Fiesta on Michelin Pilot Preceda PP1 - Team-BHP

theexister · 17th August 2007, 12:30

Hi TBHPians,

After running my car in wet monsoon conditions I realised my MRF ZV2K were just not upto my expectation. Though the compound was pretty hard, considering my relatively low running it didnt make much sense to worry about tyre wear. I was also told by a mechanic that the MRFs really take a toll on the brakes because they need to do more work.

So began the search for new set of tyres...

My requirements were,

- Good grip at high speed (Car felt very skittish even while cornering high radius curves at 70-80kph. From reading on this forum I attributed it to the harder MRF)
- Good wet grip. (MRFs were horrible driving through water logs)
- Tyre that lasts about 20-25k kms

Budget permitted for tyres but not alloys so decided to stick to only changing tyres.

I finalized two options,

Yokohama ES-100
Michelin Pilot Preceda ( I asked for PP2 but dealer said they were not available in 14")

I finally went ahead & purchased the Michelins (195/60 R14) to replace my stock MRF (175/65 R14) thanks to TBHP reading.

I got them at 4000/- a piece & 500/- each for the set of 4 used MRFs. I will get the spare wheel changed this weekend.

So far, after 3 days of use, the difference is night & day. I never expected this level of grip in the dry. I took the same corner I mentioned earlier at a higher speed of 90 kph & the stability was amazing.

The ride comfort is actually better even though I reduced the profile to 60. I guess this is due to the softer compound.

Road noise is much improved on smooth surface but on rough surfaces I find very little reduction.

I am filling it to 30PSI as recommend at the dealer. Any suggestions in this regard would be great.

I finally got a digicam. I shall post pics this weekend.

razor4077 · 17th August 2007, 12:38

Good choice of tyres... congrats! I have PP2 on my car, and am very happy with it. You got a very good price too!

kutlee · 17th August 2007, 13:05

Great. The quote i got was 4100/- Where did you get this from?
I am also looking out for 14" Lenso which is going to be released in Blore this month end. But no news in Hyd..

shazikon · 17th August 2007, 13:24

But is 195/60 the right size ? 185/60 would have been ideal

akroy · 17th August 2007, 16:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by theexister

I took the same corner I mentioned earlier at a higher speed of 90 kph & the stability was amazing.Road noise is much improved on smooth surface but on rough surfaces I find very little reduction.

Right choice ! Michelin has some amazing grip and has really amazing cornering ability which I felt it hands on in my car

Abhi

rjstyles69 · 17th August 2007, 17:21

Now congrats on buying your digicam.

No excuses for not posting pics of the new tyres. Congrats for new tyres on hold as of now.

theexister · 17th August 2007, 17:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by kutlee

Great. The quote i got was 4100/- Where did you get this from?
I am also looking out for 14" Lenso which is going to be released in Blore this month end. But no news in Hyd..

I was quoted 4150/- from Ashoka Wheels. Later went with a friend who knows him to get it reduced.

I was more surprised that he gave me something on the 3500kms used MRF. I was expecting nothing. Now Im going to bargain with the unused spare for the its replacement.

theexister · 17th August 2007, 17:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by shazikon

But is 195/60 the right size ? 185/60 would have been ideal

I dint find much of a price difference between the 185 & 195. Plus I have to
accept the car looks better with the 195.

There is only a 1.1% speedo error which was minimal.

sreenivass · 18th August 2007, 12:07

theexister I maybe one of the prospective buyers. I need to replace abdly punctures S322 stock by full size spare. I want to have the replacement new tire to be cheap since I want to go for tubeless and michelins next year or So. I am assuming it is ok to have a spare with different pattern and brand as spare. Is your stock 175/65R14 ?

Can you also give the details of Ashoka and other dealers and prices they quoted for 185/65 and 195/60 for Michelin and Yoko ES-100 ?

theexister · 19th August 2007, 13:55

Pics of the tyre on my Fiesta

PatienceWins · 19th August 2007, 15:40

I am currently having stock Good Year 175/65 R14. I want to change it to tubeless? what do you guys recommend?

akshay1234 · 19th August 2007, 15:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatienceWins

I am currently having stock Good Year 175/65 R14. I want to change it to tubeless? what do you guys recommend?

it depends whether you want performance or comfort. you can get 185 or 195/60 r14. for an all round tyre i suggest michelin xm1 or bridgestone turanza er60. and for performance bridgestone potenza g3 or yokohama es100.

esteem_lover · 20th August 2007, 11:15

Congrats on the new tyres. Michelin PPs are great tyres.
Your car begs for alloys.

