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Old 20th May 2015, 15:12   #46
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The engine block colour seems to be red primer - similar to Fiats of the era.
Yes, that's what an old-timer garage guy here told me once as well.

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The air cleaner is an AC made in England unit - like Stanher says its probably lifted from an old Herald.
Or a Standard 10.

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Here is the illustration of the original one according to the parts catalogue
Somehow I don't recall coming across this either- I remember only the "bedpan" shaped one, which was originally on ours.

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Water pump elbow has completely worn out
Common! What's that tube attached to it? Related to the gas kit?

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Tappet cover was originally finished in black
twas so, even on Heralds here. But are you going to consider another colour for it or revert to the black?
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Or a Standard 10.
There is a secondary rectangular fitment to the top, that I haven't seen in 10s. Since it probably isn't original I may fit a conventional oil bath circular unit - less rattling!

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twas so, even on Heralds here. But are you going to consider another colour for it or revert to the black?
Of course we would retain the black colour for the tappet cover. As far as possible I'd like to keep the factory finishes to all of these aspects, not just the body colour. Wonder if the oil filter container was black or red.
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There is a secondary rectangular fitment to the top, that I haven't seen in 10s.
Ah yes, just seen it! In that case, its from an early Herald.
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May 25th 2015

The underside is now finished, with a coat of body colour applied.

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The body has now been mounted back onto the chassis to complete pending tinwork.

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Very professional and methodic restoration.
This car is going to last forever without future rust issues.
Deserves 5 stars.
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Dear Karl Sir, I have been following this thread from the beginning and must congratulate you in advance on the restoration of this Standard Gazel as I am sure the final outcome will turn out as good as when the car had rolled out of the showroom in its glory days. Your love towards vintage cars is just remarkable

Just now, i came upon this ad on olx Jaipur of a Standard Gazel so thought of sharing the pics with you and others if it could be of any help.

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Here are some brochure scans I had found many years back for what we now call the Mark I model. Like with most brochures, there are inconsistencies with some features - this car shows the later bonnet but earlier handles.
Like I said before, the artwork in most literature at the time (and even now) always shows some differences to production models. The grille seen in these scans shows a much thinner, sharper design.

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Only today while looking through some pics posted earlier did I find a match. In the past I assumed the grille on the white car was a home made one. Add another change to the list. These appear to be steel, the ones we normally see are aluminium.

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Just now, i came upon this ad on olx Jaipur of a Standard Gazel so thought of sharing the pics with you and others if it could be of any help.

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This is the first time I'm seeing that Gazel script badge on any car. The prancing Gazel profile matches the one in the brochure, probably original or accessory.

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Like I said before, the artwork in most literature at the time (and even now) always shows some differences to production models. The grille seen in these scans shows a much thinner, sharper design.

Only today while looking through some pics posted earlier did I find a match. In the past I assumed the grille on the white car was a home made one. Add another change to the list. These appear to be steel, the ones we normally see are aluminium.

This is the first time I'm seeing that Gazel script badge on any car. The prancing Gazel profile matches the one in the brochure, probably original or accessory.
The thinner chrome(?) grille seemed to be on the earliest models. I remember seeing one on a mk1 Gazel here that had come to be scrapped way back in 2000!
Then maybe a year or so later twas changed to the more common aluminum grille that continued on the mk2s.

The mk1 Gazel in Jaipur looks complete and restorable- but the price is positively off-putting!

Incidentally, I'd once seen a similar car in a similar colour (with a TN number- TMZ something) offered for sale here in Hyderabad...for 5k! Again way back in 2001!

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The car is running a matching set of very old Dunlop Gold Seal tyres (these were probably discontinued in the 80s or 90s). Its quite likely they were fitted to the car from new (Dunlops were listed in the brochure as well). Just for kicks I'm trying to date the tyres to confirm if they were the originals. I believe currently the industry uses a combination of the calendar week and year in the serial number of the tyre. It doesn't seem to be for the older tyres.

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Obviously I'm not going to use them, just curious.
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The car is running a matching set of very old Dunlop Gold Seal tyres

Obviously I'm not going to use them, just curious.
So have you procured another set for the car? Or do you plan to radialise this as well?
Unfortunately the current radials that fit 13" rims are all undersized for such cars, the Gazel particularly being heavier than the Herald!
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The car is running a matching set of very old Dunlop Gold Seal tyres (these were probably discontinued in the 80s or 90s). Its quite likely they were fitted to the car from new (Dunlops were listed in the brochure as well). Just for kicks I'm trying to date the tyres to confirm if they were the originals. I believe currently the industry uses a combination of the calendar week and year in the serial number of the tyre. It doesn't seem to be for the older tyres.
In one of the first pics you posted; the inscription reads NNV 5375.

According to the modern system; the dates on the tire are something like this:

12 13 -- This is to be read as the Twelfth week of 2013.

So; applying the same logic: 53 75 should be the 53rd week of 1975. But; an year typically has 52 weeks. And if we still try to justify the 53rd week; by claiming that 1975 was a leap year; then we must note that 1975 was not a leap year- 1976 was.

Totally random numbers; permutations and combinations in successive pictures of tires make one thing very evident - The Modern Tire Dating System does not apply here.

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Tell you what; you could try and mail Dunlop India w.r.t the tire at : feedback@dunlop.co.in

Kindly refer to the following pages: (http://www.dunlop.co.in/) and (http://www.dunlop.co.in/contact/contact.php)

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Great work Karl and congrats on rescuing another Indian classic. My aunt and uncle used to live in the HAL colony in Bangalore when I was a kid and they had a pale-medium green Standard Herald while their neighbour had a "bottle green" Gazelle. Every evening, when the neighbour would return in the Gazelle from work, I would stare at it and wonder on what a curious car it was-the front was similar to the Herald's but the back was totally different

Really like the way you've been sourcing all the genuine parts, the excellent metal work and the steps being taken to protect the car from rust. Plus the coming together of everything in a cohesive manner (unlike my restoration).

Keep going!

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Every evening, when the neighbour would return in the Gazelle from work, I would stare at it and wonder on what a curious car it was-the front was similar to the Herald's but the back was totally different
I know the feeling, I would often be quite amused on the rare occasion I saw one on the road. There were so few cars that even 20 years back one would notice one. A family friend faithfully drove one daily for decades till scrapping it for 5k in the 2000s.

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Really like the way you've been sourcing all the genuine parts, the excellent metal work and the steps being taken to protect the car from rust. Plus the coming together of everything in a cohesive manner (unlike my restoration).
I haven't done much - actually haven't even seen the car. This is Pankaj's baby, and ultimately his neck I kid, he's doing a great job.
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June 4th 2015

Tin work continues steadily.

The rear portion is now almost complete with new edges/lips created

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The portion of the bulkhead where the battery and master cylinders fit is a common corrosion point, and in this car is no exception

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The fuses are all branded 'Perfect'

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Judging by the wear on the pedal rubbers and the working speedo cable (and also the tyres) we can safely confirm the low milage of the car

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June 6th 2015

The chassis plate luckily has remained pristine. Heralds had it riveted on, this one's on screws. Strange, because it makes it that much easier to tamper with. There's no stamping in the engine bay that's visible atleast.

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Work progresses on the bulkhead

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Engine parts are starting to arrive

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The bulk head is completed, front end mock fitting in progress to check alignment

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Thanks for the thread, @karlosdeville. We had a couple of, what I thought, Standard Heralds in the neighborhood thirty years ago. They looked so elegant. Not sure what happened to them. Looking forward to the final results. I hope the Jaipur car finds a nice restorer.
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