New 4X4 project

svsantosh · 24th July 2012, 15:51

In the pics ^ - I see the prop shaft will come above/over the cross member on its way to the rear diff, how is the OE setup in a safari? below? And did you have to reengineer the engine mounts?

jyobeb · 25th July 2012, 09:29

Yes Santosh, the prop shaft will come over the cross bar. Should check to see what the setup is on the Safari. This R151 gearbox is almost 12" longer than the safari gearbox. the mounts have to be re-engineered and I will be using OE engine beds.
A few more pics of the engine after the crankcase wing was chopped off.

jyobeb · 3rd August 2012, 09:51

The engine gearbox combo has been fixed into place with new beds and gearbox crossbar.

The turbo manifold is being modified for fitting the Toyota CT26 turbo that comes OE on the 14BT engine.

The engine has been opened up to avoid any disappointments after the vehicle build is completed. Looks like I need a new set of liners and pistons.

thumpingheart · 3rd August 2012, 10:14

This is an awesome project Jyobeb!! Most of the other people are knowledgeable and offering advice. I'm just a keen observer! Really facinated with your project and work!

Kudos

Can't wait to see the rest of the process and of course the finished product!

Best of luck!

jyobeb · 4th August 2012, 08:57

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Originally Posted by thumpingheart

Really facinated with your project and work!
Kudos

Can't wait to see the rest of the process and of course the finished product!
Best of luck!

Thanks man! A long way to go though!

jyobeb · 5th August 2012, 19:07

Some pictures of the modified manifold to fit a turbo. I am using a CT26 turbo which is huge!!!
Some pictures of my engine which is being taken apart. I am planning on modifying my timing case cover to use a gear driven power steering pump like in the Innova.

jyobeb · 5th August 2012, 19:22

The pump I plan to use. (Pic for reference only)

jyobeb · 7th August 2012, 22:36

More pics of the engine being stripped.
Pictures of WIP for 160 pcd to 139.7 pcd converter spacer.

svsantosh · 8th August 2012, 08:26

planning for a 16" military rim eh? going down to 139?

jyobeb · 8th August 2012, 09:36

No army rims. The only 10J rims I could get were 139.7 pcd.
I needed 10J rims to suit my 35x12.5/15 tyres!!!

jyobeb · 9th August 2012, 17:36

The tyres and wheels that I intend to mount.
Wheels are 15" 10J negative offset and tyres are MAXXIS 35x12.5x15 Trepadors.

Blue Thunder · 9th August 2012, 19:06

Beautiful alloys and chunky/proportionate tyres!
Congrats!

I am guessing that the mounting of the tyres would have been quite a task...hope it was done without damaging the alloys.

Sudarshan · 9th August 2012, 19:09

I can see the chassis is box/tube section & its welded in places ( for renewed mountings/ cross-members etc )
So how do you intend to treat those areas near welds for the Purpose of rust proofing ? ( I mean from Inside of the box )

Have you thought about galvanizing etc ?

Sudarshan

jyobeb · 10th August 2012, 09:44

@B-T, Yup, fitting those tyres were quite an ordeal, but Samy tyres here, are experts.
@Sudarshan. You have an eye for details don't you! Welding near the front end has been treated for rust proofing by spraying in the rust proof chemical under pressure. I am not quite sure how to handle the welding done in the middle. (for fitting the crossbar)
By the way, the Safari chassis ia a CinC section.

Tejas@perioimpl · 10th August 2012, 10:55

What axles are you running?

Any plan to strengthen the axles to run the 35 inchers?

