Posted by Mpower Superb move by VW...almost !!!
A turbo on a 1.2 engine is a clever way to get around exise regulations. Have your cake & eat it too !!!
Imagine how much more affordable it would be with a M/T. (how much is it on the Superb.. lakh&half?) |
They kept it simple. One Variant. One Gearbox option. Premium Price. It's almost like inviting a select few customers who are serious about their driving.
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Originally Posted by ampere Question for you :
At TD time did VW have any statement to make regarding the gearbox reliability? This question must have been surely raised. |
Not just me. Everyone had the same question but, our question was ambigiously responded which doesnt really give a clear picture
Therefore, its best to wait for actual owners feedback and for time to tell us they really fixed the issues that were with this gearbox in the past.
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Originally Posted by v.anand I agree, manual must also be launched for this engine. However, this engine is a gem and beats anything upto 1.6l hands down, being the world engine of the year winner. |
Comparing a 1.6L with a 1.2L is like comparing oranges to apple. But, with this 1.2L TSI motor fortunately it wont be the case. You can compare this 1.2L with a 1.6L because the overall feel of the engine is equivalent to the bigger engine.
TSI + DSG gearbox is simply a fun quotient combination
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Originally Posted by DexterMorgan OT- It is time TBbhp also includes short video reviews (like acceleration, engine and muffler sounds etc) as part of official test drives to take it to the next level. |
Good Suggestion. We try our best to cover as much as possible in the short time the car is available with us.
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Originally Posted by el lobo 6061 Info: A birdie tells me that Polo GT 1.2 TSi will be priced at 6.5 lac Ex-Showroom Thane. 20 days waiting with colors white and black. |
If this is true, the OTR will be 7.25L Mumbai and this is simply too mouthwatering. I think it will be unlikely they will launch at this price.