Amey · 20th August 2007, 11:20

Congrats on the new tires !
I used the PP1 on the skoda 3 years back.That time PP2 wasnt there. Excellent grip even on PP1.

Enjoy driving ! Good choice

theexister · 21st August 2007, 10:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by esteem_lover

Congrats on the new tyres. Michelin PPs are great tyres.
Your car begs for alloys.

My savings account is begging me for money too plus my credit card

I will change over in another 6 months but then I would prefer to upsize it to 15" but then I have to change the tyres again.
If all goes per plan I shall keep these sets for a TBHP track day.

17th August 2007, 12:30	#1 (permalink)
theexister BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad...now moved to Bangalore Posts: 146 View My Garage	Fiesta on Michelin Pilot Preceda PP1 Hi TBHPians, After running my car in wet monsoon conditions I realised my MRF ZV2K were just not upto my expectation. Though the compound was pretty hard, considering my relatively low running it didnt make much sense to worry about tyre wear. I was also told by a mechanic that the MRFs really take a toll on the brakes because they need to do more work. So began the search for new set of tyres... My requirements were, - Good grip at high speed (Car felt very skittish even while cornering high radius curves at 70-80kph. From reading on this forum I attributed it to the harder MRF) - Good wet grip. (MRFs were horrible driving through water logs) - Tyre that lasts about 20-25k kms Budget permitted for tyres but not alloys so decided to stick to only changing tyres. I finalized two options, Yokohama ES-100 Michelin Pilot Preceda ( I asked for PP2 but dealer said they were not available in 14") I finally went ahead & purchased the Michelins (195/60 R14) to replace my stock MRF (175/65 R14) thanks to TBHP reading. I got them at 4000/- a piece & 500/- each for the set of 4 used MRFs. I will get the spare wheel changed this weekend. So far, after 3 days of use, the difference is night & day. I never expected this level of grip in the dry. I took the same corner I mentioned earlier at a higher speed of 90 kph & the stability was amazing. The ride comfort is actually better even though I reduced the profile to 60. I guess this is due to the softer compound. Road noise is much improved on smooth surface but on rough surfaces I find very little reduction. I am filling it to 30PSI as recommend at the dealer. Any suggestions in this regard would be great. I finally got a digicam. I shall post pics this weekend.

17th August 2007, 13:24	#4 (permalink)
shazikon BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 300 View My Garage	But is 195/60 the right size ? 185/60 would have been ideal __________________ Cheers, shaz

17th August 2007, 17:21	#6 (permalink)
rjstyles69 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bengalooru.. Posts: 1,694 View My Garage	Now congrats on buying your digicam. No excuses for not posting pics of the new tyres. Congrats for new tyres on hold as of now. __________________ Cheers rjstyles You never really learn to SWEAR until you learn to DRIVE.

18th August 2007, 12:07	#9 (permalink)
sreenivass BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Hyderabad, India Posts: 765 View My Garage	theexister I maybe one of the prospective buyers. I need to replace abdly punctures S322 stock by full size spare. I want to have the replacement new tire to be cheap since I want to go for tubeless and michelins next year or So. I am assuming it is ok to have a spare with different pattern and brand as spare. Is your stock 175/65R14 ? Can you also give the details of Ashoka and other dealers and prices they quoted for 185/65 and 195/60 for Michelin and Yoko ES-100 ? __________________ I have one dream, Fiat with great A.S.S. Last edited by sreenivass : 18th August 2007 at 12:09.

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17th August 2007, 12:38	#2 (permalink)
razor4077 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kolkata Posts: 1,161 View My Garage	Good choice of tyres... congrats! I have PP2 on my car, and am very happy with it. You got a very good price too!

17th August 2007, 13:05	#3 (permalink)
kutlee BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 344 View My Garage	Great. The quote i got was 4100/- Where did you get this from? I am also looking out for 14" Lenso which is going to be released in Blore this month end. But no news in Hyd..

19th August 2007, 13:55	#10 (permalink)
theexister BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad...now moved to Bangalore Posts: 146 View My Garage	Pics of the tyre on my Fiesta

19th August 2007, 15:40	#11 (permalink)
PatienceWins BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 934 View My Garage	I am currently having stock Good Year 175/65 R14. I want to change it to tubeless? what do you guys recommend?

20th August 2007, 11:20	#14 (permalink)
Amey BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 237 View My Garage	Congrats on the new tires ! I used the PP1 on the skoda 3 years back.That time PP2 wasnt there. Excellent grip even on PP1. Enjoy driving ! Good choice