24th July 2012, 15:51	#106
svsantosh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dubai Posts: 4,006 Thanked: 6,349 Times View My Garage	Re: New 4X4 project In the pics ^ - I see the prop shaft will come above/over the cross member on its way to the rear diff, how is the OE setup in a safari? below? And did you have to reengineer the engine mounts?
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25th July 2012, 09:29	#107
jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 704 Times	Re: New 4X4 project Yes Santosh, the prop shaft will come over the cross bar. Should check to see what the setup is on the Safari. This R151 gearbox is almost 12" longer than the safari gearbox. the mounts have to be re-engineered and I will be using OE engine beds. A few more pics of the engine after the crankcase wing was chopped off. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by jyobeb : 25th July 2012 at 09:31.
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3rd August 2012, 09:51	#108
jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 704 Times	Re: New 4X4 project The engine gearbox combo has been fixed into place with new beds and gearbox crossbar. The turbo manifold is being modified for fitting the Toyota CT26 turbo that comes OE on the 14BT engine. The engine has been opened up to avoid any disappointments after the vehicle build is completed. Looks like I need a new set of liners and pistons. Attached Thumbnails
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3rd August 2012, 10:14	#109
thumpingheart BHPian Join Date: May 2012 Location: Pune Posts: 329 Thanked: 188 Times	Re: New 4X4 project This is an awesome project Jyobeb!! Most of the other people are knowledgeable and offering advice. I'm just a keen observer! Really facinated with your project and work! Kudos Can't wait to see the rest of the process and of course the finished product! Best of luck!
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5th August 2012, 19:07	#111
jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 704 Times	Re: New 4X4 project Some pictures of the modified manifold to fit a turbo. I am using a CT26 turbo which is huge!!! Some pictures of my engine which is being taken apart. I am planning on modifying my timing case cover to use a gear driven power steering pump like in the Innova. Attached Thumbnails
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5th August 2012, 19:22	#112
jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 704 Times	Re: New 4X4 project The pump I plan to use. (Pic for reference only) Attached Thumbnails Last edited by jyobeb : 5th August 2012 at 19:26.
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7th August 2012, 22:36	#113
jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 704 Times	Re: New 4X4 project More pics of the engine being stripped. Pictures of WIP for 160 pcd to 139.7 pcd converter spacer. Attached Thumbnails
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8th August 2012, 08:26	#114
svsantosh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dubai Posts: 4,006 Thanked: 6,349 Times View My Garage	Re: New 4X4 project planning for a 16" military rim eh? going down to 139?
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8th August 2012, 09:36	#115
jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 704 Times	Re: New 4X4 project No army rims. The only 10J rims I could get were 139.7 pcd. I needed 10J rims to suit my 35x12.5/15 tyres!!!
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9th August 2012, 17:36	#116
jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 704 Times	Re: New 4X4 project The tyres and wheels that I intend to mount. Wheels are 15" 10J negative offset and tyres are MAXXIS 35x12.5x15 Trepadors. Attached Thumbnails
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9th August 2012, 19:06	#117
Blue Thunder Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Right here . Posts: 1,657 Thanked: 386 Times View My Garage	Re: New 4X4 project Beautiful alloys and chunky/proportionate tyres! Congrats! I am guessing that the mounting of the tyres would have been quite a task...hope it was done without damaging the alloys.
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9th August 2012, 19:09	#118
Sudarshan BANNED Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pune Posts: 1,200 Thanked: 880 Times View My Garage	Re: New 4X4 project I can see the chassis is box/tube section & its welded in places ( for renewed mountings/ cross-members etc ) So how do you intend to treat those areas near welds for the Purpose of rust proofing ? ( I mean from Inside of the box ) Have you thought about galvanizing etc ? Sudarshan Last edited by Sudarshan : 9th August 2012 at 19:21.
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10th August 2012, 09:44	#119
jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 704 Times	Re: New 4X4 project @B-T, Yup, fitting those tyres were quite an ordeal, but Samy tyres here, are experts. @Sudarshan. You have an eye for details don't you! Welding near the front end has been treated for rust proofing by spraying in the rust proof chemical under pressure. I am not quite sure how to handle the welding done in the middle. (for fitting the crossbar) By the way, the Safari chassis ia a CinC section.
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10th August 2012, 10:55	#120
Tejas@perioimpl Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bombay Posts: 4,423 Thanked: 9,582 Times View My Garage	Re: New 4X4 project What axles are you running? Any plan to strengthen the axles to run the 35 inchers?
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